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What qualifications are needed for English teachers in Poland?


zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #31
oh. wait, wait, let me guess what happened, they guy installed the wires backwards, and it short-circuited, and burned the building down, so they learned to offer a better wage next time? :)

well he was frequently complaining that he can't find proper candidates because of low wages. So it seems the companies don;t learn.
Low wages are the common problem.

Btw. what is your current work in the USA?
OP ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
13 Nov 2010 #32
Hard to answer your question

you should try us! :)
I'm seriously curious. You made a statement and I want to know what you meant.

I manage an HR department. It's kind of fun. Legal compliance, performance management, employee relations, benefits, some administration, and recruiting. Really great if you like people. (How funny your brother is a recruiter, too!)

Not that our company offers the most money, in the first place, but if I can show a. a salary market survey to a VP and b. tell him, you can get this Crappy Joe for $, or Awesome Pete for $$$, they usually get the point.

If we need someone just for some short-term project work, we won't pay a lot, but if we need someone who has certain specialized skills and we need them long-term, and we don't want them to come work for us, get trained and figure stuff out, and then leave and go work for a competitor, then we'd offer them something competitive. It's all like buying shoes, if you need cheap shoes, you buy cheap shoes. If you want shoes that look good and need them to last for more than one season, you spend more money (can you tell i'm into shoes?...)

What do you do?
zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #33
What do you do?

I'm a student.
Lyzko
13 Nov 2010 #34
??? I have no brother, at least of whom I'm aware. Perhaps you meant someone else here at PF)))

To Zetigrek: Jestem tłumaczem i właścicielem agentury tu w Nowym Jorku. Także nauczę jęzka angielskiego i niemieckigo dla cudoziemców.

To ItsAllABoutMe: The quality of life has become increasingly hostile to those of us post-War babies (born in 1959) who grew up in the shadow of the New Deal.
zetigrek
13 Nov 2010 #35
??? I have no brother, at least of whom I'm aware. Perhaps you meant someone else here at PF)))

she means me.

To Zetigrek: Jestem tłumaczem i właścicielem agentury tu w Nowym Jorku. Także nauczę jęzka angielskiego i niemieckigo dla cudoziemców.

Tyle, że tak właściwie ja pytałam się o to ItsAllAboutME, a nie Ciebie... ;DDD
OP ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
13 Nov 2010 #36
I meant Z's brother.

TO Z:
may I ask what you major in?

TO L:

The quality of life has become increasingly hostile.

where do you live? you should come to TX :)

anyway, why do you say so? personally, most of the contact I have with baby-boomers is with people at work, and even though I do see they differ from other generations in attitudes and opinions about many things (particularly they don't like to be managed by people my age!) I would say they've seen enough social and cultural changes in their lifetime not to get flustered by stupid stuff these days, particularly when they're about to buy that condo in FL and jump on that golf cart!
Lyzko
13 Nov 2010 #37
Regrettably, as the gap between rich and poor widens even more, America will resemble the pre-Roosevelt Era of a Dickens-style capitalism where only the Social Darwinists held sway. Is that the sort of country you want, friend?? If so, then join the Tea Partiers and hop on their band wagon of the 'Get-Rich-Quick-Or-Starve-On-Your-Own-Time' gravy express straight to hell!!!
OP ItsAllAboutME 3 | 270
13 Nov 2010 #38
I actually hate the tea party. Well, I don't hate them. They make good material for late-night comedy shows :)

that's some doom and gloom you're painting there, L. I'm telling you, you should move to TX and take it easy.

Granted, the middle class could be doing better here, but Dickens-style capitalism? That's just crazy talk, L. As I always say, it's a big country. You can find a lot of people way over the edge on either side, but in the end, only the morons and the suicidal are left on the fringe, smart and resourceful people find their way into comfortable life sooner than later, barring any wars and natural disasters.

Do you honestly believe that it's possible to one day stone 100+ million people who actually vote in this country into electing enough politicians at the same time (and not that I give much credit to politicians in general, but you have to agree you can't accuse them of lacking a survival instinct) to abolish Social Security, Medicare, and all the other New Deal stuff?
Lyzko
13 Nov 2010 #39
Hey man, millions of honest, decent-thinking Germans voted for Hitler when push came to shove. What's the diff.???
Lyzko
13 Nov 2010 #40
Those "smart and resilient" people have often found themselves besieged by low-wage immigrants hired on a tax break by greedy owners eager to make a fast buck off of somebody else's back. Sorry, it's not as simple as 'it's a big country..' Pre-Nazi Germany was a small country, yet the radical right seized power nevertheless. Yes, it could happen here!!!
Chicago Pollock 7 | 503
14 Nov 2010 #41
Now I ask you: Who was the better teacher??

the good looking babe.

Regrettably, as the gap between rich and poor widens even more, America will resemble the pre-Roosevelt Era of a Dickens-style capitalism where only the Social Darwinists held sway. Is that the sort of country you want, friend?? If so, then join the Tea Partiers and hop on their band wagon of the 'Get-Rich-Quick-Or-Starve-On-Your-Own-Time' gravy express straight to hell!!!

You shoulda stuck with the good looking babe, you'd have a better attitude about now.
Lyzko
14 Nov 2010 #42
... but would have remained spiritually and culturally impovrished, as with most everyone else. Funny, somebody else also said I should calm down, to which I replied, "Some people take Prozac, what's your drug du jour?" Ooops, that was my daughter who asked me-))))

SORRY, HON!
Bolle 1 | 146
14 Nov 2010 #43
ok, I promise I'll be nice - I would like to find out what qualifications or certifications one needs to have to be an English teacher in Poland. I'll be sincerely grateful for any serious replies.

A university degree is a minimum - many schools want teachers to have a CELTA as well. Since your husband is polish, you might find it easier to find ESL work without the CELTA.

Dont expect much from it.

The lifestyle of a typical ESL teacher in poland is much like a university student. Teaching english also gets boring rather quickly - my experience.

since you're from Texas, too, and I'm guessing must have some knowledge about how schools work in Poland.

She's a pole living in texas. I don't think she knows anything about teaching english in PL.

To be honest with you I sincerely don't advise you come back to Poland. Many people starts to miss "the old country" when they are too long abroad but when they come back they start to remind themselves why they moved out from Poland. They are not happy about their decission to return. Live in Poland is not so easy as in the USA. You must take it into consideration.

Spot on. Life in the US is much better in almost every aspect. If you don't have a good job in the US right now, then look into going back to school.

this is how it is. the best qualified gets a foot in the door and then is offered the smallest wage possible. if u don't accept it the next guy will.

This is what it's like for first timers. After you get some experience it can be better though.

However, you have one advantage - your husband is Polish. This will make it easier to find ESL work.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
14 Nov 2010 #44
Teaching english also gets boring rather quickly - my experience.

Only for those without an imagination.

I've just looked at my timetable tomorrow, and it includes two company directors, one lawyer and a meeting with an international group of people - among others. Boring? Not a chance - they're all such different, interesting people. Sure, I could do something else - but at this point in life, I'd like to meet as many interesting, different people as possible. I've no desire to spend all day stuck in front of a computer.

Of course, if you're only fit to teach Callan, then of course it'll be boring.
Bolle 1 | 146
14 Nov 2010 #45
Only for those without an imagination.

Well maybe you're new to teaching:) I did it for years and it started feeling like an assembly line summer job i once had back in high school. I've recently moved on (thank god!!) and found work in a company where i have more diverse tasks - and opportunities for different jobs within the company and beyond.

Of course, if you're only fit to teach Callan, then of course it'll be boring.

Callan is boring, but I only taught it for 2 months.
nikt
16 Nov 2010 #46
ItsAllAboutME

Hi there. Tell your husband to read this and translate it for you:

wiadomosci .onet .pl /kiosk/ kraj /tworca-gg-zmywak-to-mit-tez-mialem-wyjechac,1,3354956,wiadomosc. html

(I can't post a link so I made spaces)

It's quite fair description of life in Poland. Maybe he forgot how life in Poland look like but this article will give him a cold shoulder. Life in the USA is much better and secure.

give him a cold shoulder.

I mean cold shower... :)
Seanus 15 | 19,674
23 Nov 2010 #47
Sometimes it comes down to the practical needs of the school at that time rather than ensuring that minimum standards are met. Qualifications are not always genuine either ;)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
23 Nov 2010 #48
This is the thing - I'm convinced that 95% of schools in Poland are looking for the right face at the right time, rather than being worried about qualifications.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
23 Nov 2010 #49
I have reaffirmed that time and again due to some 'dubious' recruits. I've met some who are overly nomadic and schools here have to question their commitment to the cause. They just don't last or are between things, buying time.

So, qualification requirements are often relaxed due to prevailing circumstances.


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