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Is 12500 Gross is a good salary to relocate Krakow, Poland


Ghosh32
11 May 2017 #1
Dear All,
I am new to this Forum. I have gone through the complete chat and found it very useful. I got an Offer to work for a Company in Krawkow, Poland for 12500 PLN. I am from India and will relocate along with 2 Dependents ( Wife & 2 Years Old Daughter).

Company Provides below benefits.

Medical care coverage - for the employee and children
co-financing of activities connected with sport (Multisport card), culture, recreation and language courses
free tickets to cinema, vouchers to bookstore, pre-paid cards for shopping (cafeteria system)
company events (Summer Party, Christmas Dinner)
ID tickets (discounts for airlines tickets for an employee, spouse/partner and children) - after completing 6 months of employment.

Let me know if it's a wise decision to shift Poland. My Current Package is almost similar to what was offered. I am looking for a better work & Life balance.

Can i get a Studio or 1 BHK for 1000PLN to 1200 PLN ?
btw I am 7+ years Experienced SAP Specialist.
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #2
Can i get a Studio or 1 BHK for 1000PLN to 1200 PLN ?

No. You'll need double that.

My Current Package is almost similar to what was offered.

Then there is no point in coming to Poland. The cost of living for you as a foreigner in Kraków would be substantially higher than for you as an Indian in your own city. Giving up your home field advantage is going to cost you. And that's not to mention the cost of your relocation, travel, visas and permits, which has to be deducted from your wages.

As for quality of life, you do realize that there is very little in the way of an Indian community in Poland, and that the local language is Polish, not English. Your wife will have a difficult time making friends to socialize with and with simple things like shopping. You are going to have to spend a significant amount of money to prevent her from going stir-crazy from isolation.

As for the pay, it is a bit low for a SAP administrator in Poland, and very low on a global scale. I suggest that you concentrate your efforts on finding a job in a richer country. See my answer to this question I answered for one of your countrymen here:

https://polishforums.com/work/poland-find-employer-willing-process-81216/
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #3
12500 PLN.

Net or gross? Net, it's three times the median salary and considered very good for Kraków. Gross, its only about double, but still OK.

1 BHK for 1000PLN to 1200 PLN ?

2000 is a more realistic price.

an Indian community in Poland

More than you think.

@Ghosh32, I would ignore the poster above - it's basically trolling.
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #4
it's three times the median salary

That is patently false. It is significantly below the median wage for experienced SAP consultants in Kraków, and very much below the median wage for SAP consultants in richer countries.

If you want to help this person, give them useful and relevant information instead of the nonsense you provided. The median wage of the local general population is completely irrelevant for an ex-pat professional.
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #5
That is patently false

The median salary in Kraków is around 4000zl per month.

The median wage of the local general population is completely irrelevant for an ex-pat professional.

This is untrue, when the poster is asking about quality of life.

I suggest he uses the search function to check out the sole topic that you post on here.
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #6
The median salary in Kraków is around 4000zl per month.

Which is totally irrelevant because the OP is not an average Pole.

This is untrue, when the poster is asking about quality of life.

Is quality of life is going to be a lot better in India if he is making the same amount of money, and a lot better in a richer country where he can earn substantially more.
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #7
I am looking for a better work & Life balance.

This is key. If you feel you'll have more free time here, it is good. Commuting times are low, office hours are less than you are probably used to, and there are many public holidays.

If you know anyone who's worked in KSA or UAE, ask them about prices of food etc - they are generally similar, however the time spent working is far less here, as is the cost of 'fun things.
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #8
you'll have more free time here

Makes little difference to an IP professional with a wife and kid when he realizes that his savings plan is going to take a major hit. And as for their quality of life, it is going to take a huge drop. Winter, isolation, being away from her family, being unable to communicate with people in everyday life, all that is going to get on her nerves.
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #9
I know your sole activity in life is to deter people from outside Europe from coming to Poland, however the OP may well find he is far less isolated than you think. Kraków as a city has a huge overseas population, many activities and organisations and yes, quite a few people from India living and working there.

With Skype, online TV, the various activities for people from abroad, moving to a different place is far less difficult than it was even a decade ago.

Don't be so negative.
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #10
Kraków as a city has a huge overseas population

No, it doesn't. Nothing much in comparison to London, Amsterdam or most any mid-sized city in the west. And what there is is almost entirely transient.

My goal is to help these engineers and students make the best informed choices they can. and it so happens that Poland is rarely even close to the best option.

I'm being VERY positive about their ability to find much better jobs in much richer locations.
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #11
London, Amsterdam or most any mid-sized city in the wes

A very different sort of city. Much more expensive to live in too.

Here are some links the OP may find interesting:
krakowpost.com/6859/2013/07/indian-culture-takes-root-in-poland
facebook.com/iap.info/
quora/How-is-the-life-of-an-Indian-family-in-Poland-My-husband-is-getting-an-IT-job-offer
DominicB - | 2,704
11 May 2017 #12
A very different sort of city. Much more expensive to live in too.

Which is more than offset by the higher wages he will earn there. Cost of living in Kraków is staggeringly high compared to wages. In any case, he will be able to put much more in his savings account at the end of the month even in London that he could in Kraków.
jon357 63 | 14,968
11 May 2017 #13
And no, costs in Kraków are not "staggeringly high". I suggest the OP looks at the links, especially the Facebook one, and has a chat with other people from India who are here.
OP Ghosh32
11 May 2017 #14
Thank you very much guys for sharing so useful info and the links. 12.5 is the Gross.. As said I am not looking to make much money as i believe more money means more stress which may not be the same every where.
Rgupta
29 Jul 2017 #15
When will you join there?


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