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Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

alliances had been forged and broken throughout history what makes you think this one is special or that it will last?

Because this time it's different, Europe is different. It has changed irreversible because of the experiences of the last centuries.

Do you think the USA would accept a solitary attack on...say...Montana and left the state out all alone to fend for itself?
No, of course not. Who would attack Montana would also attack the whole of the UNITED STATES.

And that is what Europe is becoming too, a federation of UNITED STATES...we are well on the way!
Deeply interlocked and integrated with each other. So when some idiot would try to mess with one state he would attack automatically all the others too (and would get answered accordingly)!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

You called that explanation? Why do you think I made fun of it, if **** hits the fan all bets are off.

Well...why and how do you think the EU developed in the first place?
Mainly to interlock the former archenemies of Europe in a way economically first, then militarily, that they would would lose any interest to fight each other again...and it worked great, didn't it!

This progress didn't stop there and changed the face of Europe irreversible for decades now, with the new members going now through the same moves.

And before you can't proof a suspicious dark mustache under Mrs. Merkels nose I would ask you to refrain from such empty, idiotic phrases like "history likes to repeat itself!", thank you!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

And why all of a sudden are Germany Poland's best friend and England the b*tch...Answers on a post card please :D

Should the Russians really becoming suicidal over night then WE, the Germans, are Polands neighbours and GB is still an island far away...;)

In part yes but now Russia is slowly becoming the devil

I just won't believe that! (But I will observe)
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

Western Europe has a long and proud tradition of being blind and stupid when it comes to Russia so if the West decided they can ditch Poland without loss of profit they just might.

Well...WWII, EU, end of the Cold war, EU- and NATO enlargement put an end to that thinking and diplomacy.

We in the EU and in the european NATO (I'm against non-european adventures ala Iraq and Afghanistan) are already interlocked with each other economically and even militarily in a way that it will be to difficult for any possible enemy to break us up into several countries again.

Meaning if one attacks Poland he attacks Germany, he attacks France etc.!

And that is just now...but the process of becoming interlocked with each other progresses from year to year! European integration.
The same process which makes inter-european wars more and more impossible makes it also impossible for any future would be enemy to take us on alone, cut off from the EU flock...it's all or nobody!

This situation is fundamentally different from 1914 or 1939!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

As for the nuclear threats, well - as I said, looks like it's time to "join the club"

I can see it before my eyes...All countries around Germany are safely tucked under their nuclear umbrellas but only little, poor Germany is left out shivering alone in the cold world of conventional weapons!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

Wrong, originally NATO was about defending the West, Russia was preparing to invade and take over all of Europe and thats what NATO was about, if Russian goals would be transparent enough and included subjugating only Poland

"...subjugating only Poland" and then what? Another russian empire along the lines of the cold war?
Been there done that, no thanks!

Face it man! Should Poland be attacked from the East you better be prepared to get supported by all other NATO members, if you want to or not, so! ;)
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

Germany on the other hand might prefer the fighting to be happening in Poland rather then in their own backyard so they might actually send some very substantial help but that also depends on whether Russia breaks their trading ties with Europe or not and what the Russian goals would be.

Get real Sokrates!

Any future war in Europe will NOT be able to be contained on a special place. We would be all in this together and alone thinking that we will conduct trade whereas enemy troops are parading a few kilometers away is so wrong....

Okay...afterwards Europe might be a radioactive desert but then we will not be alive anymore to suffer through that on the other had.
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / If Poland is attacked by Russia will N.A.T.O help defend Poland or not? [171]

My opinion is Poland will be left alone as no one will help as Russia has nukes and by U.S standards are who has nukes it belongs to untouchable club.

Well, the French and GB has nukes too...not to mention the US.

The question would be why should Moscow attack the mightiest military club (with nukes) on this earth.

Do you think they are suicidal?
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

That's what I meant too...
I'm not discussing military manouvres as every nation does and needs them but what the Telegraph told is another story...much more agressive and threatening...a NATO member no less.

I wonder why it didn't made the headlines of other papers already...if this is true!
Bratwurst Boy   
2 Nov 2009
News / Poland is the most friendly neighbor of Ukraine and Russia - Ukrainian poll ... [132]

Just reading the newspaper today that claims that Russia carried out a simulated tactical invasion of Poland recently which included the use of field based nuclear weapons. Doesn't sound too neighbourly to me!

That's crass...if it were true! Is this true??? What are the polish papers writing about it???
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

Well...it isn't only a Russian-German project and I too think Desertec is much better and we should invest everything there.

What else?

desertec.org/en/concept/summary/?gclid=CLehlITL6p0CFQWTzAodbl7ZMQ

Within 6 hours deserts receive more energy from the sun than humankind consumes within a year.

desertec.org/fileadmin/downloads/media/DESERTEC_RedPaper_2nd_en.pdf
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

Well, Germany supported the enlargement and the membership of those new members and in big parts invests heavily in the rebuilding and the future there.

That is alot of solidarity, don't you think? You get more from whom exactly?

I would really wish some of you would exchange stupid baseless and empty phrases with real examples when something is buggering them!

And the rest of the EU better prays Germanys economy is further holding up and kept running...or WE might some time knock on YOUR doors and ask for help!
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

That's the ultimate answer to BB's question about the alternative to German
co-operation with Russia - stronger and more united EU.

Well...you got me wrong. Where I am of the position that business is better than war concerning Russia the "alternative" was about the leadership of the EU (as Borrka meant that Germany is losing it), I asked about alternatives...

He was open to compromise, BB. Germany, however, didn't want that and told Tudjman as much.

Proof?
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

...NOW - that looks awesome! (and we have bigger population than Russia now :-)).

Agreed...that's it! :)

A Catholic monarchy, your wet dream :)

Can't they be pagan??? Pretty pretty please???

Satellite, colonisation, call it what you will as I'm not into labels. It had the distinct appearance of a satellite as you sought to control their actions and played on their sympathies and old ties with Ustashe fascists. They were the residuals from Nazism, people like Ante Pavlic. Go and Google Hermann Neubacker

What crap! Are you drunk???
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

With the attempts to create an independent Croatia as a German satellite,

Explain!
You are quite quick with using such loaded words like "satellite"..may I call Poland an US "satellite" too?

Is Scotland an English "satellite"?
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

...maybe we should switch to monarchy and simply call it the United Kingdom
of Germany and Poland? (damnit, I did it again! I meant United Kingdom of
Germany, Poland and Sorbia :D).

Ja okay...but you know the tendency of some tabloid to shorten everything...we need really something more catchy!

And what monarchy? German king and polish princess? Or polish King and german princess???
Must be some mix...

(Of course the pair will be determined through a beauty pageant)
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

In the best scenario the Empire would be called Empire of German nation and eastern lands.

What the hell is wrong with: "Germol" or "Polerm"??? "Germanolonia"????

....better not! We might get called "lonis" by our enemies...not good...
Bratwurst Boy   
1 Nov 2009
News / Slavic linguistic union inside of EU; Polish language official [95]

We can call it - the Empire of German and Polish Nations (oh, sorry - I forgot, it should be - the Empire of German, Polish and Sorbian Nations :-)).

But we need a much shorter, more catchier name! Right now it would be called: EGPSN...not good...we need more vowels!