Life / Where to get a cup of coffee in Warsaw? [40]

No point in arguing. Smockers and non-smockers will NEVER agree. The truth is both sides are right. But going as far as banning smocking in ALL closed areas is NOT fair in my humble opinion. If somebody wants to invest his money in a coffeteria for smockers ONLY, then why not? Just put a big sign at the door that there is smocking inside and IF a non-smocker chooses to go inside thet are welcomed but don't start crying about the smock if he does go inside.

Life / Where to get a cup of coffee in Warsaw? [40]

I know about second-hand smocking, i wasen't always a smocker. I really do understand you non-smockers, but it is not true that on trains there are smocking vagons, at least on the one i was for more then 12 hours there waren't any.


I'm not talking about restaurants, i agree that nobody should smocke in places where you can eat, but coffeterias should not be included in this.I'm not saying that it should be all coffeterias for smockers only, make some law so the owners should put up big freackin billboard by the entrance "Smockers inside" or something so if a non-smocker do chooses to go inside, then accept the fact that people are smocking there and go somewhere else. If i'm going swiming, you don't see me bitchin that i'm wet are you?


Believe me i'm not arguing with that, i know Romania is corrupt, but that has nothing to do with what i was saying. The economy of Romania and Poland are not THAT far apart and living conditions are about the same but in Poland some of the prices are just crazy. Take for instance internet, in Romania i pay for the exact same internet connection from UPC as in Poland but in Romania is only ~35zl for the medium contract(the 10Mb connection) and in Poland that costs ~90-100zl. The same with coffe, in Romania i can drink a coffe for about 3zl and here is 3 or 4 times more expensive.

Life / Where to get a cup of coffee in Warsaw? [40]

Did i open a can of worms? Unfortunatley new laws come out that prohibit smockin more and more. I see this as a clear sign of human rights violation, but then again i'm a smocker, if i would be a non-smocker maybe i would see it diferentley. Recentley i had to take a longer, 12 hour trip with train, and if you play by the rules you can't smocke anywhere, not on the train and not eaven in stops. So what can a smocker do? Non-smockers get's everything and smockers get nothing. How is this fair? A train has multiple vagons, when you buy a ticket you should be able to buy a ticket on smocking or non-smocking place and problem solved, but NO, non-smockers HAVE to have everything, the whole damn train. I ask again, how is this fair? Freedom of choice is our birthright, use it people, choose a ticket in a non-smocking vagon and let smockers have their places too. This can be aplied anywhere, coffeterias too, couse that's where we started this discusion, if i as owner want to invest in a coffeteria for smockers i should be able too, if non-smockers want to come inside they are welcomed BUT don't start bitchin about the smocke if you do choose to go in.

Oh well a rant has it's uses, but unfortunatley that's what it is, JUST a rant nothing more, and unfortunatley things will only change for the worst at least for the smockers, for non-smockers things change for the better. Riiiiight this IS fair.

Life / Where to get a cup of coffee in Warsaw? [40]

Good point about the comparison in food/coffe prices. But i'm just not used to needing to take a bus/tram/metro to go for a freackin coffe. I don't need a nice place like Hard Rock Caffe, a dump would be enough, just to be able to drink my coffe in peace AND smock a cigarete.

BTW, how is the law in Poland about coffeterias? Can you open a coffeteria(no eating, just drinking coffe or tea, maybe a bear but not too much alcohol) only for smockers or you have to have space for non-smockers too?

Life / Where to get a cup of coffee in Warsaw? [40]

Well then the price of coffe in coffeterias are way out of the ordinary. If the need for it is not there the price should be small, but is the exact oposit. In Romania, a country that is very much similar to Poland only the economy is a bit lower then in Poland but not by much, the prices of other things are about equal, like gas, food is about the same, eaven the currency 1zl~=1leu, and in Romania i can get a coffe in a nice place for about 3zl and maybe 5zl if i'm going in a reeealy nice place but in Poland i could not find cheaper then 8zl and that was in a dump of a coffeteria. At CoffeHeaven is atleast 10zl a coffe and they only give you a cup of coffe to go, you can't drink a coffe at them. That is why i'm saying that the prices just don't seam right to me.

Life / A trip to a Polish supermarket [136]

I know about bakeries, ofcourse. But i generaly i just shop in one place like Real, no time to wander around. And eaven in bakeries, they have all sorts of bread, with stupid seads on it and whatnot. I only want a simple WHITE bread. It is really hard to find such bread.

And about sliced bread, well i don't like those couse i like to make my own sandwiches, with big slices not those half-a-centimeter slices that shops have.

Life / A trip to a Polish supermarket [136]

Great thread.
I'm from Romania living in Warsaw for work for 4 months now. My biggest problem with shops was finding bread. Yeah, i know it's stupid, but in the first 2 months i only bought those sliced toast-bread. Anything else was crap. Eaven now after 4 months i still did not find a not-sliced WHITE bread. Only some semi-brown bread that is acceptable in taste. If i miss something from back home is the bread.

PS: Did i mention i love bread?