Cost of Living, Average Salaries and Job sites in Poland

gross. take home ends up being 2200ish


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I suppose. Basic, basic accounting.

convex wrote:


ok. i was talking net.

so yeah, I said $600, you're saying $700. po prostu, do dupy.

"exactly" still rubbish.

Still more than Kasia takes home, though!

ah f0ck this im off to work.. Im sure the others can read between the lines.

Good, you want even have to move seats ;)

Why not work on your flashcards? That way you might even have them finished this year.

It's all relative. She does alright on that. That whole rent free bit helps, considering that 80% of Poles don't pay rent, $700 take home is more than quite a few of my friends in the states have left over.

That said, I couldn't live my lifestyle on the average US wage. I couldn't live it on twice the average US salary. It's all about where you're looking at it from. From my perspective, I could say something along the lines of, "I couldn't imagine having to take out a loan to buy a house, car, university, etc". Does that mean that someone that does is poor? It's all relative.

Beer?

convex wrote:


i've always said, it's not what you earn, it's what you spend.

convex wrote:


indeed.

I live in Chicago, but I was born in Poland. My parents moved here when I was very little, so all my life I have gone to school in the States. Due to American colleges averaging $9,000-$32,000 my parents just can't afford that, which is why we're planning for me to graduate High School a semester early and to move to Warsaw to attend the University of Warsaw to take psychology classes in English. They will be fully paying for my studies, I will be living with family until I get settled and put some money away, and they'll be sending me 1,500 zlote a month for living expenses. I just want to know general opinions on my ability to get a part time job to help my parents out a bit. As a native English speaker, with good fluency in Polish, what kind of a job could I get and what the salary would be?

You could take a course to learn to teach English as a Foreign Language and get a TEFL diploma in the US prior to your relocation in Poland.

There are many ads looking for English Language teachers in Language schools on Justlanded .com or Website ESL café,Expatsin Poland etc ,I think or once you have the degree you may also post some ads.

Beeing fluent in both English and Polish will surely help !

Also you may offer your services on Gumtree Warsaw to get private students , i think you can charge around 50zl per hour ( not sure about the going rate in Warzsawa) but you should be pretty overwhelmed !

Also make sure you bring in your luggage a LOT of ESL Books because in Poland they are very expensive.

Good luck

Klaud wrote:


I'd suggest looking for english teaching jobs unless you want to work for absolute peanuts. I'd suggest looking into teaching young children. lots of parents out there are looking for native speakers to teach their kids and because you could walk into their house and roll in Polish with them, it would make them far more comfortable leaving their children with you. The 30-50 white collar crowd generally earns good money in Warsaw and are willing to pay good money to teach their children english. take advantage of it.

as far as teaching adults, you'll be at a great disadvantage being only 18 years old in today's ESL market. you have no business experience and to be honest, limited life experience at just 18. you're underqualified in general.....but with kids, being a native english speaker and fluent polish speaker, you'd be a good find!

Klaud wrote:


I think it's great what you're doing but when i read about cases like this, I can't help but wonder what it's going to be like for you entering the job market when you get back to the USA. I've only seen it firsthand once with a Pole, this person had a master's from Poland and she told me flat out that the companies she was applying to simply didn't consider her degree to be equivalent to a master's degree in the USA. she was always at a disadvantage when she was one of many in that infamous "pile of resumes".

I would be interested in hearing about other people out there on PF who have had similar, or different experiences with a Polish degree in the USA.

As a side note, I'd say that the "disadvantage" mostly exists in the beginning. Once you get a job in the USA and prove yourself, people generally stop looking at your education and more at the positions you have held and what you have done in your career thus far.

Depends.I have a Polish friend on a Fulbright finishing her PHD in Psychology at NYU , I don't think she 'd have any problem finding a white collar job such as an HR in the US.

Which means that you can start your studies in Europe and then apply for scholarship in the US.

I had not realized that Klaud was only 18 so I fully agree with Fuzzytickets that teaching polish kids would be the best option.( Still a good idea to bring from the US English language books for kids)

LwowskaKrakow wrote:


Not really sure why you just brought that up, it's entirely different than the question I posed.

This person is doing a PhD. in the USA which means she will graduate with a doctorate earned in the USA. This is completely different than getting a master's in Poland and then coming to the USA and hitting the job market.

Maybe we could just type some price examples here so people will have a detailed idea about the topic.

Let me give start as far as i remember.

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Location: Kraków
Date: September 2010
Exchange Rates (approx): 1 Zł = 0.25€ = 0.35$ <-> 1€ = 4 Zł , 1$ = 3 Zł

Food & Drink
Loaf of Bread - 2 zl
Egg - 0,5 zl
1 lt Milk - 2 zl
200 gr Butter - 2,5 zl
200 gr Cottage Cheese - 3 zl
250 gr Mozarella Cheese - 6 zl
Round pastry with sesame - 1,5 zl
1 piece of lettuce - 4 zl
1 kg of trout - 15 zl
2 lt of apple juice - 4 zl
0,33lt (one can) of Coca Cola - 1,5 zl
0,5lt of ice tea - 3,5 zl
100 gr white chocolade - 3,5 zl
1 kg banana(around 3-4 piece) - 7 zl
1 kg apple - 4 zl
1 kg red grapes - 10 zl
A cup of hot chocolate in a centrally located cafe - 6 or 8 zl
One vodka+juice in a centrally located bar - 4 or 5 zl
0,5lt Beer (Kiwi aroma) in a centrally located bar - 7 zl
One portion(7-8 pieces) of pierogi in a local restaurant - 8 or 10 zl
One portion soup, one mixed salad, Some kind of fried cheese and french fries in a local restaurant - 14 or 15 zl

I don't really eat meat so i don't know much about them but as far as i remember, there were lots of kind of hams and prices were around 10-15 zl per kg. sausages are even cheaper.

Transportation

Maybe someone can fill this place much better than me. Still:

one way bus&tram ticket - 2,5 zl (%50 reduced for students)
Train tickets to Warsaw - 40 zl (around 25 zl for students)

I am not living in Poland at the moment so i don't know much about the prices but these were the ones i remember. I mostly shopped from local street markets by the way.

We can fill here with more categories and examples i guess. Everyone who wants to join can have a post like mine and for example just type your latest grocery shopping list here :) Or if you have just started to go to a fitness center, just type the membership fee (maybe with the comparison you already made before picking up the best place). I am also sure that one can give us a detailed information about cigarettes & alcohol prices too. They are an important part of monthly expenditure for some people. How about the wining & dining gourmets. Share your latest menus with us.

Thanks and Cheers

The simple fact is that a Magister degree is not a Master's degree. Put simply, you can not do a Master's degree at any recognised university having classes every other weekend for four and a half years but you can get a Magister that way at pretty much every Polish university and that really drags down the recognition of the Magister degree.

Who are to to say it is not!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Polish magister degree is similar to a master degree in any English speaking country!!

Anyone who deals with qualifications on a professional basis will tell you this. The old "magister" is simply not equal to an English-speaking Masters degree. The post-Bologna Masters is, but - Polish education simply doesn't have a good reputation abroad.

Any Pole who wants to seriously get ahead educationally would be wise to do a BA in Poland and a Masters degree abroad.


Unfortunately, most people don't treat it as equal. There's not a damn thing you can do about it, until Poland reforms the education system to remove the absurdity of someone gaining a Masters degree with 5 years study during the weekends.

Employers and university admissions officers are two groups of people who say that it is not.

All HR departments of major companies and the Ministry of Education.

You're going to spend five years of your life over here, so that you can return home with an internationally worthless* degree in a subject that, outside its own field, is equally worthless.

Think carefully about what you want this degree for. If you really want to be a psychologist then go for it. If you're doing it just because university sounds like fun, and you need a certificate to get some sort of office job in the future, then seriously SERIOUSLY reconsider your options.

* in comparison to five-year degrees from Asian or Western universities

You are right however if we follow this approach, almost everything young people study is worthless:
Philosophy, Art, Sculpture, Literature,psychology ,cinema...

So what do you advise ? To just focuss on Business MBAs or technical Diplomas ?

In my opinion if the young man studied plumbing in Warsaw and go back to the US he would make a lot of money too , but knowing the American society anything works as long as you want to work hard, even psychology.

I have a good friend who earned her masters in Poland but when she applied to a university in the US she was only credited for getting her BS.

(keep in mind that there is a lot of money being made by the education institutions in the states and they will use any excuse possible to keep you in school longer and paying for it longer.)

and voila!
business is business Winnetou! especially in the land of opportunities... :)

To live comfortably in Poland, i.m.o. for a couple. Is around 12000zl or more a month.

Netto or brutto?

netto

stallion wrote:


yeah, the polish person I mentioned earlier experienced the same thing. they simply told her that she has to start with an entry level job because her degree is only considered to be a Bachelor's in the USA.

Merged:how much will it cost me: Rent, Food, Services of Translator.

hi all,

i am coming to warsaw for a business trip and will be staying there for a month. how much it will cost if i rent a standard one bed room flat, going to difference offices, going out on weekend and food as well. i am also planning to recruit someone temporary for three weeks who can speak english and be able to go with me to meet people and translate from polish to english, how much i have to pay him/her for three weeks.

what do you recommend me to advertise and get a response.

athentic information will be helpful.

kind regards,

what kind of business u have, i live in berlin but if you give me some more detail then i can guide u on proper way or i can recommend someone who can do this job properly. just give me more detail of ur business