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Poland and Hungary in September 1939


Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,019  
13 Jul 2009 /  #61
I said Poland had Slovakia as a vassal...
It was Polands, doesn't mean Polish then you know?
Like Warschau was sometimes Germany's but was it German?

Don't mix things here I have never said Slovakia to be Polish
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
13 Jul 2009 /  #62
Well...lot's of people with interest in european history know about it. (It's where our flag colors stem from for example).

But you are ignorant as you admitted. You know nothing about Germany but Nazi, Beer and Oktoberfest.
So excuse me if I don't believe you when you talk about such things as "eternal friendships" between whole countries.
How can you believe the relationship between Poland and Hungary is something special if you don't even know the history of other european countries????

History is so not your strong suit!
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,019  
13 Jul 2009 /  #63
Ehrm
I know you want me to look bad, but that's a bit over the edge
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
13 Jul 2009 /  #64
Ehrm

Yes...ignorant with no idea of history or culture.
Dream on your dream of "eternal friendship"...who cares!
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,019  
13 Jul 2009 /  #65
I know history of Germany (Also Prussia)
It's not my dream it's reality

I am no Germanophile but im not that stupid as you want me to be
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
13 Jul 2009 /  #66
I am no Germanophile but im not that stupid as you want me to be

Well...I only react to the image you present here.

I'm outta here...who am I to disturb your and others nice illusions!

*takes helmet, closes door behind him*
Borrka 37 | 594  
13 Jul 2009 /  #67
uprisings against the commies in Berlin and Budapest

You dare to compare Budapest 1956 and and some ... hmm ... disorder in the Kremlin's most favorite "zone" ?
And now it's even called uprising LOL ?

Get real BB !
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
13 Jul 2009 /  #68
/wiki/Uprising_of_1953_in_East_Germany

...According to the West German Ministry for Inter-German affairs in 1966, 383 people were killed in the uprising, including 116 "functionaries of the SED regime", 106 people were executed under martial law or later condemned to death, 1,838 injured, and 5,100 arrested, 1,200 of these later being sentenced to a total of 6,000 years in penal camps....

Yeah...I forgot...only slavic/polish uprisings are the real stuff, only they "count"! Sorry...someone should tell the victims!

Man you s*uck so much Borrka, what a disgusting creature you are!
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2,019  
13 Jul 2009 /  #69
*Takes a glass of water and starts moaning about BB's tactical reteat*

Dang can't you people see that I try to debate not win/lose
Borrka 37 | 594  
13 Jul 2009 /  #70
only slavic/polish uprisings are the real stuff, only they "count"

Are Hungarians Slavonic ?!
A new achievement of German scientists ?

Even comparing the bloody Budapest revolt with Berlin riots is disgusting.
But it's just the way German mythology works.

an you s*uck so much Borrka, what a disgusting creature you are!

No need to thank me, BB.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
13 Jul 2009 /  #71
Even comparing the bloody Budapest revolt with Berlin riots is disgusting.

no comment

I just hope it stays to see for all...for a long time!
porzeczka - | 102  
14 Jul 2009 /  #72
Unfortunately, I can't post these pictures.
1jola 14 | 1,879  
14 Jul 2009 /  #73
/wiki/Uprising_of_1953_in_East_Germany

In total, around 16 Soviet divisions with 20,000 soldiers as well as 8,000 Kasernierte Volkspolizei members were committed.

In case someone has read this, 16 divisions is a huge force to pacify civilians. That's 20,000 soldiers per division.

Why haven't I heard about this?

*feels dumb*
Harry  
14 Jul 2009 /  #74
Why haven't I heard about this?

*feels dumb*

Don't worry about it, you're certainly not the only one who hasn't heard about this!
southern 75 | 7,096  
14 Jul 2009 /  #75
Why haven't I heard about this?

Soviet soldiers were stationed constantly in DDR from 1948 while they appeared in CR only in 1968 (to stay for 20 years) and never in Poland.So the suppresion in DDR was an internal affair.
OP Torq  
14 Jul 2009 /  #76
Soviet soldiers were stationed constantly in DDR from 1948 while they appeared in CR only in 1968 (to stay for 20 years) and never in Poland.

Southern, did you just say that Soviet soldiers never appeared in Poland or am I reading your post wrong?
southern 75 | 7,096  
14 Jul 2009 /  #77
did you just say that Soviet soldiers never appeared in Poland

Sorry I mean they were about 60000,not more.In DDR there were 350000.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 12,082  
14 Jul 2009 /  #78
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Soviet_Forces_in_Germany

lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?frd/cstdy:@field(DOCID+gx0156)

...The westernmost and most formidable concentration of Soviet armed might outside the borders of the Soviet Union is the GSFG.
In 1987 this force of about 380,000 men, organized into 20 ground force divisions and one air army and stationed entirely in East Germany, was over twice the size of the NVA.

...
The importance that the Soviets attach to their position in East Germany is underscored by the disparity in size between the GSFG and the other Soviet groups of forces in Eastern Europe. The Northern Group of Forces in Poland, for instance, comprised three divisions, the Central Group of Forces in Czechoslovakia numbered six divisions, and the Southern Group of Forces in Hungary had four divisions. The other groups totaled slightly more than half the size of the GSFG. The GSFG dominated not only East Germany but also the rest of Eastern Europe, not to mention the image that it projected into Western Europe. In 1987 the GSFG, under the command of General Valerii Aleksandrovich Belikov, had its headquarters in the former Wehrmacht command center in Zossen-W├╝nsdorf, south of Berlin. ...

Bondi 4 | 142  
17 Jul 2009 /  #79
To add my two groszy: throughout history, different territories of different countries changed rule not only by military conquest but also peacefully through royal succession + marriages between dynasties. (Btw, the Habsburg dynasty ruled lots of the European land through marriages.) Poland, Czechia and Hungary also "shared" a few kings. :)

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