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Why Poland employers are afraid of hiring any foreign nationals?


jones101 1 | 349
25 Feb 2008 #31
Yeah...it is the sad truth about most places. As much as anyone likes to say most countries are racist is just depends on how loud they are about it. Human nature I guess.
zion 16 | 168
25 Feb 2008 #32
again you can always return to old good Islamabad something tell me you will not anyway Good luck Brother
Wyspianska
25 Feb 2008 #34
i thought its you whos not cool
OP Jabwaw 8 | 48
25 Feb 2008 #35
again you can always return to old good Islamabad something tell me you will not anyway Good luck Brother

umm you can predict manythings i guess, i guess you predict your own future as well ;) ahhh i forgot ppl like you have just short term goals. Anway i will keep my fingers cross so that you might be able to have long term goals ;) but no hope......
jones101 1 | 349
25 Feb 2008 #36
'whos' is not a contraction of "who was" even if you had included proper punctuation.

Study your lesson and resubmit.
hairball 20 | 313
25 Feb 2008 #37
Foreigners can get work here. But you have to be persistant!

bielsko.biala.pl/1243,artykuly
davidpeake 14 | 451
25 Feb 2008 #38
on my current trip to poland im noticing an increasing amount of failing businesses - people who have sunk huge amounts of money into ventures that obviously wouldnt work from the off set... its kinda worrying...

has anyone else noticed this?

have noticed a bit of that around my area bubba
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510
25 Feb 2008 #39
ive got a freind who is about to open a vege restaurant in sopot which is great becasue i am vegetarian and crave decent food when im here... but the life span of so many of the restaurants that open up in sopot is a summer season, two if they are lucky, before closing... his potentially huge capital investment worries me...
Ranj 21 | 948
25 Feb 2008 #40
but the life span of so many of the restaurants that open up in sopot is a summer season, two if they are lucky, before closing...

That's too bad....I know here in US, most new restaurants are in the red for a while before they start making money....I think if your friend has patience and is persistent, as hairball said, then the potential for a successful restaurant is there....
Michal - | 1,865
26 Feb 2008 #41
on't you think that its a kind of discrimination against foreigners?

The Polish Nation is very nationalistic and will only employ similar people. Mind you, there are a lot of nasty Poles in England now. You only have to watch programmes like Crimes Watch U.K. to see the number of murderers and child abusers who are being caught by their D.N.A. and are being brought back to England and given life sentences.
jones101 1 | 349
26 Feb 2008 #42
on my current trip to poland im noticing an increasing amount of failing businesses - people who have sunk huge amounts of money into ventures that obviously wouldnt work from the off set... its kinda worrying...

has anyone else noticed this?

Yep...I have returned to a shop or restaurant many a time and it has been empty with for rent signs in the window. Oddly it seems to be the places I like most that close...it must be a conspiracy or my horrid taste :)
RJ_cdn - | 267
26 Feb 2008 #43
there are a lot of nasty Poles in England now. You only have to watch programmes like Crimes Watch U.K. to see the number of murderers and child abusers who are being caught by their D.N.A. and are being brought back to England and given life sentences.

I know of one (the Jakub guy), who are the others?
Michal - | 1,865
26 Feb 2008 #44
(the Jakub guy), who are the others?

Exactly, the fat Pole who was given two life sentences at my financial expense.
RJ_cdn - | 267
26 Feb 2008 #45

I want to know about the others you mentioned in your previous post.
easybabe - | 14
18 Feb 2010 #46
language problem is the biggest problem
matteroftaste
18 Feb 2010 #47
Why Polish employers are afraid of hiring any foreign nationals?

Maybe it has changed in the past 3 years but when I was in Poland I had a feeling like it was really for me to find a job. Actually Polish teachers had more problems with finding jobs than native speakers.
hague1cameron - | 85
18 Feb 2010 #48
The Polish Nation is very nationalistic and will only employ similar people. Mind you, there are a lot of nasty Poles in England now. You only have to watch programmes like Crimes Watch U.K. to see the number of murderers and child abusers who are being caught by their D.N.A. and are being brought back to England and given life sentences.

Actually stats show that they three times less likely to commit crimes than the locals.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Feb 2010 #49
Could you really imagine a foreign worker working in an administrative centre as a clerk? Especially a black man. The locals would shun him and there would be even less cooperation than before. They have to be able to gabble away in Polish and a foreigner would only put a spanner in the works.
uto
18 Feb 2010 #50
Ironic that Poles claim to be discriminated against when abroad and claim to ever be perpetual victims meanwhile in Poland foreigners WILL NOT be hired by any Polish company save language schools (and that's soon to change).

Ironic isn't really heavy enough a word.
True colours show in actions, not words.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Feb 2010 #51
How is that soon to change? English is a vital commodity and schools will always be needed to teach people how it works.
uto
18 Feb 2010 #52
a native speaker just isn't needed to teach English in Poland these days, bilingual Poles are more than competent. Soon there will only be foreigners working in multi-national corporations or in asian run businesses: Indian (they'll teach English for 10zł/hour too), Korean and Chinese. Another 5 years and you will see it more clearly.
Harry
18 Feb 2010 #53
meanwhile in Poland foreigners WILL NOT be hired by any Polish company

Wrong. I'm a foreigner and am employed by a Polish company which is not a language school. All the people here who have the same position as me are foreigners.

a native speaker just isn't needed to teach English in Poland these days, bilingual Poles are more than competent.

Wrong again.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
18 Feb 2010 #54
Harry is right here, uto. Bilingual Poles may be cheaper and that's about the only way they'll get in but Polish schools pay for novelty value. Bilingual Poles will still need to show a commitment to teaching and they will likely be from a different background than teaching.
abcenglish
18 Feb 2010 #55
As a Brit. (British father and Polish mother) and an ELT teacher I am currently working for a private language school in a small Polish town and despite having one Polish parent I still at times feel discriminated against for being British (even though I am entitled to hold dual nationality)! For example, last term I was teaching one class of children, most of whose parents were extremely delighted that their children were being taught by a native English speaker. However, one group of parents (there were 5 of them) constantly complained that something was wrong with my lessons. My Director of Studies and I did everything to please these parents until eventually the truth came out - they wanted a Polish teacher to teach their children!! The class was eventually handed over to a Polish teacher so that the school would not lose their custom (not my choice). I have nothing against Polish teachers of English but none of these 'pushy' parents actually speak English and yet feel in a better position to judge their childrens progress (not fast paced enough, too advanced!). This is racism - they wanted another teacher simply because I am British - it would not be tolerated in any form in the UK so why should I be subjected to it here? - Please no stupid comments about "if you don't like it go home" as this is in itself racist!
z_darius 14 | 3,968
18 Feb 2010 #56
Bilingual Poles will still need to show a commitment to teaching and they will likely be from a different background than teaching.

Am I wrong assuming you do not hold a degree in education?
uto
18 Feb 2010 #57
Wrong again.

time will tell. but Polish teachers are every bit as fluent and can give instructions much more efficiently, guarantee there are no misunderstandings and for the level of Most Poles desire they are far more cost effective.

As for your personal experience, well it seems more of an exception than a rule. We both this is true.
Harry
18 Feb 2010 #58
but Polish teachers are every bit as fluent and can give instructions much more efficiently,

You've clearly not spent a lot of time working at Polish schools of English. I spent more than a decade working at them and know (as does anybody who has worked at them) that Polish teachers are most certainly not "every bit as fluent".
Foreigner4 12 | 1,768
18 Feb 2010 #59
Please no stupid comments about "if you don't like it go home" as this is in itself racist!

check your definition of racism because that's a bit "off."

Regarding your situation: Poles? Nepotism? What a surprise! More than a few Poles think themselves as the best at everything and think that anytime a Pole isn't 1st or doesn't get the nod in work or play then the deck has been stacked against them (unless it's football, despair seems to set in before the inevitable). They use this mentality to justify their nepotism.

You got a group of parents who fit this mentality, you can't control how people think, you got to let it go. (but correct your definition of "racism")
Seanus 15 | 19,706
19 Feb 2010 #60
Why on earth would I want to hold a degree in Education, Dariusz? What is this elitist crap you are full of? My education comes from book learning and the free acquisition of culture and other aspects around me. I don't need an Education degree.


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