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Do the poles like British culture


Douglas24 1 | 5
23 Oct 2012 #1
If you come to live over here for a while do you try an English pub, go to a rock concert, go and watch james bond. Things like james bond are English through and through so do you actually understand that?
ilmc 4 | 136
23 Oct 2012 #2
rock concerts are strictly part of the u.k's culture hmmm news to americans everywhere
OP Douglas24 1 | 5
23 Oct 2012 #3
You know what I mean...English rock bands like queen or pink floyd is that big in Poland?
ilmc 4 | 136
23 Oct 2012 #4
everyone loves james bond
oxon 4 | 164
23 Oct 2012 #5
Invariably, you will find that the answer is no...Polish people do not embrace British culture. (James Bond is just pure drivel.) Eastern Europeans, unlike their American and UK counterparts listen generally to euro trash music and pop. This is not their fault. Blues/Rock/Jazz etc had its roots in America born of the Atlantic slave trade. UK bands like the stones, Beatles, Yardbirds and Cream took their material from early American music and transformed it.

Whilst we lived under capitalism which meant that if you didn't work you would not prosper, music was a release from the 'tyranny' of the conveyor belts and factories and it was also a way to get rich if you were good enough. Under communism, you did as you were told and you meekly obeyed. Your personalities and creative juices were stifled so you all grew up with absolutely no clue about what music was apart from the odd classical.

Who are your fave raves then Douglas? Spice Girls and Justin Bieber?
OP Douglas24 1 | 5
23 Oct 2012 #6
Are you English?

I like the blues, rock and classical like pomp and circumstance.
sofijufka 2 | 191
23 Oct 2012 #7
...Polish people do not embrace British culture

it's not true - just look at the forums like Halsztuk or Północ Południe [earlier: Salon Prawdziwych Dam] or Ogród Jane Austen
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
23 Oct 2012 #8
Under communism, you did as you were told and you meekly obeyed. Your personalities and creative juices were stifled so you all grew up with absolutely no clue about what music was apart from the odd classical.

Total drivel. I apologise for my reaction but I cannot phrase it otherwise. Communism as a system created whole generations of people who would never do as they are told, who came up with ingenious ways of side-stepping and/or disobeying the official rules and regulations, and who even today have a huge problem with obeying authority (any authority).

On the other hand, English people for example are very meek and very obedient as a society. They hate "kicking up a fuss" and are almost genetically incapable of saying "no" to anyone. ;-p
Wroclaw Boy
23 Oct 2012 #9
Do the poles like British culture

I dont think so no, and i dont really give a crap. They are here to earn money plain and simple. Hell who can blame them? If i could go abroad and earn £25 per hour shoveling shite i reckon i could stick that for a couple of years.
Jojo87 - | 1
23 Oct 2012 #10
You are full of crap! I'm Polish and know lots about British culture and embrace it too. So stuff yourself with your stereotyping. Not everyone comes here to just earn money. It's like British people going to live in Spain.he?
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
23 Oct 2012 #11
If i could go abroad and earn £25 per hour shoveling ***** i reckon i could stick that for a couple of years.

This is a valid point, despite what some think. If I could earn £60 an hour in a foreign country for working in a cafe or in a warehouse, instead of what I'm qualified to do, I'd do it for a few years - because I could put a huge deposit down on a house upon return.

It's like British people going to live in Spain

Not exactly - that would be like a Pole selling his house in Poland, paying cash for one over here, and living off their savings.

I apologise for my reaction

Please don't. It's oxon - he doesn't deserve apologies.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,722
23 Oct 2012 #12
This is a valid point, despite what some think. If I could earn £60 an hour in a foreign country for working in a cafe or in a warehouse, instead of what I'm qualified to do, I'd do it for a few years - because I could put a huge deposit down on a house upon return.

Do you think it's possible to actually put much cash away these days?

(haven't been back to the UK for a while, but I'm assured that prices are beyond ridiculous now)
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
23 Oct 2012 #13
It depends on how much you earn, and how you live. Someone who takes home £1200 a month probably can't, but I could easily save 50% of what I earn if I wanted to. I don't drink, smoke or take drugs, I don't eat takeaways (I had some pie & mash today though, and very nice it was too, lol), and I don't go out partying every night.

My biggest non-essential expense is sport-related - I spend 12 hours a week in the pool and 4-6 hours a week in the gym (sometimes more) and the cost of membership + fluids/supplements/clothing soon adds up. But I'm training for competition, so it's worth every penny :)
oxon 4 | 164
24 Oct 2012 #14
Magdalena
On the other hand, English people for example are very meek and very obedient as a society.

I was about to tell you of all the violent protests in the 70's and 80's when I thought that you had a valid point. Yes, the English people of the 21st century have truly shamed themselves by allowing themselves to be invaded by Eastern European parasites, Muslim jihadists and overseen by an EU government so yes you are correct to a point

It's like British people going to live in Spain.he?

Quite wrong there. British people going to live in Spain go there to retire by the sea and they contribute by bringing money in. Yes they interfere with the economy re house prices perhaps, but they do not sponge off the local government or undercut local workers by charging less because they are willing to sleep 8 to a room to cut costs.
Wroclaw Boy
24 Oct 2012 #15
So stuff yourself with your stereotyping. Not everyone comes here to just earn money.

obviously not all Poles but most do, and that goes for pretty much all the immigrants in the UK.

Look at the Mexicans in the States, why do they emmigrate?

It's like British people going to live in Spain.he?

British people goto live in Spain for the weather and a laid back lifestyle, if Poles dont come here for the money then what is their motive? why are you here for example?
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
24 Oct 2012 #16
Eastern European parasites, Muslim jihadists and overseen by an EU government so yes you are correct to a point

I was also thinking of people who spend hours at a doctor's surgery waiting for their turn while their sick child deteriorates with every minute to finally die; people who allow themselves to be kicked off public transport in the middle of the night because they don't have enough change to pay for a ticket, and then get killed on the street; people who follow their sat-nav's instructions so blindly that they drive into the middle of a river, or cause a fatal accident on a roundabout; I could go on.

Questioning authority is just not part of the English mindset. Even if there is some public unrest, it is a very civilised and restrained unrest in comparison to what other nations would do (excluding football hooligans, who seemed to have been neutered by now anyway).
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
24 Oct 2012 #17
have to agree with you there Magda, same as we blindly and unquestioningly cough up for the TV licence fee, never mind the state sponsored child abuse...
oxon 4 | 164
24 Oct 2012 #18
So you say that you are a kind of Pole....are you a half breed? You should all be pretty thankful that the English mindset has deteriorated so much otherwise people would kick up a right stink about the amount of people from foreign shores who are allowed to come here with impunity, take jobs that locals could do or live off benefits.

You have spurred me into action Magdalena for bringing this back into my conciousness regarding the nonchalance of most Brits...thank you. I'm in trouble (again) for sending spoof emails and letters purporting to come from authoritative sources such as MP's and Chief Constables.

Trouble is that house prices being so extortionate here, it's so very easy for police figures to do almost anything here that their leaders tell them to do. No chance here of policemen downing tools and going over to the other side like they do in some countries. With the breakdown in communities and the erosion of family life, pensions and rising house prices are all some people have left.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
24 Oct 2012 #19
So you say that you are a kind of Pole..

do I really? Show me where I have said that.
Right now I am less concerned with house prices and immigration to my shores than I am with trawling the internet with horror and wondering who is running this country and for what.

You/we need some perspective right now Oxon and your neighbour watching Polish tv is quite frankly the least of our worries.
jon357 63 | 14,137
24 Oct 2012 #20
I'm in trouble (again) for sending spoof emails and letters purporting to come from authoritative sources such as MP's and Chief Constables.

Why would you do that?
oxon 4 | 164
24 Oct 2012 #21
do I really? Show me where I have said that.

It's on your profile where you've been asked ..Polish? You've answered ....'kind of'. No matter because you are right when you say you are concerned about who is actually running this country (UK). We all have had EU legislation dumped on us. Almost every decision and law that could be construed as beneficial to the UK people can be effectively overruled by a bunch of faceless bureaucrats having never been anywhere near those shores.

Douglas....People are taken in initially with a genuine header on a letter or email address which looks like it comes from authority. They never question anything anymore and blindly accept all that is put in front of them. When they understand that they have been duped they get angry and report me to the police for writing sensible things.

i.e. A well worded letter from an MP to a landlord housing Eastern Europeans seemingly coming from xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@parliament.gov.uk stating 'for the sake of the UK interests and in view the impending EU referendum, all tenants of Eastern European origin must not be housed in the borough of 'whatever' as from x/x/2012 etc etc.'
delphiandomine 83 | 17,722
24 Oct 2012 #22
Why would you do that?

Life on benefits can be boring, you know. Especially when you prefer benefits to actually finding work.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
24 Oct 2012 #23
It's on your profile where you've been asked ..Polish? You've answered ....'kind of'

We know you're not exactly Mensa material.

However, if you weren't too lazy or stupid to use Google Translate, you would have learned that "Znasz j. polski?" actually means "Do you know Polish?" (i.e., do you know the language).

So the reply "kind of" means that rozumiemnic knows a bit of Polish, not that she is part-Polish, fool.

Now stop the constant attacks on respected female posters, you sad bully.
jon357 63 | 14,137
24 Oct 2012 #24
When they understand that they have been duped they get angry and report me to the police for writing sensible things

You mean they report you to the police when they find you've been impersonating public officials for weird reasons.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
24 Oct 2012 #25
It seems a bit strange, when talking about British culture to stop at James bond, the pub and concerts.
And complain that immigrant/expats don't go for it.
I've lived in England and am thoroughly impressed with the museums (natural, science and world), architecture, the theatres, literature (although language may be a barrier for many Poles) and the history of places.

just thought it worth mentioning that James bond and the sun paper would not be top on my list.

I'm not Polish .
ilmc 4 | 136
24 Oct 2012 #26
just thought it worth mentioning that James bond and the sun paper would not be top on my list

i think the op meant people who have never lived in england and are now just living there.... people who don't live in england and haven't been to england might not know much more about their culture than james bond rock concerts and pubs, although i associate good pubs more with ireland which is a distinctly different culture. So when these people originally go there are they interested in those things or in furthering their knowledge on british cutlure to a level where they realize it is not just james bond rock bands and pubs.
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
24 Oct 2012 #27
That's not the way I read it, Ilmc.

He says " If you come to live over here for a while do you try an English pub, go to a rock concert, go and watch james bond. . Things like james bond are English through and through so do you actually understand that? "

although the way you read it, it makes more sense.

And of course Irish pub are better:-D
ilmc 4 | 136
24 Oct 2012 #28
yeah, maybe i was fixing it for him a bit lol... i will retract and restate... what he op should have said is ( see previous post by me )
jdthebrit 2 | 50
25 Oct 2012 #29
Magdalena is talking gash in my opinion.
It is the Poles who are prepared to lie down and take it up the ass IMO after living in Poland for 20 years.

Brits would never stand for the sort of s hite that the average Pole will resignedly put up with.

Some examples? Police harassment - I always demand their name and badge number. Appalling service at that UK Jewish supermarket chain (it's top notch in the UK but ****ite here), aggressive tailgating and cutting into traffic (which Poles grudgingly accept), bad language in front of women in pubs and restaurants, drunken behaviour going unchallenged in public areas, men urinating and spitting in the street...

And Magda thinks Brits are soft?

LOFL

Sorry I will edit this as the American Polonia are at work again, the tiresome fools....
delphiandomine 83 | 17,722
25 Oct 2012 #30
Brits would never stand for the sort of ****e

What, like the vast network of CCTV and ANPR cameras, like the huge amount of interference in family life by social workers and so on, like the vast amount of public sector incompetence in IT projects and so on? No...never.

Police harassment - I always demand their name and badge number.

I've seen Poles do exactly the same thing.

aggressive tailgating and cutting into traffic (which Poles grudgingly accept),

That's a general Catholic thing, nothing to do with Poles. European Catholics are notorious for this ;)

bad language in front of women in pubs and restaurants

Erm...been out in the UK recently?

drunken behaviour going unchallenged in public areas

Er....clearly you've been in Poland too long.

men ******* and spitting in the street

Much worse to be found on an average Friday night in the UK...

And Magda thinks Brits are soft?

And she's right. Brits have sleepwalked into a Orwellian society where councils run riot over their personal rights, where TV Licencing thugs come and threaten people on their doorstep, where organisations like the RSPCA openly admit that they don't respect people's rights or the law... the list is endless.


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