News / Polish/German/Russian relations [304]


Huh?

That's the IRON CROSS!

Worlds most famous award for bravery!


You THINK you don't want my help...but uncle Bratwurst knows better! :)

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Nun ja...we have to be a bit cautios around them...historical reasons....you understand...*sighs*

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Nun ja...if you don't want to believe "such kind of books" then I can't help you...nobody really can.

And I repeat, it takes guts to look into the abyss, to accept, apologize and atone...Guts your people obviously don't have!

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daboos....

it's always the same mantra: The poor innocent but gallant Poles!
The bad were ALWAYS somebody else!

Repeated again and again ad nauseam....and then some wonder about the bad standing Poland has internationally because everybody knows better!

But don't despair...to break your myths you now have your very own Bratwurst Boy!

:)

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Another apology which won't wash:

"...What led to this awful pogrom? Some Poles claim that this was the result of a Communist secret police "provocation." However, Gross shows that claims of alleged Jewish ritual murder of Polish children incited the crowds to anti-Jewish violence, falsehoods that originated long before in the Middle Ages. It seems that Poles were prepared to employ any pretext to murder Jewish fellow citizens, no matter how seemingly absurd.

Gross makes a convincing case that Polish society at that time allowed for the murder of Jews as an acceptable action. He argues that such murders would never have occurred after the war if Poles hadn't been murdering Jews during the war, as he documented they had in Jedwabne and other towns. He suggests that large sectors of Polish society were complicit in the Nazi extermination of Polish Jewry, that many Poles expressed approval for Nazi genocide even as they opposed other Nazi policies, and that many Poles benefited from the genocide by plundering Jewish property. In his view, returning Jewish survivors posed a threat to Poles by reminding them of what they had done to Jews during the war...."

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Erm....having potatoe heads as government I really wouldn't mock to loud...really...

PS: Better ugly and respected from the world leaders than ridiculed and shunned like your ducks!

:)

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Another denier....not one incident....one of many!

"...Germany will never rise again."

ROFL

We did already you idiot! :)

"...you'll always belong to an inferior race "

Now what a Nazi-thing to say....tsk, tsk...bad Kruki!

"....Nothing any German or Germany has ever acomplished, or ever will accomplish will ever erase the shame and disgrace caused by the Germans of the World War Two generation...."

Coming from a Pole I think I won't lose sleep over that....:)

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I admit....I need help!

:)

But face it...without the enthusiastic help of their eastern neighbours the Einsatzgruppen would have never been able to kill as many Jews as they did.

They were after all only some thousand...often it were the natives who where glad and happy to help.
After the war of course anybody tried to forget quickly...now wanting to be on the "good" side again...not wanting to have anything to do with the "bad" Germans...becoming "Jew-lover" immdiately or resistance fighters and Anti-Nazis!

You know...it takes guts to admit a crime and to atone...In Berlin we have monuments in the middle of the town to remember. We Germans have those guts!

But you....and most other Easternes are still full of denial...not able to admit that you were guilty too...no guts at all! BAH

"...Nazis had been blamed for the 1941 Jedwabne massacre until last year when a new book published in New York indicated Poles may have been responsible for the deaths.

Now many Poles in Jedwabne are refusing to attend the unveiling ceremony as they insist it was Nazis who carried out the killings, and Jews are unhappy saying the memorial does not explicitly blame Poles for the deaths....

No official town or school delegations will attend the ceremony and the local Roman Catholic priest plans to stay at home...."

But telling ME to be ashamed! ...no guts at all....

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A Pole tells me I should be ashamed of my countries past??? A POLE???

Girl, come out into the real world....)
(Ever heard of Jedwabne or Kielce? Killing after the war returning Jews of fear of having to give back stolen belongings....it doesn't get much more shameful than that!

Are you "this kind" of Pole???
Read the books "Neighbours" or "Fear" from Jan Tomasz Gross to be ashamed of YOUR countries past)

"....Gross builds a meticulous case. He argues that this postwar persecution is "a smoking gun," which proves that during the war Poles not only acquiesced but, in many cases, actively assisted the Nazis in their persecution of the Jews. Had they been appalled by Germany's policies toward the Jews or tried to help the victims, Poles could never have engaged in such virulent anti-Semitism in the postwar period. Gross notes that when the Germans were trying to put down the Warsaw ghetto uprising, Poles-including children-not only cheered as Jewish snipers were spotted and killed but gleefully showed the Germans where Jews were hiding...."

Clean up your own backyard first please before you tell anybody else to be ashamed.

In my family all the men fighted, some died some survived and I'm damned proud of them!
They fighted as soldiers against other soldiers....to busy with the Red Army in Russia or the western allies in Normandy than to burn Jews alive like Poles did.

PS: Apropos Jedwabne....guess who got blamed for it?

"...A stone monument blaming Nazi and Gestapo soldiers for around 1,600 deaths in the area has already been removed."

Typically Poles...

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*snicker*

"2 jewish assasins set an ambush where hitler passes at miday everyday
they have everything,guns,bombs,panzerfausts,etc

it gets to 11.55 and 1 jew says to the other,get ready

it gets to 12.00 and no sign of hitler...

they mutter to themselves and by now its 12.10

until finally it gets to 12.20 and one of the jews says to the other "he is late,hope nothing has happened to him"

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*nods*

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Another one...LOL....it's so right:

A little boy and his father are listening to the Fuhrer's speech on the radio as Germany declares war on the USA. The boy asks his father where the USA is. The father takes down a globe and runs his hand across the USA, saying "All of this area of North America, son".

The boy looks at the globe and asks "and where is the British Empire?". The father indicates Britain, Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and India on the globe.

"I see", said the boy. "And where is Russia?" The father showed him the sprawling mass of the USSR on the globe. The boy's eyebrows furrowed with concentration.

"And where is Germany?", he asks. His father points at the area of central Europe where the Reich is located. The boy looks very concerned and says "Dad, has Hitler seen this?"

ROFL:

"A veteran Polish Spitfire pilot from WW2 was interviewed on the BBC.

BBC: Were you ever shot down during air combat?

Pole: Oh yes, a Fokker once shot my Spitfire to shreds, but I bailed out, and lived on to fight another day..

BBC: Was it a Focke-Wulf 190, one of the best German fighters ever produced?

Pole: Hell no, this Fokker was a Messersmidt.."

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Ja gut...Berg-Deutsche sind auch nich die erste Wahl für einen Preussen...aber die Bayern sind noch schlimmer! :)

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Now that is funny:

LOL

An English prisoner of war was held by the Germans. The Englishman was shot all over the place, and okay until one day when the German told him, "Englander, your arm is infected with gangrene we must cut it off."

The English prisoner said, "Well, okay, but could you drop it over England when you go bombing."

The German replied, "Ya, that vill not be a problem."

A few weeks later the German tells the Englishman that they have to cut his other arm off. The Englishman says, "Well, could drop it over England like you did last time."

"Ya, that will be done," says the German.

The next day the German tells him that they have to cut his leg off. Once again the Brit says, "Well, could you do the same as before."

The German replies, " ya."

The next the German tells him they have to cut his other leg. "Well," begins the Brit, "could you just..."

The German snapped, "No! We think you are trying to escape!."

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Austrians ARE Germans you dumb Polack!

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Russians holding your hands...LOL

Just accept it Greggie...Poles are the perpetual losers in Europe...
Even on the winning side in WWII you lost!

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Germany didn't need help for THAT...A Parade through Warschau:

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But never a true polish flag Greggie Boy...the same russian flag flew about your people for the next 50 years!

Without the allies holding the hands of the dumb Polaks you would have gone nowhere!

We took the whole world on...and this world needed 6 years to beat us!
We can still be proud....what does Poland have to show besides being the playground for the grown ups?

ROFL

"Q: What do you do if a Polak throws a hand-grenade at you?

A: Take the pin out and throw it back.

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Did you hear about the Polish Admiral who wanted to be burried at sea when he died?

Five sailors died digging his grave

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A Pole should be silent when people talk about warring!

LOL

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Think about that...a bunch of inexperienced 17 years old thrown into their first battles being called "the best troops in Normandy"...what does that say about the rest?

GB and Germany shouldn't have fighted each other in the first place...what a waste!

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Yup...Women and Children staying behind whereas the men fought across Europe in the Wehrmacht...chasing Tommies from Dunkirk and Narvik...licking their wounds till help comes!

And for the rest:

All the good about you comes from your predominant german genes, the mighty Angles, Saxons and Vikings!

Cheers! :)


Fact!

No western ally could have won against Germany on their own...they needed to gang up together to wear us down!
Nothing to be proud of!

The ONLY one a German will pay his respect to are the Russians!

You don't have to like them but respect them you must!

*bows*


Crap!

You never met the "hardcore" troops....Our best were all busy in Russia...you fighted against kids from the HJ or second rate units in france for rest and refittting.

Not everything with SS in the name was by 44 "elite"!

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Yes "MADE IN GERMANY", that label alone is selling!

"Made in Poland"...hmmm....no go....sorry :)

And why did you left out this:

"...He said: "Germany already has a positive international image with particular respect for its governance, economy ...."

tsk, tsk, tsk

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Some facts about "being respected" just for you Greg:

999today.com/travel/news/story/3821.html

Germany comes in second best world wide...can't see a trace of Poland...wonder why???

"...Anholt believes Germany will become a serious contender for the top spot in future NBIs.

He said: "Germany already has a positive international image with particular respect for its governance, economy and popular brands, such as Audi, Siemens, Braun and Volkswagen..."

Apropos East-Germany....Now Germany did it again...a second Wirtschaftswunder like after the war.

Do you know how the land around Dresden is called already? Saxony valley because of their growing number of high-tech firms!

Some eastern Länder are already ahead of some western Länder...:)

Lazy and stinking, right?

Sour grapes...so bitter and jealeous! I LOVE IT!

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Erm...compared to Poles even Woomps are more respected!

Right now whole Europe laughs about your potatoe heads...LOL

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Hey...it's not me who is hiding behind this war!
It's not me who is using what happened for all kinds of apologies for all what did go/does go/will further go wrong.

It's not me who uses another people still as a scapegoat for all problems Poles have.
It's not me who vote for a nutty government who uses hostility against the neighbour
as a means to cling to power.

We Germans have all reasons to be proud of what we achieved after the war and where we stand right now...rich, between the top nations, respected...we don't have to hide behind the war!

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Yeah...and look where the Brits are today...hasbeens stuck with lot's of Poles! :)


Sub humans???

ROFL


Even with only one ball he run you Poles over...what does it say about you?

You are so funny! :)

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Huh?

You are a bit mysterious here...

Why do you think Austrians wanted the Anschluß? Austrians are as german as Rhinelander, Bavarians or Prussians...what is your problem?

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What?

I didn't deny anything....the people you belong to defines your heritage.
And it is nothing you have influence over...you are born into it, you can't change it.

If a Pole decides to be German he must have grown up with german culture, german language, german customs...he must feel belonging to the german people even if he till now lived in Poland under polish rule.

The same goes also for the other way around...so cases like Manstein or Anders are not rar as the borders between our countries switched often.

Life / Can you think of any famous Polish personalities? [147]

Either you are German or Polish...it's not a matter of choosing like religion or a party...

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Okay...let's see:

Kopernikus was born in the Hanse town Thorn which was shortly before still german.
His mother was german. His uncle was the Bishop from Ermland (german).
His grand-grandfather came from Koppernigk/lower Silesia.

(Koppernigk = Kopernikus)

He used at home and at work german and latin.
He died in Frauenburg.

AND WHAT EXACTLY MAKES HIM POLISH???

>>"he damage the German people have done to the world will always outweigh the potential good they will do, and all the beauty they have done or will do will always be marred by what one despicable generation did"<<

ROFL

Look around you...try never to read a book written by a German, try never to listen to music composed by a German, try never to use a machine invented by Germans...TRY!

:)