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Salary and cost of living information - Krakow


jacekkaminski91 1 | 16
22 Dec 2016 #181
@Aksh30
If your partner/wife is also working then 20k is a very decent salary here Krakow.

Net it will be about 13.5k, which will give you enough spare to have a nice life here, given rent on top end apartment is around 3k per month,

Use this net pay calculator

calculla.com/salary_in_poland
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
22 Dec 2016 #182
if monthly 20,000PLN (gross) is enough to have a decent lifestyle in Krakow

Yes. Poles live with 3000 + 3000 = 6000 + 3000 your flat so you will be 5000 ahead
networkengineer 2 | 6
1 Mar 2017 #183
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I have offer need help



hi ,I have recieved offer from Krakow city ,gross 8000 PLN ,i am married have 5 month old baby ? What do you think ?
DominicB - | 2,707
1 Mar 2017 #184
@networkengineer

That's too little to support a family of three, pay for your relocation, and save up a significant amount of money. You would have to live a very frugal existence, one that will be especially tough on your wife and doesn't afford much financial security. Either leave the family at home, or, better yet, find a much better paying job, preferably in a richer country. Don't rely on recruiters and internet sites to find a job, but on your network of real-world professional and personal contacts. The best jobs are advertised solely by word of mouth, and recruiters and internet sites get the table scraps.

Forget about Poland and the other formerly communist countries of Europe, and concentrate on finding a job in a richer country where savings potential will be much higher.
DominicB - | 2,707
1 Mar 2017 #186
@networkengineer

Even so, it's not all that tempting. Your savings will still be minimal. On the order of 1000 PLN a month, barely enough for a minimal rainy-day fund, at best. More likely, you will tap into that money to improve your living standard rather than save it. Like I said, concentrate on building and exploiting your network of professional and personal contacts to find a better paying job in a richer country. This isn't the golden opportunity you are looking for.
networkengineer 2 | 6
1 Mar 2017 #187
Understand ,what about taxes ? is it 23 % ? 8000 -8000*23/100 =? 6160 PLN ?
DominicB - | 2,707
1 Mar 2017 #188
Yes, it is about 6000 PLN net, give or take.
aigerim - | 1
2 Mar 2017 #189
Hello, everyone!
My name's Aigerim :) I'm from Kazakhstan, Astana. I'm doing some research for my job. So I need your help. I need some information about polish teachers' salaries and benefits. May be someone can share with me with some info? Thanks a lot :)
terri 1 | 1,663
2 Mar 2017 #190
Polish teachers in public schools are woefully underpaid. There are so many variations to their pay, that it's impossible to give you precise information You can search on google for 'placa nauczycieli w Polsce'...
Robert.Cro
22 Jul 2017 #191
Hello everybody,

How much would be 8.000 gross per month net?
According to one on-line calculator it should be 5.640, is that correct?

Thank you!
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
23 Jul 2017 #192
Yes Sir, correct, 8000zl brutto = 5640zl netto. Don't you trust online calculators? :)
Aquarian
6 Sep 2017 #193
Hi
I have received an offer for 15000K NET PLN salary in Krakow, I have a family of my wife & a 3 year old kid
How much can i save? and what would happen if PoExit happens?
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #194
@Aquarian

You could live rather comfortably on 6000 to 7000 PLN a month for a family of three with a three year old, no car and no trips back to India. So you could potentially save up to 8000 PLN, if you keep your lifestyle modest. Add a car and trips back to India, and that number goes down significantly.

There is no danger of Polexit happening. That's just silly sabre rattling.
Nwabude - | 2
6 Sep 2017 #195
Can I find a part time work while studying in Poland , and in which Cities is possible ?
Which public university is better to study Mechanical Engineering in English language ?
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #196
@Nwabude

It's practically impossible. Make your plans on the very safe assumption that you will never be able to earn even a single penny during your stay in Poland. If you need to work to finance your studies and stay, then Poland is not the country for you.
jon357 74 | 22,054
6 Sep 2017 #197
Mechanical Engineering in English language

Stick to the biggest cities, Warsaw, Poznan, Gdansk, Wroclaw. Krakow has too many students - if you are thinking of looking for part-time work, that is the place with the most competition. Warsaw, being the capital, is the easiest, richest and most cosmopolitan city to be in.

It's practically impossible.

This has changed since you were here, especially in the capital.. Although decent student jobs are harder to find without a knowledge of Polish, more and more possibilities do exist.
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #198
This has changed since you were here, especially in the capital..

No, they haven't. A Nigerian student who doesn't speak fluent Polish doesn't have a snowball's chance of finding a job anywhere in Poland. Even if the chances have doubled, that would mean two in a million instead of one in a million. But considering the recent flood of Ukrainians into the country, I'd bet that the chances for a Nigerian have actually gone down.

Encouraging naive, gullible and desperate third-world students to come to Poland on the extremely unlikely probability of finding employment is irresponsible and cruel. The chances are astronomically higher that they will be unable to finish their studies and will have squandered their parents' life savings in the process.

Poland is a lousy choice for third-world students who have to earn their keep, and will remain so for a very, very long time.

As for Warsaw being "cosmopolitan", far from it. Take out the Ukrainians and Vietnamese, and you're left with about 1% non-Polish residents.
jon357 74 | 22,054
6 Sep 2017 #199
A Nigerian student who doesn't speak fluent Polish doesn't have a snowball's chance of finding a job anywhere in Poland.

There are plenty of overseas stufents in Poland who work. You are out of date.

Poland is a lousy choice for third-world students who have to earn their keep,

You would be surprised. You mainly post here in order to deter people, especially from outside Europe, from moving to Poland for either work or study - I suggest people use the search function to confirm this. I also suggest they look at other online fora to read about the real experiences of people from their countries who are in Poland now.

As for Warsaw being "cosmopolitan", far from it. Take out the Ukrainians and Vietnamese, and you're left with about 1% non-Polish residents.

As I say, you're very out of date.
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #200
There are plenty of overseas stufents in Poland who work.

No, there aren't. There are very, very few indeed, if you don't count Ukrainians.

the real experiences of people from their countries who are in Poland now.

Are practically universally not being able to finish their studies because they cannot find work. What percentage do you think actually finish their studies?

If the OP were an experienced programmer with an exotic skill set, then maybe. Barring that, a snowball's chance, especially now that they have to compete with all those Ukrainians,
jon357 74 | 22,054
6 Sep 2017 #201
No, there aren't.

Evidently you haven't been in Warsaw over the past couple of years.

Barring that, a snowball's chance,

There is more and more studenty work. The poster should join a forum for students at the institution he plans to go to - in order to speak with people who are studting there now. That's more useful than listening to a guy from America who doesn't live in Poland.
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #202
Evidently you haven't been in Warsaw over the past couple of years.

You're full of baloney. If you don't have a job to offer this guy yourself, your promise is empty, and you are just being cruel.
cms 9 | 1,255
6 Sep 2017 #203
There are many foreign students working in Warsaw - and there are many opportunities now where Polish is not required - there are significant ssc and back office operations in Warsaw and every other big town in Poland.

Not saying it's a good thing to exploit 3rd world student labor - I think it should be far more regulated. Just pointing out what the real situation is
Dirk diggler 10 | 4,585
6 Sep 2017 #204
Idk what percentage but id say there's tens of thousands foreign residents in Warsaw. In wroclaw maybe 7 8k but that number easily goes up to 130k 140k if we included ukranians. This study below is looking at 'residents' but imo the amount of foreigners coming through warsaw is far larger. Even wroclaw has a ton of foreigners from all over but yes most are tourists although each year more and more study and work. Especially from India China Korea I've noticed lately..

According to wiki estimates of foreign born people in Warsaw range from as lil as 21k to as high as 60k and up to 150k as of 2016. Again tho imo ukranians undoubtedly make up the majority. So roughly 1.2 to 8.5% of Warsaw is foreign

2016 report

warszawa.onet.pl/ilu-jest-cudzoziemcow-w-warszawie-powstal-specjalny-raport/tx0znb
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #205
There are many foreign students working in Warsaw

No, there are not "many", no matter how you define "many". Any job that a Nigerian can do is going to be swiped up by the Ukrainians in a blink of the eye. Or even by native Polish students. Are you seriously encouraging this Nigerian student to come to Poland on the extremely remote chance that he might, maybe, perhaps, find a job, squandering his family's life savings in the process? His chances of getting eaten by a shark or getting struck by lightning are much, much higher.
jon357 74 | 22,054
6 Sep 2017 #206
Idk what percentage but id say there's tens of thousands foreign residents in Warsaw

The number is growing fast, especially over the past couple of years.

There are many foreign students working in Warsaw - and there are many opportunities now where Polish is not required

This is true. There are also more opportunities for studenty type jobs.

I would however suggest Warsaw rather than Krakow. There are more opportunities there, less competition, and the cost of living is much the same.
cms 9 | 1,255
6 Sep 2017 #207
not sure when you were last in Warsaw Dom but my guess is there could be about 5000 foreign students working there. I am guessing shark deaths worldwide is probably a few hundred a year.

In my hotel there is a black waiter at breakfast (he speaks ok Polish), one black maid, one of the the receptionists is from Minsk, most of the cleaners from Moldova, the pool attendants I think from Ukraine and a barmaid from Italy. If I was Polish ultra I would post a photo here to prove it.

I'm not encouraging the guy to do anything - merely answering his question, presumably he is a grown up and can make his own choices in life.
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #208
there could be about 5000 foreign students working there

Of which 2 are Nigerian, 200 are Vietnamese, and 4700 are Ukrainian, Russian, Belorusan or EU nationals.

In other words, the chances of a Nigerian student finding work in Warsaw are only microscopically higher than him getting eaten by a shark.... in Warsaw.
jon357 74 | 22,054
6 Sep 2017 #209
not sure when you were last in Warsaw Dom but my guess is there could be about 5000 foreign students working there.

At least. Many are from India and Africa.

not sure when you were last in Warsaw Dom

Several years ago.

presumably he is a grown up and can make his own choices in life.

Quite. And he'd do well to speak to actual current overseas students in Poland - there are fora for this - rather than some ordinary Joe in America who hasn't been here for several years.
DominicB - | 2,707
6 Sep 2017 #210
Better than some bull$hitter who seems to get perverse pleasure out of seeing poor third-worlders' lives ruined. Your advice is totally irresponsible. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.


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