Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state

15 Jun 2014 #121

No link to an up-to-date, reputable source was provided.

poverty.org.uk/13/index.shtml

jon357 74 | 22,054

15 Jun 2014 #122

Hmm. A lobbying group. Good that you value the opinions and point of view of a liberal pressure group rather than some random conservative source.

Lolek2

15 Jun 2014 #123

if the government told the truth instead of covering up for their own immigration fiasco

THIS IS THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS PROBLEM

Wolf you seemingly have problem with authority. :)

the British welfare system is a far cry from welfare state and as such should be exploit by all untill it will crumble;

Tamarisk

15 Jun 2014 #124

JanIIISobieski wrote:

"These Polish pay taxes into the system, why aren't they entitled to the same rights as British tax payers?

You sound anti-Polish.

I I bet you don't have an issue with Africans, and Pakistanis on benefits, as long as they were born in the U.K?"

I'm actually half Polish and living in Poland right now, so I can honestly say I am not anti-Polish, more like anti-immigrant. I am just sick and tired of ALL immigrants exploiting the UK system of benefits.

As for paying into the tax system, most immigrants are only making minimum wage and in case you don't know, there is a Personal Allowance in the UK so if you earn up to £10,000 no tax is paid.

So the real question we all need to ask is, how much is being received in benefits and how much is being paid in and is it enough to cover the benefits? My guess would be no.

Lolek2

15 Jun 2014 #125

So the real question we all need to ask is,

No the real question we all need to ask is, whether liberal competitive system Britain has been promoting is working for all British people or not. I would think that businesses wouldn't let immgrants into the country if that wouldn't be in their interest.

I agree there is too many foreigners in the country but their presence has little to do with economical conditions of the working class.

jon357 74 | 22,054

17 Jun 2014 #126

So the real question we all need to ask is, how much is being received in benefits and how much is being paid in and is it enough to cover the benefits? My guess would be no.

It hasn't been for years - long before the post-2004 influx of Poles. The state system in the UK, despite constant complaining is actually very good. Especially the healthcare:

Britain's healthcare has been lauded as the best out of 11 of the world's wealthiest countries, following a far-reaching study by a US-based foundation.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/uks-healthcare-ranked-the-best-out-of-11-western-countries-with-us-coming-last-9542833.html

Roger5 1 | 1,448

17 Jun 2014 #127

Somehow I don't think Fox news will be covering this story.

AdamKadmon 2 | 501

17 Jun 2014 #128

England is being stretched almost to the point of economic collapse, joining the EU is going to be their downfall.

Is going to be England's downfall??? When England is going to join the EU?

rozumiemnic 8 | 3,862

18 Jun 2014 #129

it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, not "England" you sillies.