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Many laws state that you can't vote under 18 and can't be elected under 21. Damn discrimination... As for your problem with with church law please ask a priest, not me.

As for the disclosing girl's data, you don't know who did it. Let's wait for court's ruling.


You seemingly don't have any problem with Planned Parenthood fanatics who will break any law just to make sure the girl gets aborted.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

Forsaken, You must have been already celebrating the well-done job of abortion of this poor girl, but still that's not the case. Her pregnancy is developing properly, and I'm really sorry if that makes you furious.

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/Wiadomosci/1,80269,5302271,Dyrekcja_szpitala__Abo rcji_nie_bedzie__14_latka_zmienia.html

The doctors there actually do know the Oath and it's obvious you have never actually seen it. Have a look at what the Hipocratic Oath really says and remember this for all your life:


brownback.senate.gov/Oath.htm

ShalleyS, there are several hundred legal abortions performed in Poland each year done for medical reasons or in cases of rape. There are no pro-life protests in front of hospitals or interest from media. So it's not that the law is not working in Poland.

What was really special about this particular case is that the girl wanted to keep the baby, and she was under incredible pressure from her mother, aborters from so called Planned Parenthood and pro-abortion media, who invented the "rape" version to legalize the abortion. If the girl was convinced to abort, she would have done it long time ago, even with a day-after pill.

The Planned Parenthood strategy of inventing any legal or non-legal ways to abort was described long time ago. In the paragraph below you will find open invitation to break law if it puts smallest limit on the abortion:


To give you idea about how the strategy works in real life, I will quote a comment left by a Polish girl living in UK at Maciej Gnyszka's blog:

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

To summarize what has been said against the abortion:

June 10 - Kurier Lubelski: "...it came out that the girl wanted to keep the baby. She asked her friends for help in numerous SMS's saying that she wants to give a birth... Her mother thinks it will waste her life".

June 9 - Dziennik: "In school the girl told one of teachers she wants to keep the baby"

June 9 - Gazeta Wyborcza: "Policeman - the girl's teacher told me she wants to have a birth"

June 8 - Maciej Gnyszka: "there was no rape" (and actually you can find it hidden in GW article)

June 7 - Gazeta Wyborcza publishes the first hard-core "rape" article

June 6 - Maciej Gnyszka: "she does want to keep the baby"

June 5 - Maciej Gnyszka first writes about the girl on his blog and notes that "the rape story is invented to legalize abortion"

I don't feel like discarding all these quotes just because today Newsweek wrote they spoke with the girl and "she wants abort". You have no guarantee that it's indeed what the girl said. It's not authorised interview. It's very common among journalists to change sense of someone's words completely, like if you say "I think I want to abort or maybe not" and the journaliast discards everything starting from "or"?

"Any sexual act with a child under 15yr is considered as rape in Poland"

It's not considered as rape. It's just plainly not true. Any sexual act under 15 is considered crime if commited by an adult. If commited by another underage, it's considered a "forbidden action", but never "a rape".

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

Law doesn't work automatic - it's not like underage means rape means abort. Having sexual intercourse underage and rape are not the same things.

Underage sex may be result of a crime. Whether it was crime or not it's to be decided by a court. In any case it gives her RIGHT to abort but noone can't FORCE her to abort.

I would like to recall a very similiar case from Torino, Italy from 2003. A 13-old girl got pregnant and wanted to KEEP the baby. Her mother got to a court to get something incredible - order for a FORCED abortion. After the girl got forcibly aborted, she tried to commit a suicide. She was rescued and then only place for her was asylum. Nice example of woman rights enforcement, isn't it? Planned Parenthood must have been very happy with that.

So what parents think doesn't give them full right to decide for their daughter. I would like to see you guys when the mother actually tried to convince the girl AGAINST abortion. You would be screaming as hell and calling her fascist.

"Im sure that the rape lie was done because of the abortion law in Poland"

Yeah, excellent idea to put a 14-year old boy to prison as a rapist.

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

After seeing how the story was manipulated from the very beginning, I don't trust a single word from neither from Gazeta nor Newsweek.

BTW read this, by the same author, Luiza £uniewska:

media.wp.pl/kat,38212,wid,8238393,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=160b6

News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]

The article from Gazeta is 100% lie.

First, the girl was not raped. She got pregnant with a friend from her school.

Second, she was not denied abortion. She refused abortion, and was later forced to abort by her mother and pro-choice activists.

Third, the pro-life activists did not attack her. They offered numerous forms of help, including financial.

Fourth, it was not attack from pro-lifers that stopped the abortion. It was ruling from a local court which quickly figured out that the "rape" version was plain lie.

The "rape" version was corrected two days later by Gazeta, but of course it did not get as much coverage. You can find some details here (Polish):

maciejgnyszka.blogspot.com/2008/06/9-vi-2008-poniedziaek-w-efrema.html