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Mass Grave in Malbork


HWPiel 1 | 64  
12 Jan 2009 /  #1
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479253,00.html

Another mass grave found, but this time the victims are German... look slike the work of the Red Army.

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wildrover 98 | 4,451  
12 Jan 2009 /  #2
I am sure there are many more under the soil of Poland , many that will never be discovered....
OP HWPiel 1 | 64  
12 Jan 2009 /  #3
Sadly I think you are right, wildrover.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
12 Jan 2009 /  #4
how do you know that it was RA. Did they lay their calling cards?
OP HWPiel 1 | 64  
12 Jan 2009 /  #5
The article infers the Red Army committed this act.

From reading this article I'd say the Soviets did it, pretty obvious - ehh comrade? ; ) I am curious, who do you think committed this act, the Poles? The Jews?! George W. Bush?!?!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 13,204  
12 Jan 2009 /  #6
"These people died in such an inhuman way, were dumped so inhumanely, that we need to bury them in dignity and respect," Szwedowski said.

Thank you
Lotnik767 3 | 145  
12 Jan 2009 /  #7
Red Army killed millions and millions of people and so did Germany!! But this acct is for sure Russian!!
Prince 15 | 590  
12 Jan 2009 /  #8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_war_crimes

Soviet war crimes refer to alleged serious crimes committed by the Red Army's (1918-1946, later Soviet Army) leadership and members of the Soviet armed forces from 1919 to 1990, including those in Eastern Europe late in World War II, especially murder and rape. No international court or Soviet / Russian tribunal has ever charged any member of the Red Army with war crimes.

ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
12 Jan 2009 /  #9
For sure? The only fact is obvious, that poland began WWII provoking Germany by the act of aggression against some local german radio station near the border and killing all its personal. Only this fact is sufficiently obvious. Certainly you will ask me how do I know that it is a truth? I read it in articles.
Prince 15 | 590  
12 Jan 2009 /  #10
You are reliable source like Gazprom ;)
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
12 Jan 2009 /  #11
Even more, "Volkishe Beobahter"!
wildrover 98 | 4,451  
12 Jan 2009 /  #12
that poland began WWII

i never actually thought anyone believed that....Amazing..
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
12 Jan 2009 /  #13
But I never thought that somebody could believe that such highly civilized country like Germany could begin this fierce war. No doubts it was poland, and article in Volkishe Beobahter directly points on poland!
Davey 13 | 388  
12 Jan 2009 /  #14
LOL! Euthanization is considered highly civilized?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 13,204  
12 Jan 2009 /  #15
Before the war? Surely:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia#United_States
Davey 13 | 388  
12 Jan 2009 /  #16
Before the war? Surely:

You live in Germany your opinion is bias=P

And I think the mass killings by the Germans in WW2 must have been some of the most grotesque disgusting inhumane events eveer
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 13,204  
12 Jan 2009 /  #17
You live in Germany your opinion is bias=P

Erm...is that some kind of a joke???

I could also say "You live in Canada and that's why you are as dumb as an elk"!
Seanus 15 | 19,706  
12 Jan 2009 /  #18
Haven't we been through this? Still haven't buried the hatchet? Amazing
Harry  
12 Jan 2009 /  #19
That's Russians for you. And they still wonder why the rest of Europe considers them semi-civilised barbarians....
Davey 13 | 388  
12 Jan 2009 /  #20
Erm...is that some kind of a joke???

It was supposed to be lol
And people in general are dumb so I really don't take offense to that=)
but I'm sure there's a lot worse things I could say about Germans... but I like Germans so I won't
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161  
12 Jan 2009 /  #21
And they still wonder why the rest of Europe considers them semi-civilised barbarians....

And I wonder If you ever wonder why people consider you a disgusting creature.
Sasha 2 | 1,083  
13 Jan 2009 /  #22
That's Russians for you. And they still wonder why the rest of Europe considers them semi-civilised barbarians....

Have you ever smiled or been kind to any people?

Another mass grave found, but this time the victims are German... look slike the work of the Red Army.

Guess why there's no info about mass graves of Russians (or Soviets)? No I don't claim us to complain about the past... Complaint is the lot of a feeble.
OP HWPiel 1 | 64  
13 Jan 2009 /  #23
For sure? The only fact is obvious, that poland began WWII provoking Germany by the act of aggression against some local german radio station near the border and killing all its personal. Only this fact is sufficiently obvious. Certainly you will ask me how do I know that it is a truth? I read it in articles.

In America, there is an old saw that goes like, "... if it walks likes a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck - it's a duck." Now, I realize that America is not perfect and our history has some bad things in it like eminent domain with American Indians, the Civil War, racism, etc., but I can say with confidence and honesty the USA has not "purged" >50 million of our own people for the political gain of a tryannical leader du jour. Especially when those political systems continually seem to deny freedoms, control the masses with fear, and fail miserably. That being said, ConstantineK, are you really serious about the beginning of WW2?! If it is a joke, good one, you got me! If not, you are the model Soviet and Uncle Joe loves you... after killing your family for the better of the State, of course.

Here's another saw for you I read in an article, "... denial ain't a river in Egypt."
Cosmos 1 | 7  
13 Jan 2009 /  #24
Kind of off topic, but Its so bad that they are building a luxury hotel right next to the stunning castle of Malbork. I pass through there all the time and it amazes me the amount of horrible ugly modern buildings they are throwing up next to one of the most spectacular and historical sites in all of Poland. Arent there any planning laws to protect these sites ? I think people in the future are going to regret some of these reckless acts in the persuit of short term profits.
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
13 Jan 2009 /  #25
You said uncle Joe? Than re-address you accusations in "young democracy" Georgia please.
Harry  
13 Jan 2009 /  #26
And I wonder If you ever wonder why people consider you a disgusting creature.

As far as you are concerned, no, never. I don't give a flying fuck what you think.
OP HWPiel 1 | 64  
13 Jan 2009 /  #27
You said uncle Joe? Than re-address you accusations in "young democracy" Georgia please.

Georgia is a non-factor in this conversation; this conversation is about events during WW2. FWIW - Georgia was nothing but another stomping ground for Uncle Joe.

You failed to provide an answer too, so please, do you really think the Poles started WW2 with the attack on the German radio station?

=)

You said uncle Joe? Than re-address you accusations in "young democracy" Georgia please.

Georgia is a non-factor in this conversation; this conversation is about events during WW2. FWIW - Georgia was nothing but another stomping ground for Uncle Joe.

You failed to provide an answer too, so please, do you really think the Poles started WW2 with the attack on the German radio station?

=)
ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
13 Jan 2009 /  #28
The purges were organized by Stalin, he was georgian by birth and education, therefore russians have nothing with terror.

And certainly, I think that Poland began WWII along with mass killing at Katyn. They did it to accuse russians, because of polish permanent desire to be a victim or to look like one.
OP HWPiel 1 | 64  
13 Jan 2009 /  #29
Even though Gorbachev presented Wałesa with the documents from the former USSR... including the infamous "March 5, 1940 Memorandum" with Beria's and Stalin's signature ordering the liquidation of the Poles {collectively Katyń}... ???

Even though the beginning of WW2 was well documented in Goebbel's diary...???

I understand national pride, but as a historian I am offended by your ignorance.

Maybe you will be lucky enough to have another Stalin in your nation - and maybe they'll attack and purge Georgia (which recently almost happened), as it is inhabitated by too many ignorant sheep incapable of analytical or critical thinking - then again, thinking is not the Communist way.

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ConstantineK 26 | 1,259  
13 Jan 2009 /  #30
I believe in polish guilt regardless all above mentioned documents. I think that they were fabricated by polish intelligence in collaboration with British and US services and of course on Vatican's advice and warm assistance. BTW, I have some ground to think that all concentration camps were created by polish government in exile in britain as well.

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