Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
after EU treaty everything will change it would be good idea to get more influence in this organiastion. I don't know if you noticed (I think not) that we can influecne on EU and we do it. We used veto on EU-Russia talks. We can't do the same on USA-Russia talks. We can block all agreements between EU-Russia. We can't do it in relations Russia-USA. We use our EU rights, after EU treaty more decions will be made in Brussels and it seems we will be influencial country there. What can you say about Polands influence on US policy ?
after EU treaty everything will change it would be good idea to get more influence in this organiastion. I don't know if you noticed (I think not) that we can influecne on EU and we do it. We used veto on EU-Russia talks. We can't do the same on USA-Russia talks. We can block all agreements between EU-Russia. We can't do it in relations Russia-USA. We use our EU rights, after EU treaty more decions will be made in Brussels and it seems we will be influencial country there. What can you say about Polands influence on US policy ?
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
we are safe because we are part of EU not because USA is our ally. This the point. This is why only 20% Poles support project of this shield, it is not guaranty of our safety.
From reading your post I get the impression your scared....Be it Russia or Germany.. do not worry Poland is fairly safe...
we are safe because we are part of EU not because USA is our ally. This the point. This is why only 20% Poles support project of this shield, it is not guaranty of our safety.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
I am not pro Russian. I am Polish.
I don't like Putin and his policy. I just wanted to notice that maybe we shouldn't be more pro USA than rest of EU.
I would like EU be succesful, I know that when it will be unsuccessful we will have problems with Germans. USA will be on Germans side because they are more important partner for them.
Now we are member of EU and it is good. We should influence on EU policy and in our interest is EU being more suspicious towars Russia. All I think that we don't need USA and we shouldn't be used by them to make EU weaker (shield) and be their anti-Russian puppet.
We should be more asertive, what means we are part of EU. We have more and more influce in this organisation and this is fact. To moment EU exist we are safe.
When EU will be over (I hope never) USA will leave us alone and we should think about everything. Russia can be our potencial partner.
To show my point of view. We are part of EU. We are safe. We can have normal relations with Russia (Russians in past have been doing everything to make it hard I would say imposible)
We shouldn't be USA puppet in EU.
The fact is that USA wants this shield to make EU weaker they don't need strong EU.
Only one country who have special relationship with USA is Israel. We are not Israel our relations is only business last time more USA than our.
Like to add no way in hell are you Polish...No intelligent polish person would be so pro Russia at a time the Kremlin is using gas as a political tool, issuing nuclear threats, orchestrating a cyber attack on estonia, etc....
I am not pro Russian. I am Polish.
I don't like Putin and his policy. I just wanted to notice that maybe we shouldn't be more pro USA than rest of EU.
I would like EU be succesful, I know that when it will be unsuccessful we will have problems with Germans. USA will be on Germans side because they are more important partner for them.
Now we are member of EU and it is good. We should influence on EU policy and in our interest is EU being more suspicious towars Russia. All I think that we don't need USA and we shouldn't be used by them to make EU weaker (shield) and be their anti-Russian puppet.
We should be more asertive, what means we are part of EU. We have more and more influce in this organisation and this is fact. To moment EU exist we are safe.
When EU will be over (I hope never) USA will leave us alone and we should think about everything. Russia can be our potencial partner.
To show my point of view. We are part of EU. We are safe. We can have normal relations with Russia (Russians in past have been doing everything to make it hard I would say imposible)
We shouldn't be USA puppet in EU.
The fact is that USA wants this shield to make EU weaker they don't need strong EU.
Only one country who have special relationship with USA is Israel. We are not Israel our relations is only business last time more USA than our.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
What is more, we are more valuable partner when we have choice :P
why ?
What is more, we are more valuable partner when we have choice :P
tragic
why ?
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
This is not surprise, I like Russians as people I don't like Putin and things like this.
Only one thing is that we shouldn't be manipualted by USA and pay for being their ally. We know they have Poland deep in their as*.
We are EU member and we should stick to them.
Currently we have different interests with Russians and it is normal what they do. Of couse I don't like it, but we in our decisons whink only about our interest.
This is not surprise, I like Russians as people I don't like Putin and things like this.
Only one thing is that we shouldn't be manipualted by USA and pay for being their ally. We know they have Poland deep in their as*.
We are EU member and we should stick to them.
Currently we have different interests with Russians and it is normal what they do. Of couse I don't like it, but we in our decisons whink only about our interest.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
In Poland we have real politics like you have in USA.
When EU will be over and european countries will argue then we will think about other choices than EU.
When EU will be successful we will be safe, it is good to have normal realtions with Russians because they are very important trade partner.
USA is XIX century England. Without rules, without moral, only with interests.
In Poland we have real politics like you have in USA.
When EU will be over and european countries will argue then we will think about other choices than EU.
When EU will be successful we will be safe, it is good to have normal realtions with Russians because they are very important trade partner.
USA is XIX century England. Without rules, without moral, only with interests.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
We are pro-EU. I hope EU will be second USA. If EU will be unsuccessful (read there will be no EU, states will decide to end this project ) we should remember where is Poland and look on map and on our borders.
we don't need USA, they are worthless partner in our situation.
We are pro-EU. I hope EU will be second USA. If EU will be unsuccessful (read there will be no EU, states will decide to end this project ) we should remember where is Poland and look on map and on our borders.
we don't need USA, they are worthless partner in our situation.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
You are dumb, you shouldn't comment my post in this way because you don't understand it. There are many people who think like I think.
Polish people don't want this US shield. Only 20-30% supports this sh*t.
You are dumb, you shouldn't comment my post in this way because you don't understand it. There are many people who think like I think.
Polish people don't want this US shield. Only 20-30% supports this sh*t.
Bartek86
10 Feb 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]
It is good we will have better relations with Russia. I like Russians as people, they have interesting art and literature.
Poland shouldn't be USA friend, we should stick to EU. When EU will be unsuccessful (I hope it will be successful) We should change side and join Russians to protect our western border. I think it is logical.
It is good we will have better relations with Russia. I like Russians as people, they have interesting art and literature.
Poland shouldn't be USA friend, we should stick to EU. When EU will be unsuccessful (I hope it will be successful) We should change side and join Russians to protect our western border. I think it is logical.