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RELOCATING TO GDYNIA, Poland - salary question


Lemy  
23 Oct 2013  #1

Hello,

I am working in Athens,Greece and my salary here is 800€.I pay for my house/bills 250-300 € per month.I had an offer for a job in Gdynia/Poland for a known multinational company and the salary is 4500 pln gross.I guess this is about 3200pln net.The company seems to have room for growth and many benefits for its employees.

I am willing to relocate and to leave Greece because of the current situation and because I would like a new experience.Unfortunately,in my current job there is no room for growth.

However,I wonder how life is in Gdynia and if the above salary could be one of the reasons to leave my job and country.

smurf Activity: 40 / 2,038
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23 Oct 2013  #2

about 3200pln net

sh!te money, wouldn't bother if I was you, unless you can negotiate for around 5000zl after tax.
OP Lemy  
23 Oct 2013  #3

I'm not sure I understood your answer,I'm sorry
You think it's worth the relocation or not?
johnb121 Activity: 4 / 184
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23 Oct 2013  #4

What Smurf was saying is that it is NOT good money. Costs in Poland are not hgh compared with, for example, Germany or the UK, but they're not THAT low, either, that you could be comfortable and save a little on 3,200PLN per month
cjj Activity: - / 281
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23 Oct 2013  #5

It all depends.
If you're young and single .. well-educated ... and looking to have some experience on your CV ... and ...
then it might be worth the try
otherwise, not worth the effort and the winters for that salary.
/cj
OP Lemy  
23 Oct 2013  #6

Ok thanks-So I will try to negitiate for 5800-6000 gross.
smurf Activity: 40 / 2,038
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23 Oct 2013  #7

I'm not sure I understood your answer

You don't understand the words 'sh!t money'?

OK, try again, no do not relocate for that awful salary. I'd be insulted if someone offered me such a low wage.
Monitor Activity: 14 / 1,833
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23 Oct 2013  #8

Ok thanks-So I will try to negitiate for 5800-6000 gross.

It doesn't work like that. Poland is not a rich country, so you cannot simply get whatever salary.

If you get 800eur net in Athens, then it's 3341PLN and in Gdańsk you will get 3201PLN. You will move to the city with much worse weather and less beautiful than Athens.

Decide yourself weather it has sense by looking at this page:

It's Gdańsk here, because of no data for Gdynia, but it's the same agglomeration, so only apartment prices should be little lower in Gdynia.

About salary. Average for Poland is around 4000PLN gross, for big cities perhaps 5000PLN. Most of people earn less than average.

Greece was much more expensive than Poland few years ago, but now because of the crisis renting and restaurant prices are comparable to Poland. You will pay in Poland less for grocery (in Greece they cost more than in Germany), going out to the pub, restaurant. Public transport is cheaper.

If you're not an programmer then probably the job is some call center. You should decide yourself if it's any better from what you do there in Greece. Any surplus which you theoretically save in Gdynia you will spend for tickets to Greece.
OP Lemy  
23 Oct 2013  #9

W o w !
I suggest that you take a relaxing shower or sth but definitely anything relaxing!
Calm down.
Thanks though
Harry Activity: 65 / 13,508
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23 Oct 2013  #10

no do not relocate for that awful salary.

I moved to Warsaw when somebody offered me that much. Although that was 16 years ago and for some reason no tax was deducted from my salary (possibly due to me being paid in cash, dollars to be exact, and the company being less than willing to get me a work permit).
OP Lemy  
23 Oct 2013  #11

If you're not an programmer then probably the job is some call center. You should decide yourself if it's any better from what you do there in Greece

Actually I am something like a call center know with few data analysis but this job is data analyst and the reason why I am not sure of rejecting it is because I think I will get good professional experience for the future.
Monitor Activity: 14 / 1,833
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24 Oct 2013  #12

Then give it a try. You will not be financially worse than in Greece and living in a different country is great experience. Perhaps you can negotiate at least 5000 gross or relocation bonus.

For salaries look at this report: tiny.cc/hays-pdf starting from page 19. Look at Woj. Pomorskie (it's region where Gdynia is). "Najczęściej oferowane" means median. Call Center Agent with foreign language is only 3000 gross. But if you fit into some job from page 21 then pay is much better. You can relate to this report while speaking with your company. It's from 2011, so now it should be little bit higher.
smurf Activity: 40 / 2,038
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24 Oct 2013  #13

Although that was 16 years ago

I bet this place was mad back in the early days of capitalism ;)
delphiandomine Activity: 56 / 14,765
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24 Oct 2013  #15

I bet this place was mad back in the early days of capitalism ;)

It's what I constantly interrogate Harry about!

Hasn't Sobieski been here since 1989 on and off, too? 1990 in Poland would've been an interesting place...
beaver  
24 Oct 2013  #16

Monitor
Are you kidding me hahaha....average salary is 1200zl net,where the hell you get these information?
jon357 Activity: 53 / 10,844
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24 Oct 2013  #17

WTF? It's several times that: wynagrodzenia.pl/dane_gus.php
Zibi Activity: - / 336
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24 Oct 2013  #18

1990 in Poland would've been an interesting place...

Perhaps for a visitor it was. Come to think of it.... we live in paradise now, by comparison.
beaver  
24 Oct 2013  #19

WTF? It's several times that wynagrodzenia .pl/dane_gus.php

hahaha BRUTTO,that means you get 1200zł per month netto salary. Don't be ridicules
Monitor Activity: 14 / 1,833
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24 Oct 2013  #20

troll, I exactly specified that it's gross, so if you mix it with net, then it's your problem. Here is 3 years old salaries distribution graph:

img.sadistic.pl/pics/fd4f5724b008.png
beaver  
24 Oct 2013  #21

You guys don't make Greek out of me I know what are the salaries.In bigger cities like Warsaw, Gdańsk , Poznań,Kraków it's around 2,500zł netto.In every other city is around 1700zl-1200zl but majority have 1200zł.I would tell you Lemy:Take that job! 3000zł per month nett is good for one guy.Of course if you buy in biedronka market ^^ "I będziesz stał jak górnik" xd
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24 Oct 2013  #22

money.pl/podatki/kalkulatory/plac

the UI is a bit startling, but this site is useful for moving between netto and brutto salaries
smurf Activity: 40 / 2,038
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24 Oct 2013  #23

in bigger cities like Warsaw, Gdańsk , Poznań,Kraków it's around 2,500zł netto.In every other city is around 1700zl-1200zl but majority have 1200zł

That simply isn't true.

bad day?

Considering how much time you seem to have on your hands you would think that you would have read the last sentence.
I survived, but it was crap money and I had my missus to help.
Awful offer, so it is. To tell him it isn't is doing the chap a disservice.
Plus that other poster was single and had totally different circumstances.
Quoting me out of context from another thread is quite idiotic in fairness.

1990 in Poland would've been an interesting place

Reckon a lot of money could've been made then.
Monitor Activity: 14 / 1,833
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25 Oct 2013  #24

There is new report about outsourcing in Poland. I paste here information about salaries:

Salaries in the Business Services Sector (*) Gross monthly salaries in EUR Poland
F&A Processes, Accounts Payable / Accounts Receivable
Junior Associate (0 - 1 year of exp.) 575 675 850
Associate (1 - 2 years of exp.) 725 900 1100
Team Leader (5 - 15 FTEs) 1575 1800 2225
F&A Processes, General Ledger
Junior Accountant (1 - 2 years of exp.) 675 850 1150
Accountant (2 - 3 years of exp.) 950 1200 1375
Team Leader (5 - 15 FTEs) 1675 2000 2475
CS Processes
Junior Specialist (no previous exp.) 575 725 850
Specialist (1+ years of exp.) 725 900 1000
Team Leader (5 - 15 FTEs) 1425 1750 1950
IT Processes
1st Line Support (0 - 1 year of exp.) 675 850 1050
2nd Line Support 1050 1375 1800
Team Leader (5 - 15 FTEs) 1675 2000 2375
Managerial level
Process Manager 2400 3300 4300
SSC / BPO Director 6000 8400 12000

Source: Hays Specialist Recruitment 2013; Exchange rate: 1 EUR = 4.21 PLN;
Note: (*) Salary levels are only applicable to those with English language skills

tiny.cc/outsourcing-pdf (page 6)
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22 Feb 2014  #25

Merged: Relocating to Gdynia | Salary | Taxes | Cost of living?

Hi Members,

I am planning to relocate to Gdynia. I find this forum and saw many useful post with similar discussion. I have few more questions and would be very helpful for me if this can be answered by members.

1. My office is in Gdynia, is it different from Gdansk?
2. As per Indian standards my salary is above average for an experience of around 9 years as IT / Financial Consultant. Could you please guide me what should I expect (Gross / Net) for this profile and experience in Gdynia?

3. My wife is a software engineer in India, will it be possible for her to get a job in Gdynia?
4. What is cost of living in Gdynia?
- House Rent (1 BHK / 2 BHK)
- Groceries
- Fortnightly visit to near by places (I love traveling and site seings :) )
- Bills (electricity, internet, mobile)

This information will help me in negotiating with my employer.

Looking forward to meet some of the members personally staying in Gdynia :)

Cheers,
Gourav Kandari
Willler  
17 May 2015  #26

Merged: Relocating to Gdansk

Hi there.
I am young guy from Eastern Europe who is willing to relocate and leave his comfort zone.
After a long job search, I got an offer in Gdansk (but let's don' talk about the money)
I am just curious about the city. Does it anyhow is similar to Western cities (London, Berlin and etc)? Would you recommend it? Does it have normal social live?

Just state out your opinion. Thanks!
Google  
1 Feb 2016  #27

Gdansk & Gdynia r 20 km away.
This and the rest off the answers, u can find in Google. :)
kabir1989  
9 Jan 2017  #28

Merged:

Planning to move Gdynia Poland from India



Hi,
I am planning to move Gdynia Poland, Can anyone suggest how much salary should i ask (gross or net). I'll move with my wife.
DominicB Activity: - / 1,506
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9 Jan 2017  #29

@kabir1989

Well, considering that you have provided no useful information about your skill set, no one can. There are lots and lots of threads on this forum about salary expectations and cost of living, so use the search function to find them.
peter_olsztyn Activity: 5 / 993
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14 Jan 2017  #30

I am planning to move Gdynia Poland

Gdynia is so beautiful that people have to pay employers for living there ;)

5000zl netto minimum.



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