News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Its called being open minded,try it sometime,you may learn something.....or maybe not,too worried that us whites are too weak and our culture so useless as to be completly swallowed by some scary "other". I suggest you get out more.


I'll take that as a compliment,on this thread she seems to be the only one with any SOLUTIONS not just b*tching and moaning.

Do you think I love all aspects of "other" cultures? The answer is like hell I do, I agree when people say immigration is out of control and certain people are slipping through that are seriously screwing up the integrity of certain cities.

Example,the bleedin Somalis,why is it 80 odd % of the time I hear of some brutal stabbing or unprovoked attack/murder in London its some ex bleedin boy soldier from Aideeds mob. If you ask me,letting in hordes of young males from a vicious war zone with no tangi#able connection to the UK is plain stupid and asking for trouble,but,do I lump the DR from Zimbabwai in my local surgery in with them,no,unlike you lot.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


No,you wrote about a cop wearing a turban,you didnt mention religion, wtf is the problem, a cops a cop,if I dial 999(911) Im not worrying about whats on their head or how many if any gods they pray to.

But,regardless,taking your logic the only thing cops in Canada or USA should wear on their heads is an Eagle Feather.


lol, you are a Redneck :)

Travel / Planning a hen night in Warsaw. [10]

Agreed, Warsaw aint the place for a hen night.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


They are HINDUS you f*ckwit. Mind you, lets face it,People who think all people of the same race or background are the same are f*ckwits period so why point out individual examples of f*ckwittedness.......

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Well,you said it.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Of course you did,you keep telling yourselfs that,lol,poles had it harder than blacks.....cant remember reading about the Polish civil rights movement,or Rosa Parkska getting kicked off a bus.


"should not be allowed to thrive.." You mean,keep them down and in their place? I dont suspect you will see the irony of your statments but Im sure those with a little insight will.


Again,its so great it wont get swept away then will it.....lol,rednecks,aint they pi ss poor white folks?Ya know,the average JoeSixTooth of trailer park fame?


I happen to agree 100% there,if you go on "my" streets of "my" country and spout some of the disgusting stuff they do I say,sod free speach,if you want to live under muslim law,F*CK OFF TO SAUDI ARABIA!!!

But,people like you dont just want rid of the proven fanatics,you want rid of Everyone based on some spurious genetic or skin tone link,guilty until proven guilty ,so,I say again,you claim European culture as being liberal yes? With your extremly non liberal ideas YOU are the one who is straying from European cultural norms arnt you,or do you really not see that?


What a load of bollox,sure stuff like this happens every now and again but lets see,if 2 boys ,white boys kissed in public in Poland or Tennasee what do you think would happen? That fellow white folks would say "good on you,your keeping with the spirit of white liberal tollerence..." or more likely beat the living sh*t out of them.....

UK, Ireland / What is in Poland that England doesn't have? [142]


and the road signs warning them not to go on motorways......
Strip farming,love flying into Poland as you can look out the window and spot when you cross the german/polish border,one minute its modern agro corp wilderness,the next its the 16th century:)

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


And what went on in the balkans at the same time as rwanda shelley,or is this selective memory contagious,mexicans bring the flu,Poles bring amnesia...


Why do you feel this,like I say,is your link to our culture so weak that you will let it slip away because someone tells you to? How can we lose our identity? I dont feel black or muslim just because a few of them live near me,do you?

Seriously,Im interested in getting to the bottom of why some people fell they will just hand over their own culture as soon as it rubs up against another.

I may be wrong but,from experience it always seems to be people with the least knowladge of "their" culture and certainly a very low input into "their" culture who bleat about losing it.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


Because they were dispersed,there are no Polish only neighbourhoods in Britain (aside from one or two old peoples homes...)


And we slaughtered each other in barbaric ways,burned for being the "wrong" religion etc

Ah well,all you poor white folks who see "your" culture as being so weak that "substandard" cultures will sweep it away....if "white" culture is so weak and easy to crumble apart,wtf are you so proud of and why would you want to preserve such a weak culture? Or isd it the people who spout this crap that are weak? Probably,Im white,European and I cant see myself giving up any of my culture,I happen to have a little more faith in my fellow whiteys to not be overwhelmed by anyone else.

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


State it as clearly as you like,you'd still be wrong,one thing creates dysfunctional elements and thats poverty and lack of oppertunity. Like you say,Poland hasd its share of problems and about 12 black people ergo its not a race thing but an attitude.

USA, Canada / Polish stuff vs. American stuff [107]


the 1830s wasnt it?

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]

There never has been a fixed culture in the history of human civilisation. A fixed culture is a dead culture,ie non existent.All cultures adapt,change over time and absorb new ideas,if they didnt most of us would still be living in huts or caves worshipping the sun and moon........

News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]


get the old snip snip?


Thats the big problem,that these people must know it probably isnt a good career move to spout trash like this,but do it anyway,it speaks volumes for their levels of self control and general emotional maturity doesnt it. I personally dont like rascist views,I probably hold a few deep down but thats not the point,day to day I try to be colour blind and certainly dont see any inherant superiority in any one skin tone but do see superior "cultures" or aat least norms of behaiviour, islams treatment of women for example I abhore,doesnt mean I hate all muslims,I just wish theyd get out the 14th century now and again.

If all negative views about other races/cultures whatever are proscribed and subject to legal actions this does not drive thoughts and ideas from peoples minds,it just drives it underground. So instead of open dialogue sociaty seems to be breeding simmiring resentments that simply dont get an open forum and a chance to be debated publicaly.

News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]


Thats probably because I have only been on here 4 days,with a break of nearly a year since I last posted regulary.......put it this way, a link to a Ditta von teese story has just been posted,I nearly followed it untill I saw it was to the DailyHate....so if Ditta cant draw me even to view a web site what do you suppose my views are on said paper or any of its hysterical,volksher beobachter style repo


rting?
I wouldnt know,I dont read right wing crap like the Times,or Express or Mail or Sun so it escapes my radar most of the time.

What do you wish me to say,he is a rascist and an idiot,well ,of course he is. Or do you wish me to say something due to the fact that by accident of birth I was born in the same group of islands as him?


Exactly,If its "Public" and is likely to cause distress or hurt to a specific,present target group then yes, its wrong,no doubt,

But if it is a privatly held view that ,to the most part,will not affect anyone out side of a small group of probably like minded friends is it anyones right to become the arbiter of private views?

The other side is,and this is my personal feelings,when it is no longer deemed acceptable for blacks to use terms like honky or cracker,normally for "laughs" in American films or movies,then the black community may once again have some moral high ground,untill then lets just call it a rather nasty and un hippyish kind of equality where all are free to be as ignorent and plain dumb as they wish so long as it doesnt physicaly hurt others,ie incitment to do harm.

News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]


D'oh,I really should have re read the op post before going off on a cod intelectual exersise :)
Ok ,in his case,Guilty as charged then,still interested if people think there is a difference between private thoughts and words and public deeds and actions though?

Im sure people will either cry rascist or hypocrite when I say that,even though as people may know Im one of the first to call out bigots on this forum of course Im only human and in private occasionally have moments of bigotry myself,ie,cut up by a driver,if he's white he's a "stupid c**t!",if I spot he's black or asian say he's a "stupid black/asian c**t!" . Am I and the many people Im sure are like me as "bad" as those who spout garbage in public and do those people really deep down believe they are from a "superior race" or like me do they moments after an irational bigoted thought or word regret their stupidity? And I mean in private,not regreting being caught just regreting the thought?

Sorry if thats a bit deep,just interested.

News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]


Court will decide who has best legal team/most money.......
Did he say this in Public,did he go on Polish TV and call Black people monkeys? If these rascist veiws do harm to a country who is responsable for this,the person who may or may not have said this in private or the person who decides to make it public? Of course this only works for thought crimes,other "whistle blowers" are an exception and normaly positive. Is this man in his day to day working life on a Polish TV station really going to affect the working lives or employment prospects of many/any people of African descent? It would be different in a more "multicultural " sociaty but in a 99% white one,whats the biggie?

News / Chairman of TVP flies the racist flag for Poland [51]

Speaking as a " Northern Monkey" I can see where Krzysztof is coming from with the question but lets face it,when your talking about a black guy on what is probably a fairly primitive TV station(has anyone seen Nigerian TV?) by western standards then its probably safe to assume that if he did use the term Monkey it sure as s*** was meant as a rascist remark considering the long history of equating dark skin and african heratage with simians.

The question is though,as stupid and offensive to some as his remarks were,were they said in private,if so,is this not a prime example of the new Thought Crime? A private remark,said off camera was enough to get Maggie Thatchers daughter fired from the BBC,I may hate her mum but Carol seemed a nice enough bird and are thoughts or throw away comments more important than ones actions?

History / Who here lost out because of WW2? [9]

Interesting story Softsong. Ozi,a year or so ago during the course of my work I was in the home of an elderly Polish gent,as you'd expect I had a good chat with him. It turned out that although he was as Polish as Bigos he and his family had been considered as "ethnic Germans" ,quite ironic really as his Father had been killed in the first days of September during the battle of Bzura fighting the nazis. This old fella,as a 15 year old boy had been forced to leave Poland in 45,had tried germany,hated it as he wasnt a german and ended up in Yorkshire eventually working in a coal mine and starting a large family here.

Just before this degenerates into the usual recriminations and counter recriminations I found this on another forum if anyone is interested. As a point of reference,the dodgy living conditions mentioned in the articale were not something exclusive to non natives,most people in the UK didnt have central heating in homes untill the late 70s.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7622866.stm

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]

repeat please,Repeat please.

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Big smelly underpants! The soviet union was in the midst of a civil war when Poland tried its luck at an eastward expansion.The army defeated on the banks of the vistula was hardly the same entity as the huge RKKA of the 1940s. Its laughable really how deluded some people are and how "facts" easily refuted by the rest of the world are constantly trotted out and amened by the mob.


Nuts, britains econamy had nothing to do with europe,it was tied in to its vast oversees territories and the commenwealth....but you keep telling yourself this guff if it keeps you happy.


Of being europes doormat for the last few hundred years?


lol,the usual twisting going on.....lets see,your response,so,first off the Poles were not allies? and then..plenty of allied service personel were in Poland,just watch The Great Escape,or alternativly lets see how far the Home Army would have got without the sacrifice of Allied aircrews,or maybe read accounts like Red runs the Vistula, a Brit in the Warsaw AK..... Not to mention you completly ignore the reference to Axis accounts,but hey ho,selective memory is it seems a national trait ....


why not the stress on the word INITIALY? Oh yes,wouldnt play with the usual half truths and woe is me pity party that some Poles wish the world to throw for them...


Oh really,so the Warsaw Pact is a forty year old myth then is it?


Really,why? And if this is true I rather think the shame lies with the Dutch Government.


I wouldnt know what happened to General Sosobowski later in his life,what I do know is that most Doctors who had served in 1stPolish airborne worked as Family Doctors in my county in England,one of them was a neighbour of mine for a time and let me tell you he was respected and rather well off financialy,I guess you make your way in this life how the cards are delt,for every sad tale of failure re post war Poles you have a tale of succes,the Polish RAF Air vice Marshal,the first forgein born person to rise to that rank etc etc...


I know all about "second front" mate, Im just simplyfying the situation to the leval some of these dummies may have a chance of following.

BTW guys,give up,while Im writing this The Battle of Britain is on TV :)" look here,stop that Polish chit chat! " :)

History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]


Oops,you missed the irony,there really should be an emoticon for that :) Simply a comment on the fact that people still feel the need to wring apologies out of people born decades after events took place. The alternative,extreme loony left view would be ,yes,you should apologies to the natives,after all,colonisation of someone elses country is just as bad 150 years after the first wave isnt it? ;)

News / Poland..wake up to a multicultural world [1059]


dumbass ,Picket charged up towards the seminary,not little roundtop,that was the other side of the battlefeild,incidently Picket's was one of only 3 brigades involved in "Picket's charge"....oh boy,you really DONT know your own history do ya boy.

Torq,if you liked Gettysburg(the movie) find a copy of Gods and Generels, its based on a book by the same author and is a kind of prequel to Gettysberg, very talky, and rather dry,most of the dialogue seems to come straight from peoples diaries or letters and comes across as a bit stillted but its worth a look. Nunchuka or whatever your called,Id suggest going to your local 2nd grade history class or maybe buy the "Big Bumper coloring book of the civil war"......

History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]


The "blackfellas" ? ;)

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Correct, on 22 june 41 the soviet forces were under express orders not to provoke the germans on the borders.In fact the border regions were stripped to a minimum . and a hupe proportion of the RKKA was in the soviet far east preparing for an expected Japanese attack.

UK, Ireland / Poles flee N. Irleand homes after World Cup riots [70]


Thanks for that clarification. What really surprises me though,sitting here in Yorkshire,is how the Polish,presumably "catholic" families were welcomed into the "loyalist" communities in the first place. I know times are changing but this must have been seen by many in NI as a recipe for trouble .Maybe there was an element also of some sort of behind the scenes social enginering experiment less likely to spill out to the wider community by way of reprisals if things went wrong. Or am I just cynical after 30 odd years of Bloody Sunday cover ups .

UK, Ireland / Poles flee N. Irleand homes after World Cup riots [70]


Sort of what I was thinking,I know a lot of Polish people I actually know (in rl not on here)had this bizzare hazy idea of what was what in NI. Im sure most didnt even know there was a native protestent Irish populataion they seemed to see the "troubles" as some romantic IRA (= AK ) fighting the evil Brit occupying army(=nazis/soviets) episode,not a complex multi sided civil conflict with roots that dates back further than the birth of Poland as a nation and I mean the first time not 1918 or the 18th C..

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


Im TT, took the pledge years ago fella.


exactly,what are you doing here then Yank?

History / An apology to Poland from Australia [55]

For a reason behind this,a real reason,not some whingey jingoistic guff as spread by some just google "Galipoli"


No,the austrailian soldier felt the british OFFICERS were inferior,relations between the diggers and the poms were fantastic in the Far East where they often but not always worked in mixed units. But hey,who on Polish forums is interested in the war in the Pacific seeing as no Polish forces turned up for that show or made any attempt to defend their allies Australia against the Japs.....

UK, Ireland / Poles flee N. Irleand homes after World Cup riots [70]


So why move to an orange area of belfast fer feck sake then?
What was the logic behind that decision in the first place ,
" Im from a 96% roman catholic country,Im going to move to NI,a country I must know has been divided between catholic and protostent irish for centuries ,I think I read somewhere that the two people live in totally seperate parts of the city,seperated by huge concrete walls because there is a fragile peace at the minute which could spill to violance at any time.It might be a good idea to consider very carefully where I shall move my family to considering the tensions and history of this place make the whole arab isreali thing look simple ."

or was it more likely,arrive in Belfast,
" Oh,I like the pretty orange colour on those pavements,lets move the kids here,oh look dear,a pretty big red hand with a mini AK 47 painted on the wall,I wonder if its a Banksey?"

UK, Ireland / POLES SUPERIOR TO BRITS? [260]


very rarely Im afraid.......Seeing as at least half of the people in this debate who are stating the Soviets would have defeated the germans without Uncle Sams "help" were born and raised in Western Europe,ie NATO, I think its you who fails to understand things old bean.


HHmmm,read again fella, I suggest its you and freebird hooked upto a moonshine drip :) He may have meant just what you said,but he missed the point that the people he claimed lived under communism in the 8os did infact live in the free west....