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osiol   
12 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

Scottish cities have achieved much. Look at Glasgow: 1990 European Capital of Culture

A bit like Liverpool this year. There - I've mentioned an Irish, sorry - English city!

Actually, Newcastle was close to winning the competition for city of culture, but it didn't need the extra funding that is provided to go with this accolade - it's great enough without needing that helping hand.

1999 UK city of Architecture+Design

London can't win every time.
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

why dont they drop the royal moniker

Because there's already an un-royal bank up there.
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

the English

Would you care to comment on my new thread? I would be interested in your opinion.

polishforums.com/country_vs_nationality-16_18224_0.html
osiol   
12 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

I seem to remember at least the Irish took up arms...did some sorta fighting to gain their independence....whilst Scotland did what?

I didn't realise you were that old.

What did Scotland do? Be a part of Britain - just as much to blame for what Britain does as England.
The Scots vote in British elections you may have noticed. Have you seen how many cabinet ministers over the last few years have been Scottish? Gordon Brown is... um... (amongst other things) Scottish.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / TRUTH AND DELUSION ABOUT POLES IN UK [65]

I wonder how many 'Poles' in the UK are actually Slovakian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Czech, and so on. Poland is bigger and has a bigger total population than the others I have listed, so the idiots often use the words Pole or Polish out of ignorance.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
Language / Common mistakes made by foreigners in Polish [90]

I suppose a Polish person wouldnt be too offended by a disasterous mispronunciation once they hear the accent and realise you dont speak too much Polish?

But - the criticism I got when I called the word 'Przerwa!' to signal break-time at work from one particular Polish colleague/flatmate of mine (fast becoming the stuff of legend I fear).

- What was wrong with that?
- Przerwa, he repeated back to me.
- That's what I said.
- You said 'Przerwa' and it should be 'Przerwa'!

I get the p at the beginning, I like to think I get the rz right, I even rolled my r properly, so what was wrong?

I spent the next five minutes whilst walking back, taking the p!ss out of everything he said in English.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
Travel / Donkey visits Poland [76]

Idę w krzaki

Thanks. I knew it was wrong, but it's often better to get it wrong and raise a smile rather than say nothing and appear uninteresting. If you're really lucky, somebody tells you what you're supposed to have said.

I once had a holiday in Amsterdam. It was a trip with the art department from school when I was in my last year. I drank loads and loads of cheap whisky that did me no good whatsoever. We weren't supposed to stop in Belgium, but there was an emergency stop for me to visit the public conveniences. I fell out of the bus and staggered to the toilets.

"Whatever you do, don't lock the door."
Click!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Part 9

When travelling by coach, you just have to accept it will be uncomfortable. There's never enough legroom, you're bag usually spends most of the jounrey on your lap because someone else has already filled the overhead storage. You're either wedged in by the window or your legs are stuck out into the aisle with other people's bags in the way and people trying to step over you.

I continued up the aisle, knowing I wouldn't find a window seat. It was over half full of passengers and the rest seemed to be full of their bags. 'How many sandwiches are these people going to need for the journey?' I thought. As I approached the back of the bus, I was running out of choices where to sit.

A girl was curled up by the window with her bag at her feet. For a moment it looked like two seats were vacant. So I sat down. I peered out of the window and could see Darek outside, talking to some random people as per usual. More people boarded. Some of them had to awkwardly step over my legs as I awkwardly tried to move them out of the way.

I dozed off quite soon. It had been a big night from which to recover. I woke up as we entered another town. Quite soon we had stopped to pick up a few more passengers. The girl was still curled up looking out of the window. I was envious of every person I could see outside having a cigarette. After some time, the door closed and we started to move.

I sat awake, thinking about all the things that had happened - the food, the drink, the people, the bear attack, about the disappearing Grzegorz, about what Darek had said about having to change coach somewhere.

The next town was bigger and it took longer to get to the bus station. The girl was still staring out of the window. I looked out of the window, up at what I assumed to be the bus station building. She was looking down at what was going on below.

Suddenly, she turned round to me and in a small, broken voice, started speaking. I could see tears in her eyes. She looked young, probably only about eighteen or so. I apologised for my lack of Polish. 'Jestem z Anglii. Gdzie idziesz?' I tried asking her. She told me she was going to London. It was her first time leaving Poland on her own. 'Don't worry.' I told her and smiled The tears seemed to have stopped.

Then she pointed out of the window and said something else I didn't understand. I looked down to see not only a large pile of bags accumulating on the pavement, but something that looked like my bag there as well. My heart began to race. 'If I don't come back, good luck.' I chased after my bag. There it was with the others piled up by the side of the coach. I rescued it.

I rolled and lit a cigarette and looked around. Other people were standing around with cigarettes looking cold-faced. There were a few emotional farewells over by another coach. I looked up at the coach I had just been on. I couldn't see through the windows, I couldn't see the girl. I had the feeling of life throwing people around - they don't know where they're going, or sometimes why.

Two cigarettes later I had the second coach to board. It was the second of four coaches in a thirty two hour journey. I suppose all the ups and downs broke the monotony, but I still wished we had Grzegorz, his car and a supply of vodka to keep us going.

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osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

you've not descended to the level of the English

Is that something I can see on your shoulder there?
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

looser

... when they get uptight?

****

Arse doesn't get censored, so what could this be?
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

the scottish economy built on sand

This statement is not geologically sound .
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
Travel / Donkey visits Poland [76]

Part 8

We had left work at half past four. I was jammed between Darek and Bartek on the back seat, with Grzegorz in the front and Jurek behind the wheel. His foot was off the accelarator more than on. The M25 should be in the book of world records under the world's largest car parks section. It took about 3 hours to get to Slough - a journey of about forty four miles (seventy kilometres) that should have taken about an hour.

It was uncomfortable, but I was having a laugh with Bartek about how many swear words Darek used. I taught him how to count in binary code with his fingers. Most people can only count to ten on their fingers, but this technique allows you to get as far as 1023. Take your shoes off and you can increase that figure to 1, 408, 575.

We moved forwards by a couple of feet and then stopped again. I heard the word 'Chuj' in some form or other from Darek. Bartek appropraitely indicated 1, 408, 576!

After a shower and a bite to eat and a load of faffing about in Slough, we set off for real, this time in Grzegorz's car. He was to drive all the way. Darek and I just had to help keep him awake.



I like ferry crossings. I've made many in my life. Most of those across the Solent, but a few across the English Channel - that narrow sleeve of water that makes some British people think they are somehow superior to everyone else. The vodka and beer we had drunk in the car sent Darek to sleep as soon as we found a suitable deck on the ferry where it wasn't too smart. My taste buds had been warmed up, so I grabbed myself another Leffe at great cost and headed outside with Grzegorz for a cigarette.

The wind was strong making it feel cold and threatening to take my cigarette papers and even tobacco with it. Other than a couple of trips to the bar, we spent nearly the entire crossing out there. We were both excited about the trip. It was the first time I'd thrown all caution to the wind and gone on such a crazy adventure. Grzegorz had other reasons to look forward.

Like most of the Polish blokes I worked with, his English was limited, but enough to get by in conversation. I remember talking about my previous trips across the channel and where I'd been. I remember Grzegorz talking about how much he liked Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd rather than that dreadful Disco Polo that Bartek had subjected us to on the M25.

I also remember that I was getting quite drunk.

Calais and Dunquerque rolled by. The cars and the freight rolled by. The darkness rolled by.
'We're in Belgium. We can sleep.'
'Idę do krzaki.' I said in my bad Polish, before using Belgium for the only thing I ever use Belgium for.
The alcohol was finally enough to cut through the excitement of travel and let me get some well earned unconciousness.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's it really like being a Polish worker in the UK? [25]

Then I realised he talked just as much in Polish

The star of the show in my Visit to Poland thread didn't learn much English, just enough for him to be able to talk talk talk talk talk. I remember a thread started by Admin where he says that Poles like to talk. Lots of people like to talk, but I have met some very good talkers even if they're not such great speakers.

edit: By 'star of the show', what I mean is that in the movie versions for example, especially the remake, the donkey's character is somewhat is sidelined in the plot to make way for someone who provides a lot more dialogue.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

Where's the ENGLISH government?

The West Lothian question.

We must just accept that being British, most people (mostly, not only foreigners) don't know who we are or who governs whom within these isles.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's it really like being a Polish worker in the UK? [25]

Hmm, so is it the girl at work who YOU fancy?

No, but we both have a love of cheese.

new place

Maybe it's something that just takes time.

Where I work it is quite small. There are two Hungarians, a lady who is somewhat Italian, the girl who everyone fancies who is half Spanish. We've had loads of Australians and South Africans in the past, French, German, Dutch, formerly quite a few Irish people. More recently, there have been other Poles, Lithuanians, Slovaks emplyed through an agency, which is where we found him.

So there has always been quite a mix of people and very few problems certain trolls on this site claim to be commonplace. The common thread between everyone is a love of plants (or tractors and forklifts) and a certain level of insanity (why else would we all work for less than average pay, outdoors in the rain?) He was taken on full-time, nothing to do with qualifications, but because he liked the work and was prepared (most of the time) to work hard.

he'll talk to you anyway

That is the kind of thing that helps.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's it really like being a Polish worker in the UK? [25]

NOT treated the same at work as British colleagues

From one particular lady at work, I got back and received a cheerful 'Hello, donkey! Have a good Christmas?' whereas Bartek (is this encouraging the ladies?) got a cuddle and a kiss and a 'Welcome back! We all missed you!' Grrr! It's not even the girl at work who he fancies!

PD, is this a large place where it is easy for co-workers to ignore eachother? I work in quite a small place and it is rare for anyone not to say good morning to anyone.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's it really like being a Polish worker in the UK? [25]

I asked my flatmate. He said the following:

What makes life in the UK better or worse than life back home?

It used to be a girl, but now... ?

Do you see your stay as temporary ? eg. To stay for a couple of years to make enough money to buy a flat back home?
Or are you keen to stay in the UK and make a life here?

Dunno!

Are you treated the same at work as your British colleagues?

It is good.

Are your skills and qualifications recognised and utilised by your employer?

Not really, but any qualifications are not related and don't add up to much anyway.

How would you describe your experience of working in the UK?

It's alright. I don't know!

For some unknown reason, he wants me to mention that his name is Bartek. I think he thinks this information will lure the ladies.

I would say that he is an example of someone who didn't have much of a career before coming to the UK because he's not very old. A (quite bad) employment agency found him the place he works at now. We stole him off the agency. He is treated as an equal. More than an equal by one or two people at work. It's terrible finding someone becoming more popular than yourself! Also, he has in the past varied between saying he'll go back to Poland to become a policeman (absolutely ridiculous if you know him) and staying here for the rest of his life.
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
Life / Legally changing my Polish name to English one? [55]

I wouldn't want to legally change my name to Osioł. That's mostly for fear of how people might pronounce it.

I'd say between a quarter and a third of people I know aren't called what their official name is eg. James > Jim, David > Dave, Bartosz > Bert! (Only joking with the last one).
osiol   
11 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

So is pizza dont start saying we have an infinity with Italy though do we?

I had Italian coffee for breakfast then spaghetti bolognese for lunch the other day. The next thing I knew I was driving really badly and arrogantly. Someone started to argue with me so I waved my arms around a lot and made loads of noise, but when things started to escallate, I quickly changed sides.

More seriously, Britain has been all over the world, for better and for worse. Culturally, we just take the things we like and leave the things we don't.

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lets see if you are so optimistic at the end of 08

Some people are optimistic because things are so bad, they can only get better.
Other people are optimistic because things are actually good.
I think there is a bit of both in the UK at the moment, but there is far more going well here than there is going badly.
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
Life / "I can spot a Pole a mile away" - Polish fashion? [146]

od peerdolly

Pierdole

Not 'od pierdol się'?

I know it as kuźwa, and that's an oldie.

Maybe there are more!

I heard a lot more kurna on my last visit - is that a word that actually means something else cf. kurczę?
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

lemon sole

I have a few of these in my freezer and all this talking is tempting me, but I must resist - it must be pheasant tomorrow, then spaghetti bolognese (complete with chicken livers) on Saturday - all traditional British cuisine. I'll save the fish until everything else runs short. This has all made me think - it's a long time since I had a pie!
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

Horrid!! I could eat almost anything from a chippie bar white/red/black puddings

What? Even those luminous radioactive mushy peas?

haddock

A fine choice, sir. But I do find an extra brush of the teeth is required to prevent the breath of death from occurring.
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

What other pub food r u gonna make me jealous of u 4 osioł?

I read that you don't miss black pudding - I had a big fried / grilled breakfast today with black and white puddings, tomatoes, two sausages, two rashers, a fried egg (and a bit of Polish mustard for the sausages).

Bangers and mash?
Roast pheasant tomorrow if I make it to the greengrocers. I haven't decided what veg to have with it.

I believe haggis is illegal in the USA due to the includion of lung! So if anyone manages to sneak one in, why not celebrate with a fine Cuban cigar?
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

haggis

I had haggis with the usual mash and swede (I'm English as I have stated previously) last night.
I'm sure you're all fascinated to read that.

utter rubbish

osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

toaster

I once sat at my computer, wasted three hours typing my usual mix of utter rubbish and slight genius, then I pondered to myself - the screen is blank... I know! I was supposed to turn the computer on!
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

I don't think I could interest my flatmate in this site if I even wanted to.
I wouldn't want him here anyway - I wouldn't so easy get away with telling everyone things like:
The other day he put his clothes in the washing machine, switched it on, pulled his clothes out an hour later and said
"I forgot the washing powder."

edit: If you didn't know by now that he's Polish, you obviously find my posts boring, so why are you now reading this one?

If you're a troll, ALL POLES FORGET THE WASHING POWDER PRETTY MUCH EVERY OTHER WASH.
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

I'm Welsh too

Wales and the Welsh seem to be very much under-represented on this forum.

On the other hand, Scots, Scotland, England and the English - there's far too much of us.
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

Happy as Hull

Manchester is ' the best'

Opinions like this are what prevent my Welsh-born, southern England-educated former Geordie returning from Ireland brother from turning into a Scouser.

Any Newcastle appreciaters?

Me. I miss going up there for holidays.
osiol   
10 Jan 2008
UK, Ireland / What's So Great About The UK? [416]

As sumptuous as Sunderland.
As marvellous as Middlesborough.
Sorry, northeast.