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English teacher from Turkey, have any chance to work in Poland?


OP turkishgrl 1 | 11
2 Oct 2010 #31
The thing is - why should anyone hire you when your written skills are poor?

ok, I understand. I will not try.
mafketis 37 | 10,894
2 Oct 2010 #32
The market for English teachers in Poland is probably a lot like the market in Turkey, students want either
a) native speakers
b) non-native speakers who speak the students' language.

I would say the chances for finding employment with Turkish are better as you're a native speaker with some language teaching training. There is more than one university that teaches Turkish and it's going to become more important for Poland to have Turkish specialists in the future.

Google +turecka +filologia and see what comes up....
Bolle 1 | 146
2 Oct 2010 #33
There are countless Poles who teach English in Poland, even though many of them are not fluent in the english language.

Why would a Polish language school want to hire you (u require a visa/work permit ie: you are a hassle) over a Pole trained to teach English?
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,004
3 Oct 2010 #34
Im I not correct?

No, I'd be amazed if you could ever find a "perfect" English teacher.
guesswho 4 | 1,278
3 Oct 2010 #35
Teaching English, yes

Are you really sure about that? So much competition from the UK and US and many Polish teachers too. I don't know.
mephias 10 | 296
3 Oct 2010 #36
If so, it's a type of arrogance I welcome!

Yes unfortunately what Delphian and Amathyst says here is pure arrogance, Thread starter is not asking if her English is good enough to teach English(she also stated that Turkish is another option), She is willing to move Poland and is trying to understand if she can find a job in Poland.

No you have zero chance is an answer. But if you query some other points it means there is lack of understanding, and thread reader should better think about his/her basic understanding skills.
Chicago Pollock 7 | 503
3 Oct 2010 #37
ok, I understand. I will not try

Don't give up so easily. A little optimism goes a long way. If you go and live in Poland you don't know what will happen. In the mean time why don't post on this forum? It'll give you a chance to practice your English and get some info on Poland.
RysiekK 6 | 38
3 Oct 2010 #38
yes, best is learning from native ones. I just try to learn my chance.

No to be rude, your English skills are horrendous! You are definetly NOT fluent in the English language. Teaching a foreign language to someone requires skill as well as knowledge. You may have the skills to teach...but not to teach English!

If you do go to Poland I wish you luck...you will need it :)

I tried to be honest and not rude...
123456789
3 Oct 2010 #39
Dear Turkishgirl

I do appreciate your willingness to teach English in Poland. However, I have noticed many grammatical and some spelling errors that you have made. Polish pupils and students are taught English at a high level, particularly as far as grammatical aspects of the language are concerned. In Poland, they do set store by the correct use of grammar as well as correct writing skills in the English language. There is still too little focus on communicative items of the language, though this approach has been changing recently for the better. I would suggest to you that you should try to teach English to young learners in a primary school in Poland and, meanwhile, improve your English so that you could teach older learners in the future.

I wish you success.
poland_
3 Oct 2010 #40
Americans get employment here because of the tax dodges for EU TEFL schools.

How does that work Seanus?
Seanus 15 | 19,674
3 Oct 2010 #41
Quite well for employers ;)
OP turkishgrl 1 | 11
3 Oct 2010 #42
I think I get enough comments to understand my English level. I can't try to be English teacher there. Everyone, thank you for your helps. I'm sorry if I said sth bad to anyone.
auu
4 Oct 2010 #43
Hi. Very little chance for teaching English even If your English was perfect as people wanted for these jobs are eith Polish or native English speakers. Definately more chances for teaching Turkish, not much demend but not much supply either, however It's now rather too late for finding teaching job for this year as the courses in language schools start now. You could think about customer service/call center kind of job, where Turkish is needed, not many of them but in biggest cities such offers should appear sometimes and there's definately not many candidates and often Polish is not needed.

Here is something like that but almost a year old.
pracawita.pl/oferta-pracy,7836.html

Here something more recent in Katowice:
praca.gazetapraca.pl/200,4001,,798155,,Customer+Service+Advisor+%28Tur kish+language%29.html?utm_source=careerjet.pl&utm_medium=AutopromoZew& utm_content=Wyniki_standardowe&utm_campaign=a_careerjet

add http :// in front of the links.
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,004
13 Oct 2010 #44
You can't teach English if you don't know it!

She has a level that could teach some English. Stop having a go at everyone who comes here to ask for advice! People can always be trained up.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
13 Oct 2010 #45
Many teachers here make mistakes anyway. However, the preference will be to recruit a Polish teacher. I find it funny to see what they teach Polish students. In fact, I am stunned by what I hear and they have such conviction that they are right as their teacher said so.

International communication need not be a precise art outwith the domain of contracts.
Olaf 6 | 955
13 Oct 2010 #46
Delphidom, you're a cock.

HAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahhaha - WTF?!
[sorry, I don't know why, but this was funny; dry, but funny as it makes you wonder WHY this poster thinks you're a c*ck; no offence Delphiandomine]
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
13 Oct 2010 #47
Don't worry, it made me laugh as well :D

I think I know who it was as well ;)
Olaf 6 | 955
13 Oct 2010 #48
Not me, I swear!
Harry
13 Oct 2010 #49
I think I know who it was as well ;)

Who?!
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437
13 Oct 2010 #50
She has a level that could teach some English.

I agree with Davie,

I work for school, which mainly hires Poles, but there is also a Brazilian who teaches English, so there you go.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
13 Oct 2010 #51
As long as they are regularly observed. This is my beef with teaching generally, a lack of observations. This applies to natives too as they are often unqualified and inexperienced. Feeling only goes so far. I asked Germans to teach me German grammar and they were horrible at it. It was loose but still they couldn't get it across.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
13 Oct 2010 #52
It's actually one of the weirdest things for me - schools hire inexperienced, unqualified natives - and then get surprised that the teacher finds it hard going.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
13 Oct 2010 #53
They accept that teachers have a social life but not to the level that is often seen. They are often just there for the ride and not to hone their teaching skills most of the time.

To answer the thread, Turkey is not seen as the most natural place to look but life is strange.
rejedef
27 Apr 2011 #54
Just ignore them, darling. They are just crazy onions as I call these people :D English is not regulated, so it doesn't matter even if you make mistakes. Language is about communication, isn't it?

English doesn't have to be perfect. It must lead to mutual understanding.

You can find a job quite smoothly, if you speak good English. This is because the demand is extremely high as the government said that citizens of Poland should speak several languages. Schools said: we don't have enough teachers; the government replied: we ought to have them.

In practice, I had mostly Ukrainian teachers. They were ok, because they didn't speak much Polish. We had to speak English.

Native speakers are very expensive so if it isn't about money, just come to Mazovia (a historical, geographical and cultural region in Poland which is actually friendlier than Poland :D) :D

Find me on Facebook :)
ukpolska
27 Apr 2011 #55
rejedef

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English is not regulated, so it doesn't matter even if you make mistakes. Language is about communication, isn't it?

I know and that is the problem as my daughter who is nine and fluent in English and Polish is always coming home complaining about what her English teacher is trying to teach her at school. When she was in kindergarten and introduced me to her English teacher there the teacher panicked and ran away as she knew I was English and could hardly speak a word of English and this is not surprising as the basic requirements are a grade 'C' in FCE (First Certificate of English).
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
27 Apr 2011 #56
and could hardly speak a word of English and this is not surprising as the basic requirements are a grade 'C' in FCE (First Certificate of English).

I know you would certainly not be able to pass FCE with "hardly a word of English". This qualification (which I have taught) is certainly enough to be able to teach beginner or elementary English, and really quite a high level. In fact "First Certificate" is not a good name for it. UK Polska what did you expect? Why don't you ask if your daughter can study another language instead?

Why is everyone so precious about English Language Teaching? It's an international language and I am sure that "Turkish girl" would be a very good English teacher. Get off your high horses everyone.
ukpolska
27 Apr 2011 #57
Why don't you ask if your daughter can study another language instead?

There are no other languages to request otherwise quite obviously I would have asked wouldn't I...jezzz !!

I know you would certainly not be able to pass FCE with "hardly a word of English".

Have you seen the people that pass on grade 'C' lol
The whole speaking FCE test is a farce, although there are not much better ones out there.

Any teacher can teach a student to pass this exam by repeated parrot phrases, in fact many of the course books our designed around this, teaching linking phrases.

And yes I worked as a teacher specialising in FCE speaking practice exams for eight years, until that is I became sick of teaching and found something better.

It is no high horse as you describe it !!!
It is more of a responsibility in teaching correct English - and living here as I have for many years I get sick to death of these fly-by-night experts teaching polluted English to Polish children.

If you think that is okay, then shame on you.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
28 Apr 2011 #58
fly-by-night experts teaching polluted English to Polish children.
If you think that is okay, then shame on you.

well I don't think "fly by night experts" are OK, obviously, but my questions were A) if you choose to bring your daughter up in Poland then what did you expect in public schools...special expert Japanese lessons laid on for your special daughter? and B) why is everyone getting so snotty about a Turkish woman teaching English? Its an international language after all.

As I said FCE is quite good enough for teaching beginner and elementary school children
ukpolska
28 Apr 2011 #59
I don't expect anything but professionalism and when it is lacking I criticize it as is my right.
When a teacher cannot even pronounce correctly what they are meant to be teaching then this is clearly wrong and no wonder that there is such a high demand for private schools as the level taught in state schools is atrocious.

why is everyone getting so snotty about a Turkish woman teaching English? Its an international language after all.

I am not, as I am stating what should be the expected level in state schools, not private... or did you miss that? To be honest with turkishgrl's qualifications I would have much more confidence in her teaching children than someone with a basic FCE and I would advise her to contact me as we have a lack of good elementary school English Teachers here where I live.

As I said FCE is quite good enough for teaching beginner and elementary school children

In your opinion, but the obvious need for private schools doesn't back this up does it.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862
28 Apr 2011 #60
In your opinion, but the obvious need for private schools doesn't back this up does it.

I hear what u are saying UK Polska but honestly I met unqualified and inexperienced native english teachers without even a college background who would have struggled with CAE themselves, teaching in these wonderful private schools in Poland. At least someone with a pedagogical background and FCE might have more clue than these, even if their pron. is a bit rubbish?


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