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Do Poles feel America is going down the drain?


richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #61
I can assure you that America don't go anywhere.

Agreed. More and more, THIS is Amerika:

1 Mammy + 3 Baby Daddy = 15 Kids :

"I need money," she said. "I need transportation...I need a house," she says, "a big enough home to be comfortable."

The 37-year-old mother doesn't work. "This is my work," she said gesturing toward the bunch.

"I can have as many [kids] as I want to," she said. All her kids, she added, "are gifts from God."

"Ten of the children, she said, were fathered by Garry Brown, currently serving a five-year prison term for dealing cocaine."

With measured indignation, Adams said somebody owes her.

"What do I do?" she says. "I have no answers...Someone needs to pay."
nunczka 8 | 458
22 Apr 2010 #62
Can't think of any of my friends or co-workers getting robbed either...

Oh come on now.. You are speaking a lot of rubbish. Miami is a hell hole away from the beach, Did you ever walk through South Chicago at night? Away from the larger cities Florida is safe (So far)
AdamKadmon
22 Apr 2010 #63
Don't worry about America, think how to help Poland!
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #64
South Chicago at night

Yes, when was in boot camp in Chicago we did venture there with my buddies. Honestly, it was pretty quiet at 3 AM, or maybe I was too drunk to notice. Miami does have a lot of sh*tty neighborhoods but they have plenty of nice ones too.

Agreed. More and more, THIS is Amerika:

1 Mammy + 3 Baby Daddy = 15 Kids :

Apparently she is making money on this interview. Jerry Springer FTW. 1 doesn’t make the whole America.

it's a place with the same looking houses, horney housewives, always busy husbands, arrogant kids, pretty filthy inside but clean outside place...

haha, but so true. I do try to take care of my wife though.
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #65
The US is cheap now

Well, with no jobs...

U.S. Secretary of Education: 300,000 Teachers To Lose Jobs

Today the U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan announced there could be as many as 300,000 teachers laid off before the next school year begins because the states and cities do not have the money to pay for public education.

ireport.com/docs/DOC-435298

And please don't tell me "could be"... we ALL know Government numbers are skewed :)
f stop 25 | 2,507
22 Apr 2010 #66
More and more, THIS is Amerika:

No, this is America people like you want to read about, and the media is happily obliging you.
Nobody is interested in normal people with challenging jobs, sending their kids to colleges, involved in their communities and taking care of their environment.
TheOther 6 | 3,674
22 Apr 2010 #67
there seems to be a creep in crime from lower income neighborhoods into middle class neighborhoods.

I have to agree with you, as I notice the same here. The reason though seems to be that too many people lost their jobs and have no chance to get back on their feet again.
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #68
Nobody is interested in normal people with challenging jobs,

U.S. Real Unemployment Hits Depression Level Numbers of 17.5%

"This is bad. Double-digit unemployment. In October, unemployment soared to 10.2%. 16 million people are out of work. The average work week is down to 33 hours. Payrolls have contracted 22 months straight. The "real" jobless rate (underemployment) is now 17.5% and rising."

marketoracle.co.uk/Article14893.html

sending their kids to colleges,

American Frustration with College Costs Reaches All-Time High

"Millions of Americans hope to boost their education level, especially in today's troubled economy - but their frustration with the seemingly out-of-control costs of college is reaching new heights."

involved in their communities

Volunteerism Down, But Hours Up

"In these times when more people are in need, having lost their job or home, etc., there are fewer volunteers to help them in their time of need."

and taking care of their environment.

Google "US Recycling Falls Short" (Too Many to List!)

I'm surprised at you, convex. Unless you choose to live in a gheto, or hang around with crackheads, life in US is very safe.

US Department of Justice: The Growth of Gangs in Suburban Areas

"Gangs are fully entrenched in many suburban communities across the nation; they began to expand from urban areas into suburban communities during the 1970s, continued their expansion in the 1980s, and launched into full-scale migration during the 1990s. Many notable gangs such as the Chicago-based Gangster Disciples, Black Peace Stones, and Latin Kings initially formed as organizations for political and social reform during the 1960s. However, by the early 1970s, the focus of a number of these gangs moved from reform to criminal activity for profit."
f stop 25 | 2,507
22 Apr 2010 #69
LOL You really like the US doom and gloom scenario, huh?

I don't know where you get the 17% unemployment, you should be looking here: bls.gov
- That means that 90% are employed.
- Most kids I talk to love college.
- Volunteering is our new party theme.
- We all try to 'out-green' each other.

But, like I said, the bad news sells better that no news. I can easily google all the bad news myself, but as long as you enjoy yourself... carry on.
guzzler 1 | 88
22 Apr 2010 #70
They've been robbed twice, there was a shooting on their street about a month ago, each one of the cars have been broken into in various places around town.

Convex I am sorry to hear about your Mom and Dads troubles, I know how upsetting that can be. Back in the mid-eighties my wife left the house to go shopping with our girls, and forgot to put the alarm on. I came home caught the guy and nearly killed him, and spent the next few months fighting an assault case which I won. I believe people have every right to protect their home and property.
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #71
Depression Level Numbers of 17.5%

Come on down.

Search 54,949 Jobs in Houston, TX

simplyhired.com/a/local-jobs/city/l-Houston,+TX

Google "US Recycling Falls Short" (Too Many to List!)

Did you know that it takes more energy to recycle than just to create a new item? Kind of silly, just wanted to play the devil's advocate for a sec.
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #72
I don't know where you get the 17% unemployment, you should be looking here:

Fair Enough :)

"Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed."

"Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contacted-just as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities."

bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm

U.S. Prison Population Tops 2 Million (Unemployed, But NOT Counted)

usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/aaprisonpop.htm

Come on down.

Heck, if I'm moving to Texas, I want full-time work :)

(Nice State, BTW)
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #73
Heck, if I'm moving to Texas, I want full-time work :)

I know you may not want this job because it's a gas station but just to make my point,, they'll hire you off the street full time with benefits for $10 an hour.

buc-ees.com/locations.htm

I believe people have every right to protect their home and property.

You can shoot trespassers/ burglars in Texas. So don't be snooping around my house at night.

TITLE 2. GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #74
Thanks, Havok. Nice thought...

You know, I had the chance to move to Austin some years back.
The ex-wife wanted to stay in NC; I should have made the move.

I really liked the 'feel' of Austin. I'm sure you know what I mean. :)
pgtx 29 | 3,146
22 Apr 2010 #75
I really liked the 'feel' of Austin. I'm sure you know what I mean. :)

Austin is a great city... many students... full of life place...
Houston isn't that interesting, sorry Havok...
f stop 25 | 2,507
22 Apr 2010 #76
U.S. Prison Population Tops 2 Million (Unemployed, But NOT Counted)

Really! To me, unemployment numbers indicate people who are looking for work and can't find any. You really think that the prisoners should be included??

As a matter of fact, anyone that is NOT looking for work should be excluded!
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #77
Austin is a great city... many students... full of life place...

Yeah... that was it. And the Tex-Mex food. :)

Really! To me, unemployment numbers indicate people who are looking for work and can't find any. You really think that the prisoners should be included??

My only point here was that they, like others, are not counted - not all the 'unemployed' are. This includes those on Welfare.
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #78
Houston isn't that interesting, sorry Havok...

Well I know, Austin is only 3 hours drive from here. Corpus Christi, 4 hours the other way. New Orleans is not far either. I'm set.
richasis 1 | 418
22 Apr 2010 #79
As a matter of fact, anyone that is NOT looking for work should be excluded!

Fair enough. But even with zero unemployment, we still have an Entitlement burden.

Of course, to be sure, this is HARDLY a problem confined solely to the United States.

Did you know that it takes more energy to recycle than just to create a new item?

Like my old quip, "How much energy is expended in conserving it?"
f stop 25 | 2,507
22 Apr 2010 #80
Did you know that it takes more energy to recycle than just to create a new item?

yes, that is probably true, but how does the sea of plastic garbage in the Pacific fit into that equation?
convex 20 | 3,930
22 Apr 2010 #81
Illegal dumping, should be prosecuted to the utmost extent of the law.

Austin is a great city... many students... full of life place...

That used to be the case, still an interesting city though. Wouldn't have any issues moving back.

"Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs.

Spot on. Employees working part time, even a couple hours a week, are employed according to BLS. So are the long term unemployed. The number is close to 17%.

Convex I am sorry to hear about your Mom and Dads troubles, I know how upsetting that can be.

Even worse hearing something like that. Oklahoma has a "make my day" law, the same as in Texas. Only thing is you have to be at home to get a chance to shoot them.

- Most kids I talk to love college.

Less than a third of kids go to college.

I have to agree with you, as I notice the same here. The reason though seems to be that too many people lost their jobs and have no chance to get back on their feet again.

I noticed it during the "good times" as well. It's just much more pronounced now.

It's definately not all bad though. If you want to "make it", it's relatively easy. It just seems that recently the people that busted their asses and are living on a fixed income suffer the most....ah, beautiful inflation.
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #82
Oklahoma has a "make my day" law, the same as in Texas. Only thing is you have to be at home to get a chance to shoot them.

That's why you live in a gated community, neighborhood watchman will shoot that as$hole for ya while you're out. Everyone knows each other here and they won't let your home get robbed in the middle of the day either, shoot first ask questions later.

Lol My 70 year old aunt told me that. She drives like a maniac too, but that’s another story. (yup, She is Polish, mean old lady…)

There is this old saying... You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word….
pgtx 29 | 3,146
22 Apr 2010 #83
neighborhood watchman

how old is he/she? i've met many of them and the average age was 60...
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #84
I didn't say my old aunt works as a neighborhood watchman now did I? I wrote that she likes to say “ shoot first ask questions later.

I felt that this was relevant to the story, meaning my close family shares a similar point of view on things.
pgtx 29 | 3,146
22 Apr 2010 #85
I didn't say my old aunt works as a neighborhood watchman now did I? I wrote that she likes to say “ shoot first ask questions later.

i didn't ask about your aunt... i asked about the age of you watchman...
convex 20 | 3,930
22 Apr 2010 #86
That's why you live in a gated community

Have to be able to afford it first. That's what I was saying about crime being more pronounced now in middle class neighborhoods.
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #87
i didn't ask about your aunt... i asked about the age of you watchman...

I'm not sure, why do you care?
pgtx 29 | 3,146
22 Apr 2010 #88
:) i don't care... i'm just curious how they should protect properties in such old age...
anyway...
convex 20 | 3,930
22 Apr 2010 #89
H&K makes fine devices for assisting the elderly in home defense.
Havok 10 | 903
22 Apr 2010 #90
i'm just curious how they should protect properties in such old age...
anyway...

So, you're just assuming they're old… For argument's sake let’s say he/she is old, why would you think it would matter? You don't believe that some retired police officer at 65 could do the job?


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