TigerLily
8 Jun 2008
News / 14 year old rape victim from Warsaw denied abortion! [348]
Please, let me enter the discussion.
> Not my problem?? What kind of answer is that?
That is an answer of a true Caholic. They only care that the baby is born; not whether – and how – s/he and the parents survive afterwards. Perfect example is case of Mrs Alicja Tysiac, who was also illegally denied abortion which threatened her already extremely poor eyesight. According to Mrs Tysiac herself, “57 Catholic organizations wrote to Strasburg [when the European Court of Justice stated that she was wronged], but none ever asked whether she and the baby could be helped”.
> priests have the right to voice their opinions
Here the case is not about ‘voicing an opinion’, but a priest following and pestering the family with bunch of older religious women, disrupting the hospital and even sticking to them in the police station. Which by the way shows that such people are above law in Poland, because when a normal private person in no way would be allowed to occupy the nurses’ office in hospital or hamper provision of medical services.
> [Church] lying to children in schools saying condoms do not work. A: BS
Well, as a Pole who went to school when religion was already there, I can only confirm: the cleric who had religion lessons with us (and other classes) presented as an undisputed fact that condoms do not work, and that women who use pills will die (generally) of breast cancer at the age of 50. It was in Warsaw.
As regards so-called Church’s respect for a human life, I will start to believe it when e.g. it will start to protest against Polish troops in Iraq (where they are killed and kill regularly – and Iraq is not even invading us); or when a Pope receives Dalai Lama and protests against Tibetians being murdered by the Chinese. Or when it will support Jerzy Owsiak, due to whose charity-raising action numerous, baby-life saving hospital equipment was bought. Alas, curiously this ‘respect’ means mostly opposing abortion regardless of the circumstances and the woman's fate.
Please, let me enter the discussion.
> Not my problem?? What kind of answer is that?
That is an answer of a true Caholic. They only care that the baby is born; not whether – and how – s/he and the parents survive afterwards. Perfect example is case of Mrs Alicja Tysiac, who was also illegally denied abortion which threatened her already extremely poor eyesight. According to Mrs Tysiac herself, “57 Catholic organizations wrote to Strasburg [when the European Court of Justice stated that she was wronged], but none ever asked whether she and the baby could be helped”.
> priests have the right to voice their opinions
Here the case is not about ‘voicing an opinion’, but a priest following and pestering the family with bunch of older religious women, disrupting the hospital and even sticking to them in the police station. Which by the way shows that such people are above law in Poland, because when a normal private person in no way would be allowed to occupy the nurses’ office in hospital or hamper provision of medical services.
> [Church] lying to children in schools saying condoms do not work. A: BS
Well, as a Pole who went to school when religion was already there, I can only confirm: the cleric who had religion lessons with us (and other classes) presented as an undisputed fact that condoms do not work, and that women who use pills will die (generally) of breast cancer at the age of 50. It was in Warsaw.
As regards so-called Church’s respect for a human life, I will start to believe it when e.g. it will start to protest against Polish troops in Iraq (where they are killed and kill regularly – and Iraq is not even invading us); or when a Pope receives Dalai Lama and protests against Tibetians being murdered by the Chinese. Or when it will support Jerzy Owsiak, due to whose charity-raising action numerous, baby-life saving hospital equipment was bought. Alas, curiously this ‘respect’ means mostly opposing abortion regardless of the circumstances and the woman's fate.