Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Sedzia re: 'Do you also hate russians? They have caused poland even more pain [than the krauts - P.]'

They deserve each other. The Russkies are causing us pain also now - re: the unreasonable ban on Polish meat products for which the (pro-Russki ) hacks in Europe have been blaming us, in spite of the fact that EU experts haven't found anything wrong with our meat; the German-Russki Baltic oil pipe; the rage at our willingness to have the Yank state of the art defense system on our territory.

But these non-Polish guys on this forum, such as daffy, hm, don't seem to want to understand our position between the Russkies and Krauts. It's because if they tried to really understand it, empathise with us, then it would ruin their cozy, self-satisfied view of the world, particularly Europe. They are happy, so why the hell should they care about the Poles and the Polish worries, especially when the press in their countries points at the Poles as those who should be blamed for the tension between Muscovia and EU? Right, daffy? :)

Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Daffy, not YOU!!! Besides, you are Irish, ain't ya? - Witek has had words with some idiot in another thread. Boy oh boy, what a world! :) :)

Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Forgot to mention English apple pies - heavenly! And English breakfast - those fried sausages, bacon, tomato, beans, eggs... And English Tea. Screw any other food !:)

Hm, why don't you guys rephrase the question. Why don't put it as follows:

Do the Germans like or dislike the Poles, and why?

What do you think?
:)

Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Bubba, Polish herbs 'dodgy,' 'dodgy'?! PROVE!!!:)

Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Daffy, has any one here said he didn't like all Gerries and Muscovites? Conversely, talk to those two nations and ask them what they feel towards us, Poles. By the way, I sort of like Russki literature, even though it's often Polonophobic hate propaganda (except late Tolstoy). It's far superior to German literature - yes, far superior (but not to English one). Their greatest perhaps scribbler - whose Anglicized last name is 'Dostoyevsky' - was of Polish origin (Dostojewski), but a naughty-naughty Polonophobe. Which is not that strange. For instance, Joyce has scribbled (in A Portrait of the Artist) one of the worst anti-Irish slurs I've ever read (nad I've read a lot, e.g. in Milton).

What green s..t would that be? I'm afraid I'm out of touch here :(

Polonia / Germans: Do Poles like them or dislike them? [217]

Parsley! You don't like parsley, Bubba? How about sage, rosemary and thyme? :)

Life / Are there any Polish buddhists? [43]

Bruno, so you've sent everybody 'the eastern path' Would this mean you've sent moi, Puzzler, there just as well? If so, then exactly how? Do you suggest that your sending everybody 'the eastern path' has caused that 'nobody is talking anymore'? If yes, would you explain what you mean? Hm, and do you, bruno, practice a lot?

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

'Potato is pasion of poland' (sic) ? can you prove it? :) PS. I don't like Indian tea. I like English tea.

T troll 'siema' (in Polish: how's goin'): Is Ciemnogrod your hometown? :)

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Oops, so 'English tea' isn't actually English, e.g. English breakfast tea? Why do you call it English then? Lying?! :)

Boob, maybe yer from Britain, but you seem to me a little tiny degenerate. alas, there are also such in Britain. :( :)

Titty-Boobie, so you're laughing at me because I like English tea? And you're English?! Is English tea that bad?! If I remember right you did some saliva-drippin' at the mere mention of it. Did you just pretend, Boobber? :( :)

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Daffy, I admire your profound knowledge. Ah, what a grand expert you are on where tea cometh from. Great thanks, Daff, for enlightening me in this respect. Without you, I would have trudged in the dark till the day of doom and longer. I'm now so :) :) :) ! Hare Krishna, hare, hare! Oi, what a bliss! :)

Meow, Palekatkin. Yes, you can get tumeric powder in Poland. Try e.g. Carrefour (hope the spelling is correct).

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Miernada, my question if English tea is that bad was rhetorical (know what the word means?). Boobie seems to have suggested he's English, hence my shock at his laughing at somebody who admits he likes English tea best. The more so because he seemed to indicate he liked not only English tea but also English food (for me, a Pole, one of the best foods I've ever had).

My suspicion is that even if he indeed were born English, he may be a degenerate amongst his (great) countrymen.

I love English tea. The English have been the greatest masters in preparing tea mixes. Nobody will ever take this from them.

Just as nobody will ever make as great perfumes and sweets as they make.

Prove that the English learned making those tea mixes from the Indians. If as you say they did learn it, why can't I hit upon an Indian tea that would be even half as excellent as any English tey? You're indeed a thoughtless rustic wench from canofbeerada.:)

Palekatkin, yup, it may be a good idea to purchase it in England; it may cost you less than in Poland. But if you're going take a 'big bag' on the plane, I hope it's not Ryanair (the $hittiest airline on earth). Those bastards allow you to carry over only up to 15 kg (roughly 30 lb.) of luggage, and even if the weight is right may still demand that you throw away some stuff. Have a nice trip with lots of 'tumeric' to sniff on. :)

Boobski, you're so crude! Who gives damn about your bodily fragrances? Yuch, what a degenerate!!! I think I'm gonna puke!!! God!!! :)

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Boobeck, can you prove I'm actually all those things you claim I am? Can you give even one single piece of evidence?

So far you've used mostly smilies and name-calling to comment on my postings.

It's a fact, as well as it's a fact that you're crude.

Who's the real dimwit here?
:)

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Hm, is there a Polish city called 'Gdnysk'? Where did you get the name from, rauhdplaraw? :)

Law / Want to start Indian cafe in Poland.. [71]

Rahuldpawar, ah, Gdansk. Yes, you could make good money there with your Indian teahouse. It's a busy tourist spot. Good luck - powodzenia! :) PS. Maybe you don't know it, but one of our greatest Polish political scientists is from India - Mr. Peter Raina. A genius. Cheers.

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Giles writes: 'But I doubt it [Poland - P.] will have the old colonial immigration that the Uk or other Western states have, because it doesn't have the historical precedents.'

You're wrong, giles. Poland has an ancient 'multicultural' tradition of this kind. The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwelath, which was finally destroyed by Russiansd and Germans in the 18 th century, included a thousand and one nations: Poles, Germans, Ruthenians, Jews, Armenians, Tatars, French, Dutch, Scots, etc. There were some English too, e.g. the sect of the Arians (called in Polish 'Bracia Polscy,' the Polish Brothers).

You don't know Polish history too well, do you?

Read e.g. Norman Davies. 'God's Playground. A History of Poland.' Columbia University Press, 1982. It's a little perfunctory stuff, but full of essential facts, and extremely well-written.

Cheers.
:)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Frank, I wonder where did you take all the lowdown on Polish history from?

From some Prussian, Nazi, chauvinist Muscovite, or Zionist propaganda? :)

But let's analyse your posting bit by bit.

Re: 'Polish history.......is quite frankly a bit of a nightmare.' - Why exactly 'a nightmare'? What if it has only been presented as 'a nightmare' by Polonophobic pseudo-historians and propagandists?

Re: 'most it appears...to be self inflicted, from its grandeur of the 1500/1600s to a relatively poor, politically inept country of modern times.' - Do you mean that the historical calamities that befell Poland in the past were largely the work of Poles themselves? If so, give evidence it was the case. What if in reality it was Poland's aggressive neighbours, Russians and Germans, who, in cahouts with each other, invaded and partitioned the Polish state, and made sure it could not become strong again? And what if their 'historians' then vilified the defeated Poland, and historians from other countries, such as, maybe, yours, Frank, consciously or not, repeated those slurs? Aren't you blaming the victim and whitewashing the bully, Frank?

Re: 'It continually made poor decisions, bad judgements and ended up either on the wrong side or backed losers in recent centuries.' - Any facts to back these claims? For instance, what 'losers' did Poland allegedly back in the last century? Would you mean the British and Americans? If so, why would they be 'losers'? After all, they won both world wars, and Americans became the strongest (although not the greatest) power on earth, having taking advantage of the temporary weakness of the great British Empire. So, Frank?

Re: 'it appears to have learn nothing at all, judging by recent pronouncements' - Any facts to back this? What exactly was Poland supposed to have learned that, according to you, she hasn't? What specific 'recent pronouncements' do you base your judgement on? Do you have anything against the present Polish government, Frank? If yes, then what exactly would that be?

Re: 'and its government will continue in this vein for the forseeable future' - What exactlly 'vein' will the Polish government 'continue' in in the 'forseeable future,' Frank? And how do you know it will? Are you some kind of fortune teller? :)

Re: 'Poland is only relatively homogenous, not by choice but as result of the most horrendous war in history......no other reason.' - And what do you mean by that? Do you mean that we don't have so-called 'minorities'? If so, you'd mean untruth, because we have them in abundance: Germans, Vietnamese, Ukrainians (very impudent and aggressive), Belorussians, Lithuanians, scores of Jews (yes, Jews), Tatars, Russians, Armenians (the best of them all), Kashubs, Silesians....

These are facts, Frank.

But I wouldn't call so the data on which you have based your opinions on Poland.

Wanna prove me wrong? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Frank, first of all, where did you take all the data from? Can you give specific sources? What is your nationality? Is that what they teach you in your country about Polish history?

So do you assert that Poland first supplied Napoleon with troops, and in revenge Russia and Germany invaded Poland? Do you say it was right that my country was invaded by Russians and Germans?

So you say that Hitler wrecked Poland for her harbouring the Jews?

What do you mean that Poland was 'expansionist'? Give the facts. How could she be expansionist if she was partitioned by the Russian- German expansion? Do you suggest that Poland did some 'wrong' to Germans and Russians? What wrong exactly?

What do you mean by Polish insistence on 'great reparations'? What 'short-term gain'? What 'misjudgement'?

And where did you take it from about our nobility undermining our 'rulers' (we actually had kings)?

What do you mean that the 'last 60 years don't seem like a nightmare'? What are you excusing for?

Re: 'History has and will repeat itself.....' - Do you mean that Russians and Germans will again partition us? And do you also mean that, for example, the English will again inflict the potato famine on the Irish? Oops, sorry, according to your reasoning, I should've said: the Irish will inflict the potato famine on themselves? Is that what you mean, Frankie? :)

Re: 'My argument is factual' - What do you mean by that? You've given some facts, but interpreted them in an extremely Polonophobic manner, haven't you?

Re: 'Yes..........you just want to bury your head in the sand........not a nice place to be....' - That's a metaphor. Can you explain clearly what you mean in this sentence?

Re: 'Wake up and smell the coffee.....' - And what do you exactly mean in this one? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Well, Frank, you've actually been slagging off my country, and in an extremely crude manner too. What country are you from? What is your nationality? Do they teach all the $hit in your schools? I wonder how would you feel if i started babbling about your own country in the same manner as you about mine? You're using big negative words, with great impudence too: 'isolationism, distrust of foreigners.' Give examples of our alleged 'isolationism' and 'distrust of foreigners.' Able to do that? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

What do you mean by 'the original sentiment that Poland doesnt want or need foreigners buying "Polish" land'? And why did you put the word 'Polish' in quotation marks? Do you suggest that Polish land isn't really Polish? Who the devil are you Frank? What country gives life to the likes of you? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Frank, well, my questions are in reply to the numerous claims you've made. When you made claims expect reactions to them. Got to be responsible for what you say. Don't answer, if you don't want to. Think over what I've signalled. By the way, I think I know what country you're from. And I can tell you we Poles have lots of understanding and empathy towards your country's history. We don't have such an arrogant and insensitive outlook as you've got towards us. I wonder why we are so, and you are the way you are? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Hm, so some troll's scribbling you Frankie take for an expression of an allegedly prevalent Polish attitude? Think Frank! :) And learn some more about the Polish history. Read Norman Davies' 'God's Playground,' 'A Heart of Europe,' 'Europe,' 'Rising 44.' And don't scribble till you know for sure. :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Did I do any name-calling in our exchange, Frank? Give the names. :) Ah, so facts speak for themselves? Which facts? Are you sure you've given all of them? Or just a few conveniently chosen (and interpreted) ones? Ah, so questions don't speak for themselves? They surely don't; it's you who ought to. Are you able to? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Re: 'Pity you have to blame a fellow Pole Puzzler...lol'

- Have I blamed 'ola' about anything? What? Or rather you've been doing it?

Hm, the more I talk to you, the more convinced I become that you may be a prejudiced Polonophobic idiot.

Do you hang around on this forum to belittle the Poles and thus lift your own low national self-esteem? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Fiszek, I have. It's one who likes things Polish. Do those who call Davies 'Polonophile' suggest that his view of Polish history is positively prejudiced? Do they give any facts to back the claim? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Frank, are you a German living in Ireland? Why are you so scared to give the name of your nationality? :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Fiszek, well, some of Davies's 'colleagues' prefer the hateful, ignorant, anti-factual, 'nightmarish' vision of Polish history that Frank has expounded here. Davies was punished by his positive version of Polish history - the Zionist crazies has prevented him from obtaining a teaching post at Princeton. He speaks about it in an interview with a Polish periodical. I can try to get the interview and translate it. Cheers. :)

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Re: 'So 50000 Poles werent in napoleons army...remember how long the motherlands memory is Puzzler...how about for ever' - So what does this fact signify that allegedly 50000 Poles were in Napoleon's army? Why were they there? What do you mean by: 'how long the the motherlands memory is'? Do you mean that the russkies will remember for ever that Poles were in the Napoleon's army? And what was first - the partitions of Poland by the russkies, or Poles going into Napoleon's army? So you say Poles shouldn't have gone into Napoleon's army? Why not?

Re: 'A weak Poland was in the interests of Germany/Russia......fact' - Do you justify the Russian and German invasions of my country? If so, do you also justify the English invasions of Ireland?

Re: 'Giving someone like Hitler a reason to destroy your country wasn't exactly great......even though inadvertant' - What reason would that be?

Re: 'Poland never invaded/displaced another European country/population?' - did she? Give the facts.

Re: 'None of the above events occurred ??....which is what you are saying!!!!' - What specific events do you mean ? Where did I say that none of the events occured? Give quotes.

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Frank, you're 'afraid of debate' because you're not sufficiently knowledgeable and strong enough intellectually to carry it on. If you were strong enough, you wouldn't be afraid to talk with me. Proof that you're ignorant and weak intellectually: you make claims but can't prove them, can't give sources, can't answer simple questions. You speak like an old-date German or Germanophile brought up on Hitlerite and neo-Hitlerite propaganda. Well, I'll reserve the right to comment on your postings, and hope you won't flee from this board because of fear of debate (SIC!), or fear of expressing your views. I don't have anything against your expressing them freely. Good night, Frank. Thanks for the exchange.

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Oops, Frank.
Re: 'before I bothered replying to your endless denials and attempt to deflect any blame from poland for anything ever.' - Give proof of my alleged 'endless denials' and attempts to 'deflect any blame from Poland for anything ever.' What actually have I denied, what specific 'blame' have I allegedly deflected?

Real Estate / Foreigners: Please don't buy Polish Land! [823]

Daffy, defending your fellow neo-Nazi countryman? :)

Wow, so my questions are 'irrelevant,' Frank? Prove that even one of them is so. Evading to answer them because unable to do it? :)