What jobs pay 10,000 zlotych per month? and Where can i find one? :o)

Quite right brotha. You can hash together a big pot of bigos for next to nothing. I had a huge meal today and it wouldn't have cost a lot. Let's appreciate the modest but delicious dishes that Polish homecooking provides.

The Poles get by quite nicely :)

well, bigos is local "pizza" you take all the leftovers from the whole week mix them with cabbage, now that's thriftiness! :)

Too much trolls in this thread to take everything seriously, I'll be happy if I can earn 3000 "netto" after graduating.. now I'm getting 10zl per hour full of heavy thinking and programming ; )

So what do you mean? 4000 PLN is enough for life? I am expecting 10000 PLN on my new assignment in wroclaw...any guess what can i save if i live a simple life..yet not so simple ;-) ?

10 000
- 4 000
______
6 000

simple maths for simple life

True !

:)

You have a point, most people I speak to earn about 1500zl (in hand per month) I laugh when I hear people on this forum who are english teachers claim to earn 6000zl a month.

Is this a Polish thing to claim to earn more than you do? Like asking a old pole what his rank was in the army! Rest assured it will be always a Officer rank, which always begs the question what happended to all the soldiers!..hmmm

I actually did, bolek. I worked for 2 schools and averaged 6200 gross. Now it is somewhat different, more like 4700 due to some changes.

I make that net when I am busy which means for around 8 - 9 months of the year. I do work long days for it though. I teach more hours than most teachers.

Get my point, I'm talking about standard hours, not working everyday of the week.

Standard hours being? I don't always work every day of the week.

Well, I do believe what veteran forum members say, I'm just keeping my distance while hearing things from Guests or people with 20 posts, or those who are saying that having a salary of under 5000pln is poverty - who are just trying to insult others. Well educated natives from uk or usa can probably earn a lot as english teachers because they are a rare breed in here.. I'm rooting for anyone who is working hard to make a living despite the salary

Did you pay tax, did the employer contribute to a superannuation fund, did you have sick leave entitlements. hmmm

Standard terms you mean? Pay tax, yes. Superannuation fund, only ZUS ;)

Sick leave? That's another contract but ZUS kicks in sometimes :)

Seanus, look I don't doubt your honesty, but keep in mind school teachers earn about 1200zl in hand per month. The point I am trying to make is that Poles generally speaking like to impress others in what they have and how much money they make.

public school and a private school is smth different : o the same with beeing local and native english teacher

Teaching English is a scam, every second English speaking person claims to be an English teacher. I was always coming across people claiming to earn X amount. In reality I made more money cleaning windows and scooping crap out of peoples pools than TEFL people did.

Most schools are run by dodgy characters and most teachers cant see further than staying another nine months. Basically they are all bored out of their scones. I never saw the point of staying in another country just to stay in that country. If you can make a good life fair play, you are lucky. Think further than wanting to own your own school.

I agree with what you are saying.

well you know mr tovarischt that job is about making money and not really for the soul. if you want to work to lift you spirit, i suggest NK, Cuba, Venesuela et. al.


to mach my life here in the usa, i'd have to make almost double of what i make here.. who are you kidding with this stuff?

if i've written it once, i've written it 1000 times, it's just bad form to make public your earnings. It serves no purpose and can only be used against you.

That's fair enough, bolek. I see that too. I'm not Polish btw. A Polish teacher, in order to make 6200 gross, would have to work all the hours under the sun. You are right about that.

Of course, people work to make money and to be successful, and the more money we make the better....I'm not stupid mate, I worked in sales for many many years which is indeed ALL about the money...my point is, I have never liked nor will I ever like or even respect anybody who likes to shoot their mouth off about how much they earn, expect to earn and comments of 'I wouldnt get out of bed for less than...' or ' Getting less than ... is poverty' etc just show that these people are mindless materialistic idiots who have no clue about the real world. Do you really have the need to make yourself feel superior to others by telling us how much you expect to earn and to have the same standard of living as you have in the US etc etc or perhaps you are compensating for something???

A benchmark of expected salary is useful for a teacher considering different options of where to teach. You can criticize teachers all you want but if not for teachers you probably wouldn't be able to read this or type your response. Some teachers do it for the money but that doesn't last. I enjoy teaching and also enjoying saving my money while doing it. Some teachers volunteer for free or even pay to volunteer to teach. That is fantastic if that is what makes them happy.

Most of the schools I know in Warsaw pay the same hourly rate for Poles as for native speakers. That is generally because the Poles have more experience and better qualifications.

Earning 6,000 a month is not that hard in Warsaw. The going rate these days is about 43zl net per 45 minutes (slightly less than it was a couple of years ago). If we assume that there are 4 weeks in a month (of course there are 4.3 but everybody wants to have some time off and will be sick sometimes too), that will mean working 35 classes a week, in other words about three and a half 90-minute classes per day. That is perfectly manageable as workloads go. If you're careful about which classes you take (i.e. avoid kids and teenagers as they're too much work and try to have as many classes as possible at the same lesson so you can prepare one lesson and use it with five or six groups), it's perfectly possible to work 30 hours a week including preparation time and still earn 6,000zl per month net.

You make it sound a forgone conclusion.

The work is out there for people who want to do it. The problem most teachers have is they don't treat the profession as a profession. Turn up to classes hung-over and unprepared and you won't be earning a decent salary. Be reliable and consistant and you'll fairly soon find that you're turning down more work than you're accepting.

Consistent, yes. It just depends.

Very true, when i started teaching, it was a means to an end. I didn't tap the full potential. When i gave up drinking it gave me lots of extra free time and i had a new attitude towards it. Treat it like a profession and you will reap the rewards.

I have to agree with this. Cutting back on the drinking helps (says he who is close to polishing off a bottle of 48PLN SA Sauvignon Blanc with 84PLN a kilo cheese). Do as I say don't do as I do, LOL.

Seriously though, head to the grindstone and be sure to carve out some routine to your timetable, I'm struggling to maximise my working week due to entering into previous commitments and not being able to extricate myself. It's a fallow period compared to before but it can be changed with careful planning.

One problem i have seen when natives come here, is that they can easily afford partying every night. Whether they are great teachers or not, they get sucked into the trap of thinking that this is a holiday, not a serious job. Kraków being the city it is, i was well suckered into the lifestyle of parties every night of the week, being as social as i could be. But that didnt pay my bills, and when i stopped using money from investments back home, i soon realised what a fecked up mind-set i had.

The key thing is to pinch yourself, take a deep breath, and ask yourself what you have to show for it. I don't have a kid, car, mortgage or drink that much and I still notch up a fair few costs.

Things can turn around so quickly if you are not on the ball.