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Why are Polish restaurants not successful in the USA?


Harry
17 Jul 2011 #241
I was less than impressed by their place in the Starówka.

Really? I rate it as the best of their three places and probably the best curry in Poland.

Is Arti still open on al. Jerozolimskie? They were always OK, and I noticed the other day that they've got a new place on ul. Francuska.

As far as I know Arti is still open there (and their place in Saska) but I haven't been for years: Namaste and Ganesh are so good there's no need to look elsewhere.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #242
Wroclaw Boy:
I think its ignorance, people simply arent aware of what Polish food is, many would assume Polish food means loads of cabbage, pierogi and sausage. Its so much more and mostly untainted by all the crap you expect these days.

It has nothing to do with ignorance, it's a matter of preference after all.

It is ignorance because people here don't know Polish cuisine even many Polish-Americans. Thet think Polish food is kielbasa, pierogi, golabki, barszcz and babka. That's what the poor people brought over, it's peasant food. Once on MTV one of the dating shows they went to a real Polish restaurant in LA. Had dishes like stuffed Roasted Duck in wild mushroom sauce or Lamb chops with garlic and thyme, roast pike.

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Wroclaw Boy
17 Jul 2011 #243
Had dishes like stuffed Roasted Duck in wild mushroom sauce or Lamb chops with garlic and thyme, roast pike.

that is traditional French cuisine though, not Polish at all.

Poles hate lamb, Lamb is like rocking horse shite in Poland, you just cant get it. Their beef is tuff as old army boots too.

Nah im talking the real Polish meals, typical Polish cuisine well cooked and prepared with the finest ingredients. Golabki, potato cake with goulash (i know its Hungarian) but what the hell, uhmm pierogi obviously, schabowe, kapusta, and of course the wonderful salads - especially boracki.
guesswho 4 | 1,278
17 Jul 2011 #244
Everybody (except Americans) know that Pizza is Italian, curry is Indian and the Chinese eat dogs. It wasnt a specific dig at yanks by any means, just a general lack of understanding with regard to Polish food, kind of a "you don't know what your missing" deal. Ignorance isnt a bad word, chill you're panties little one.

yeah, yeah, yeah WB, we don't know that pizza is Italian, lol Now you're being ridiculous WB. Chill WB, ridiculous is not a bad word, sweetie pie.

I'll tell you something, I ate pizza in Italy and I have to say that our pizza is better (you'll most likely disagree as always) and that's why I said earlier that it's a matter of preference after all. Now talking about Polish food, it's very specific in its taste and it's simply not the kind of food that will please many people other than Poles. OK, you like it because you live there and because you're different (again, honey bunny, different is not a bad word).
teflcat 5 | 1,032
17 Jul 2011 #245
Lamb is like rocking horse shite in Poland, you just cant get it. Their beef is tuff as old army boots too

It's not impossible to find fresh lamb but it is very difficult. I go to a particular butcher twice a week because they sometimes sell it. Last week they had a little (somewhere between lamb and mutton) so I bought a couble of kilos. I personally do not know a single Pole who likes lamb or mutton. As for the beef, yes it's not easy to find good tender beef in Poland. I suppose it's because the animals spend so much time indoors.
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jul 2011 #246
I ate pizza in Italy and I have to say that our pizza is better

Our pizza!! Itialian pizza is the same right across the country, thin crust sex on a plate IMO. Sure there are some decent pizza joints in the US, but you cant say our pizza unless youre talking about big companies such as pizza hut.

and that's why I said earlier that it's a matter of preference after all.

I didnt read that and its not anyway. Its ignorance.

yeah, yeah, yeah WB, we don't know that pizza is Italian, lol Now you're being ridiculous WB. Chill WB,

(again, honey bunny, different is not a bad word).

thats what i like to read, respect for your elders. Keep it up.

yes it's not easy to find good tender beef in Poland. I suppose it's because the animals spend so much time indoors.

I bought so much beef in PL, looking at it in the shop thinking thats gonna be lovely only to get it home and feel like throwing the shite against the wall in frustration once cooked. Fillet is safe, but thats about it.

It's not impossible to find fresh lamb but it is very difficult

I found some poxy bones with a little bit of meat on them in Auchen once, it was frozen and thought fcuk that just gimme some turkey or pork instead.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #247
that is traditional French cuisine though

Well if we look at it like that almost no of the food is Polish ,kielbasa is something else, pierogi barszcz Russian, golabki maybe. Then what is American? hamburger is German, bacon and eggs English, pizza Italian, hot dog maybe?

Poles hate lamb

Because it's relatively unknown in Poland and you gotta know how to cook it. Kebab is Lamb Poles love it.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
17 Jul 2011 #248
How about the boczek here? Is it best just to throw it in a pan and boil it up or can it be put into a microwave-style oven? Any suggestions?
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jul 2011 #249
hot dog maybe?

sorry mate thats a frankfurter, German too.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
17 Jul 2011 #250
I found some poxy bones with a little bit of meat on them in Auchen

I know what you mean. The stuff in hypermarkets is just what nobody else will buy. The place I get mine from is a family butcher (if you know what I mean) with a farm, so it's all good.

Kebab is Lamb Poles love it.

kebab should be lamb, and I'm sure Americans love it, but kebab in Poland is pork or chicken. No lamb.
guesswho 4 | 1,278
17 Jul 2011 #251
Our pizza!! Itialian pizza is the same right across the country, thin crust sex on a plate IMO. Sure there are some decent pizza joints in the US, but you cant say our pizza unless youre talking about big companies such as pizza hut.

I call it our pizza because millions of Italians are a part of this nation and so the pizza they make became one of our favorite foods in the US. Besides, it tastes different than Italian pizza made in Italy (to me anyway).

Its ignorance.

it would be ignorance if we didn't know where pizza comes from but we do and that's why it's ignorance to assume that we don't know it.

thats what i like to read, respect for your elders. Keep it up.

Oh, c'mon hun, you're big boy, you can take the heat :-)
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #252
but kebab in Poland is pork or chicken. No lamb.

That's not a Kebab then, it's a fake.
urszula 1 | 253
17 Jul 2011 #253
Poles hate lamb

Lamb - baranina - is very popular in Poland, sometimes it's hard to find but if you're in Zakopane, everything is made with baranina. They have so many sheep there that they got nothing better to do then to milk them.

Polish pizza is the one loaded with ketchup. Not something eaten in America.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
17 Jul 2011 #254
Lamb is jagnięcina, not baranina. Baranina is from baran, a ram.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
17 Jul 2011 #255
Lamb - baranina - is very popular in Poland,

Absolutely not true. In more than one way. Sorry.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
17 Jul 2011 #256
Lamb - baranina - is very popular in Poland

It is?

Why can't I find a consistent supply of it? Why does my restaurant-owner friend pay a small fortune for a consistent supply?
guesswho 4 | 1,278
17 Jul 2011 #257
lamb or a young sheep 'baran", right?



teflcat 5 | 1,032
17 Jul 2011 #258
Baranina is from baran, a ram.

I'm prepared to stand corrected but isn't baranina mutton, regardless of the animal's sex?
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jul 2011 #259
I call it our pizza because millions of Italians are a part of this nation and so the pizza they make became one of our favorite foods in the US.

I might give you that one by the very thinnest of slithers.
guesswho 4 | 1,278
17 Jul 2011 #260
I'm glad you see it that way :-)
Wroclaw Boy
17 Jul 2011 #261
Because it's relatively unknown in Poland and you gotta know how to cook it

Boil, steam, microwave, fry or oven. Theres always the fire but not very conventional.

Lamb is lamb dude cook it the same way any other meat.

Wroclaw Boy:
I might give you that one by the very thinnest of slithers.

I'm glad you see it that way :-)

never let it be said that im not a reasonable man.

How are you enjoying the school holidays?
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #262
Lamb - baranina - is very popular in Poland, sometimes it's hard to find but if you're in Zakopane

The Polish highlanders do make wonderful dishes. Went to restaurant in Zakopane once for a relatively low price (considering all the food) they brought me maybe a meter long tray with lamb, potatoes, veggies, salads, bread no way I could finish it.
grubas 12 | 1,384
17 Jul 2011 #263
Then what is American? hamburger is German, bacon and eggs English, pizza Italian, hot dog maybe?

Nope.Hot dog aka frankfurter comes from Germany (Frankfurt).
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #264
Yes thank you Wroclaw Boy already answered that one

sorry mate thats a frankfurter, German too.

Marynka11 4 | 677
17 Jul 2011 #265
Then what is American?

What about sweet potato dishes, turkey scrapple, pecan pie, cinnamon roll, corn dogs, corn on the cob, deep fried ice crem?

I think they are American.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #266
sweet potato dishes, turkey scrapple, pecan pie, cinnamon roll, corn dogs, corn on the cob, deep fried ice crem?

That's a bunch of sugary junk food.
American BBQ I do love especially ribs.

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Marynka11 4 | 677
17 Jul 2011 #267
That's a bunch of sugary junk food.

But that seems to be the national character of American food.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #268
That's why I prefer as Wroclaw Boy put it French food with a glass of red wine. Smart people the French they don't even exercise and are thin through eating the right way.

Roasted Duck in wild mushroom sauce or Lamb chops with garlic and thyme, roast pike.

that is traditional French cuisine though

Marynka11 4 | 677
17 Jul 2011 #269
French food with a glass of red wine. Smart people the French they don't even exercise and are thin through eating the right way.

They also smoke and have a lot of sex.

But to be serious, one problem in America is the type of food, the other is how much of it. The portions in American restaurants are unbelievable.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
17 Jul 2011 #270
They also smoke and have a lot of sex.

You gotta have a balance :)

But to be serious, one problem in America is the type of food, the other is how much of it. The portions in American restaurants are unbelievable.

Yes and to stuff oneself like a pig. Eating smaller portions more often is the right way to go about it. Every 2-3 hours.


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