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Joined: 10 May 2007 / Male ♂ 		Last Post: 1 Jun 2024
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Posts: Total: 1298 / In This Archive: 856 		From: Moscow(Russia)
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Interests: History of Late Ancient World, Tragedie Lyrique (J.B.Lully)

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ConstantineK   
26 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

ConstantineK wrote:
Are you joking? The city was renamed not in 2003, but after the stalin death....Well, it's a monsterous lack of knowledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
ConstantineK do you think the city should be called Tsaritsin again?

It's not a political aspect. I know, that for your ears, Tsaritsin sounds like a name honored Tsar, but you are wrong, it was named so because of river Tsaritsa flowed through tht city. This river was very pleasant, and in according with russian language, the world butiful has a sinonim Tsarskiy, so it was nemed Tsaritsa.

In this case Tsaritsin and Volgograd are both equal.
ConstantineK   
26 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

isthatu wrote:
why there is a city called Volgagrad?
And find out who built the city.

It's rather old city, almost about 16 cent. Before and after revolution it was called Tsaritsin, after that Stalingrad and now it is name is Volgograd, the city on Volga. BTW it's one of the lengthy cities in the world.

Not exactly, it is on the grass patch nearby, but you atill have got a valid point.

But it is, isn't it?

paczka wrote:
Not exactly, it is on the grass patch nearby, but you atill have got a valid point.
Can somebody help me out, whats it called or look like?

So, I regard it as declaration that your previous points of view were mistaken.

ConstantineK wrote:
I think you a just do not know, that there is a monument in the center of Moscow, just infront of KGB building, the monument ad honorem of all who had los their lives in Stalin's camps. Did you know this? I think no! Moreover, it stands on the place of the previous Dzerzhinsky's monument.

I am glad some find this fun.

Ha-ha 1:0, I am outscoring.

understood it was Pres. Putin that decided to bring back Stalin as a great military hero.Thanks for pointing out your point, it went right over my head

Unfortunately it show only one thing, that wester people know nothing about Russian castoms, history and life and created their mistaken opinion only by reading of jorrnalist's articals. But jornalist as usial are most contemptible, smattering, venal sort of people.

isthatu wrote:
Carol,if you really think Stalin has been a Russian icon for years can you please explain why there is a city called Volgagrad?

There were many discussions to rename the city, people of the city welcome this idea, and 24 out of 25 people from the city's parliament were for renaming in 2003. It's former name is already restored on couple of war monuments.

Are you joking? The city was renamed not in 2003, but after the stalin death....Well, it's a monsterous lack of knowledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

as to me I don't understand why today you are so self confident ... Geraly Russia have made several concessions for free (warm words) Do you remeber your opinions about embargo on Poland or Polish veto on Russia ?

My opinion is simple. We have a right to buy or not as the right to sell or not production. So if you want to sell your production on the russian market you should be polite and MUST obey all Russian demands, if not, come on there are alot of another states.

If your press will stop to yap on Russia, our relations will be very nice
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

No, I talk about our common ape's origin....BTW, do you have something against Mongolians? Are you racist?
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

I see here Stalin's logic of destruction of the enemy.

I suppose that it is not his logic, it's our heritage from out ancestor, DESTROY YOUR ENEMY AND GAIN HIS WOMAN
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

KGB headquarters to demand the restoration of a monument to its founder which jubilant crowds toppled in 1991.

We live in the free country and each citizen have a right to proclamate his opinion.

2002?! But it's 2008 now, but the monument still not erected, may it's time to forget this rumours?
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ConstantineK wrote:
Lets bleed them to death. Lets start new civil war in Russia!
Without a Trotsky how will it be won?

We have alot of such talents, it is so pitty that they werent totally destroed previusly
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Though Russia has suffered horribly from invaders, equally bad have been the enemies from within, and until it learns to resist their enticements, it is condemned to repeat the past.

Lets bleed them to death. Lets start new civil war in Russia! I think thatmany people in Poland would be very happy, but remember that they will be its first victims.
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

ConstantineK wrote:
Dzerzhinsky's monument
Yes that they keep saying they may put back up.

Blyat', opayt' oni, kto eto takie mificheskie oni?

Again "they", who is this...? I never hear that Putin had ever said that this monument should be demolished, and previous one should restored.
ConstantineK   
25 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

First, Pres. Putin might try the truth vs. putting Stalin in your childrens history books as some great hero. Stalin was a great killer. Second, stop with the lie's about the past treatment of Polish. Stalin's value of the people was nothing, his own people included. Third, Maybe a little sympathy for the past deads of killing so many. Monuments for the millions that lost their life's, family's, homes. Just for a few.

I think you a just do not know, that there is a monument in the center of Moscow, just infront of KGB building, the monument ad honorem of all who had los their lives in Stalin's camps. Did you know this? I think no! Moreover, it stands on the place of the previous Dzerzhinsky's monument.

Since you brough up money, I will ask you, why should Poland compensate the families from eastern Poland when it was Russia that took their homes and lives and I might add, Country?

Neverthless it's a question of money?
ConstantineK   
24 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

ConstantineK wrote:
And what we must do for it? I think to pay you compensation, isnt it?

;) no we must have normal realtionship that is all, say it was as it was and move forward

We have, isnt it? Now we can buy your meat, what do you want else?

ConstantineK wrote:
pay you compensation

This is not about money, this is about respect. Stop thinking Polish will be pushed under your carpets. We may have lost our country, but some of us did survive to speak out.

So, I dont understand what you want exactly. Do you want that our television always prays over polish issues? Well, may be you want to create an additional part in our constitution, concerning Poland and their citizens?
ConstantineK   
24 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

Yes, and there are some parts of history that are beautuiful and show the human growth. I may be affected because of personal events, yet as a human still be able to see the wrong in not showing remorse out of respect.

Time heals. I hardly can imagine that Greek, for example feels some discomfort toward Italians for total destruction of Macedonian state and fate of their king Perseus. It's just a historical fact. I think that you descendants will save only -ckiy from you, and you affected history will became just a fact too.

I am here to remind Russia they now must take responsability for the actions taken 1939-45 on Polish population.

And what we must do for it? I think to pay you compensation, isnt it?
ConstantineK   
24 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

If this bores you so, I can suggest not clicking on this link but going to another one. What bores one may have altered anothers history.

You are too affected. History is cold and insensible, but you want to blame and to judge. For example, after more then 60 years I can watch overe circumstanses of WWII with cold blood. May I advise you the same on the Polish history?
ConstantineK   
23 Jan 2008
News / Have the European media lost interest in Poland? [17]

Do you think the european media ever had eny interest for Poland apart from her scandals againsr Russia? You see, just Russia and Poland achieved some agreement, the interest immideately reduced.
ConstantineK   
23 Jan 2008
History / Poland - Russia Russians ready for discussion about history ? [105]

Histor - YES, but please only not Katyn, it's so tiresome. Let's try to choose another point in history were Russians killed Poles. It will be more productive.

Poles are extrimely fixed on the Katyn event, it is so bored
ConstantineK   
21 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

ConstantineK wrote:
Hence, I can judge church (Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant) almost imparthially.
I think that you have not proper knowledge to judge anybody.

But I can judge for myself and to express my decision. By the way, I had no intention to judge somebody, but organisation, and in contrast to private persons, the organisation always presents on the field of presumption of guilt.

For all kind of social revolutionaries it was always very easy to announce the end of Christianity. What they always failed is to propose realistic alternative. I have no intention to play the role of laboratory rat in their new social experiments. Their utopias already caused death of too many people.

Are you sincerely believer?
ConstantineK   
21 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Honestly, I am not even baptized, though of corse, as a Russian I have some preferences toward Orthodoxy. Hence, I can judge church (Catholic, Orthodox or Protestant) almost imparthially.

I can simplify my attitude toward all these branches as:

Catholics are too corupted
Orthodox are very inert or even sluggish
Protestants are too grabber and almost lifeless.

But IMHO the Christianity as whole represent an unpleseant view of old decomposing organism. His time and strength are exhausted.
ConstantineK   
21 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Constantin we are talking about JP2 not the whole Church. Like were talking about Stalin not Russia. Name me one death JP is responsible for?
To compare the pope with Stalin is STUPID in every sense of the word. Did you think someone was gonna eat the sh*t your trying to feed them.

Nobody compares personalities, sure JP was totally innocent. But the Catholic church may compet with Nazi or Communists in total quantity of murdered or may even outclass them all.

Not the same at all, and I doubt the figures you gave for Justinian are correct. Justinian was around 1500 years ago and it could be argued that what he did was for the greater good of Rome - anyway, who's calling him a hero. It's like comparing apples with oranges.

Well, ok if you disbelieve me, lets turn to more recent days. Ivan the Terrible (though it is wrong translation of his nickname), who was he? If you contend that he was just a maniac, you deny his contribution in reorganisation of Russian state. Or for example, how we will treat with sush person as Piter I, who cut heads of rebellions with his own hands? Nowbody in Russia idealizes the personality of these statemen, but in the same time all of us realise that their existance was necessary for Russian state.
ConstantineK   
21 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

isthatu wrote:
He did after all order the deaths of more soviet citizins than adolf ever did.....
yeah, he was so great.. least the pope didnt kill his own countrymen..

Oh my word!!! Yes, previous pope was awfuly holy, but the papacy as institution killed more peoples then Stalin and Hitler taken together.

I bet if it was one of your great grandparents or grand parents whom he killed
you would be singing a different tune. we all know we cant change the past. we
should move on from the past,, but we also need to come to our sense's with

Let me borther you with the historic example from the ancient times which I exactly know and adore. Perfectly known great Byzantine emperor Justinian I unleashed huge religion war on the territories of Syria and Egipt which had caused the death of millions of "heretics", thousands of cities and vilages were destroyed. But in the same time he restored for a while the rein of Romans over all extent of Roman provinces and defeated all barbarians. Who is he, tyrant or hero? The same situation with Stalin and Communists. After 1917 the whole Russian Empire was ruined by their own antagonisms, but Bolshevics could solve a great part of it and restore the soverenity of the state. That's why we not adore them but regard them as great peoples.
ConstantineK   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

No,just an everyday russian on the street type,genuinly interests me,is it a hark back to the days of being Big Man? Is it because stalin was efectivly a persona non grata since the 1950s so he is somehow detached from the memories of crumbling soviet power in the 80s ,like some sort of Rock Star he died before the dream got old? No one can doubt they guy was a lunatic,there cant be a family in russia who didnt lose someone to one of his round ups yet there seems a genuine harking back to him. Its almost like an abused child defending its guilty parent in court...really hard for an outsider to figure...

Oh I am very happy that you represent me like a common russian, though I think I am not in the same degree as you are not common anglo-sax. Sure, all Russians do not adore Stalin, I bet that new generation, who was born in 80th do not know who he was. But in the same time Russian central television permanently shows for nation new historic films about Stalin's repressions. For example, there was a film about life in Gulag on the base of the Shalamov's novells (though I think that you do not know who he was), also it was another fil based on Solzhenitsin's "GULAG archipelago". Thus, I dont understand, why do you have such thoughts that all Russians pray on Stalin's images in their peasants cottedges during long winter nights to the howlings of wolfs, under the light of torches?
ConstantineK   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

London last weekend; Trafalgar square taken over fir the russian winter festival,Moscow today Bbritish culture workers get arrested on jumped up charges........welcome to the 1980s part II

You are not right, or just represent Brittish point of view for common opinion.
Russia has their own legislative and if England whant to have any organisations in Russia, she must obey Russian Laws and registrate them in compliance with common Russian practice.
ConstantineK   
18 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

I have better definitions of great
men, and he isnt included in any of it.

And whom can you name among great men? Stop, I will try to guess; is it a common set of western glamourously pink heroes like John Paul II, Gandi, Mother Tereza and of course the chief of all oppresed Tibetans!!! Am I right?
ConstantineK   
17 Jan 2008
History / Poland-Russia: never-ending story? [1341]

Russia dumb as a HOE
Dont know any good contributions coming from Russia

Oh boy, never mind, You are from USA and in such way your lack of knowlage may be excused