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The more subtle differences: Ireland/Britain v Poland


sascha 1 | 824
7 Nov 2010 #211
Your opinion reflects the average, ignorant version the Poles put out.

I know that the truth hurts. Sorry man.
Btw, I am not Polish.

Poles have never tasted any real traditional English food.

Good for them.

For example English deserts (i.e. various pies, trifles and crumbles) are wonderful. When Poles do have deserts (which is almost never) what they offer up is pathetic.

Man! Desserts. How can you praise desserts. Pies? Muss brechen. What is that at all? That's what you offer is pathetic.

As for the English being fat - have you actually travelled around Poland recently? It's an eye opener. Polish men are fatter than most English men - by a long way. Too often they are a lot more drunk as well. I suppose that comes with the monotonous diet of fat filled sausage, oil fried meat and high cholesterol foods they seem to adore.

No, but the Poles I met during vacation were slim, whereas the UK imports had the weights ;-)
The last statistics I read on the German health institute did not mention fat Poles but fat UKers, yes. On pole position.
Alcohol? What about your pubers? Too much black and white, man.
Read in some yellow press magazine that some 17 year old teenage girl has/had 20ltrs. of vine per week. Not bad. Keep the spirit. ;-)
OP Teffle 22 | 1,321
7 Nov 2010 #212
20ltrs. of vine per week.

In training for Oktoberfest maybe? ; )
sascha 1 | 824
7 Nov 2010 #213
That's mostly for foreigners to test their limits of the liver.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #214
I know that the truth hurts. Sorry man.
Btw, I am not Polish.

Truth? What is your point exactly?

Good for them.

They say ignorance is bliss.

Man! Desserts. How can you praise desserts. Pies? Muss brechen. What is that at all? That's what you offer is pathetic.

You sound a very bitter person. My point was that Polish cooking has nothing to offer in comparison which is as remotely enjoyable.

No, but the Poles I met during vacation were slim, whereas the UK imports had the weights ;-)
The last statistics I read on the German health institute did not mention fat Poles but fat UKers, yes. On pole position.
Alcohol? What about your pubers? Too much black and white, man.
Read in some yellow press magazine that some 17 year old teenage girl has/had 20ltrs. of vine per week. Not bad. Keep the spirit. ;-)

You clearly don't know much about the Poles. I have lived in the country for 20 years and am of English/Polish origin. Polish men as a rule are unfit, uncouth and have no sense of style whatsoever, quite in contrast to Polish women. They have no sense of humour, an over inflated opinion of themselves and their place in the world. They love junk food and above all - strong alcohol in large amounts. Sure there are plenty of Brits who like to drink - but must drink for pleasure and not with the aim of getting drunk. That's why British pubs are such a great institution - they are a place for socialising whilst having a drink or two. Your average Polish man does not drink for pleasure as such, but to "impress" his colleagues through outdrinking them and getting themselves paralytic as fast as possible. It's quite educating watching them at it. I invite you to visit Poland and enjoy the real Polish drinking "experience".
sascha 1 | 824
7 Nov 2010 #215
They say ignorance is bliss.

I say your stupidity stinks...

You sound a very bitter person.

What makes you say that? Not at all.

My point was that Polish cooking has nothing to offer in comparison which is as remotely enjoyable.

Got your point, but I traveled a lot in Poland and never was disappointed in their food and actually what you offer as a comparison is a farce.

You clearly don't know much about the Poles.

I know a lot. Still have friends there.

am of English/Polish origin

Grats for the polish part ;-)

Sure there are plenty of Brits who like to drink - but must drink for pleasure and not with the aim of getting drunk. That's why British pubs are such a great institution - they are a place for socialising whilst having a drink or two.

Your mechanism of seeing Polish and British drinking habits is called splitting. All you do is demonizing it. It seems you dislike your Polish half.

What about the vomiting and stumbling Brits coming out of 'the pub' not knowing where they are...?

Your average Polish man does not drink for pleasure as such, but to "impress" his colleagues through outdrinking them and getting themselves paralytic as fast as possible. It's quite educating watching them at it. I invite you to visit Poland and enjoy the real Polish drinking "experience".

Some kind of 'Western world' phenomenon. In Germany f.e. you can experience the same. What is your point?
Trevek 26 | 1,700
7 Nov 2010 #216
The Polish eat their custard cold. In the Isles, we eat it hot and runny (and frequently lumpy).

Another subtle difference, the Poles have 2 sinks, one for rinsing the Fairy Liquid (Ludwik) off the plates when they wash.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #217
The more subtle differences: Ireland/Britain v Poland.

Cheese cake here in Poland, tastes of freakin cheese (yuck!:)
Trevek 26 | 1,700
7 Nov 2010 #218
... and the Black tea in Poland is, by and large, dishwater. You have to either stew it until the water goes cold or put 2 bags in.

Also, milk in tea is an oddity in Poland. The waitress went into giggles when my 78 year old mother asked for some.
jonni 16 | 2,482
7 Nov 2010 #219
... and the Black tea in Poland is, by and large, dishwater. You have to either stew it until the water goes cold or put 2 bags in.

In Poland I always buy M&S fairtrade. Polish friends love it too

Also, milk in tea is an oddity in Poland. The waitress went into giggles when my 78 year old mother asked for some.

And the worst thing is when they bring a glass of hot water and a seperate tea bag. That is not, not, tea.
Trevek 26 | 1,700
7 Nov 2010 #220
In Poland I always buy M&S fairtrade. Polish friends love it too

Don't have an M&S near me, sadly. My mate gets his family to send him Yorkshire Tea.

And the worst thing is when they bring a glass of hot water and a seperate tea bag.

A bit less common now, but they used to serve hot drinks in a handle-less glass! 1st degree burns all around.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #221
And the worst thing is when they bring a glass of hot water and a seperate tea bag.

I have noticed this changing these days.
I mean for flip sake, you go to a resturant or coffee shop and you pay money and they don't even stick the freakin teabag in the hot water, WTF? :)

I have noticed this is many ex-communist country and I have asked people about it.

A bit less common now, but they used to serve hot drinks in a handle-less glass!

Yep and I don't understand how Poles drink boiling water without the milk to cool it down???
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #222
I say your stupidity stinks..

Your igorance of the subject is breathtaking.

What makes you say that? Not at all.

You mean this is your "natural" state?

Got your point, but I traveled a lot in Poland and never was disappointed in their food and actually what you offer as a comparison is a farce.

Travelling around the country and living there are two different things. If you have "never been disappointed in their food" then lucky for you. I suggest you try one of those revolting jelly covered dishes - or tripe.

Perhaps you had the advantage of being able to return to your normal diet when you returned to your home. I am not saying Polish food is all bad - far from it. I like a lot of it. However, to suggest it is all good is total nonsense. In fact that is as much nonsense as your suggestion that all English food is bad. The truth is that real traditional English food is simply unkown to most Poles and your comment that it is not good food reflects as much your ignorance as it does theirs.

I know a lot. Still have friends there.

Don't kid yourself. If you actually lived in Poland you would soon find out what sort of real "friends" they are. Many Poles simply want to have some connection with somebody from the West because they may benefit from it. It's an unpleasant, but very real phenomenon.

Your mechanism of seeing Polish and British drinking habits is called splitting. All you do is demonizing it. It seems you dislike your Polish half.
What about the vomiting and stumbling Brits coming out of 'the pub' not knowing where they are...?

I was perfectly serious. It shows again your ignorance of the reality of contemporary Poland. Polish men drink to get drunk. They do not drink to spend a pleasant evening over a drink. Yes there are plenty of English drunks - just take a look on any English high street on a Friday or Saturday night. I find it disgusting personally. However, have you seen what happens when Polish men have "a drink"? I doubt it. They drink until they are unconcious. Before they pass out (anywhere - ditches, park benches, stairways, on busses etc..) they engage is loud swearing matches, fights, urinating almost anywhere they can find a spot - the more public the better. The sight is truly obnoxious. I can well understand why Polish women prefer English men - they seem cultured in comparison to the usual apes available t them.

Some kind of 'Western world' phenomenon. In Germany f.e. you can experience the same. What is your point?

My point was very clear. Poles do not drink for pleasure. They drink to get drunk. Read my post again.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #223
kaznoad and sascha, you do realise that you are insulting each other over taste?

Kaznoad doesn't like Polish breakfasts, Sascha likes Polish food.

Another case closed.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #224
Poles eat custard cold - that is correct, although they call it "sos". In any case it is a rarity as is any desert.

As for washing up - you have a point. The fact is normally they do not actually use a sink as a wash basin. They simply run the water and wash everything under the stream. They do not plug up the sink or use a separate sink for rinsing.

When Poles used to visit me in the UK they used to laugh at the separate hot and cold water taps we have. However, in truth when Poles use their mixer taps they have them switched permanently on hot - so the whole point of using a mixer tap to obtain the optimum temperature is ignored.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #225
separate hot and cold water taps

They are ridiculous and deserved all the ridicule they get though.
Scolding or freezing, load of rubbish :)
Bzibzioh
7 Nov 2010 #226
When Poles used to visit me in the UK they used to laugh at the separate hot and cold water taps we have.

Do you mean those are still popular in the UK? I hate them with passion.

I mean for flip sake, you go to a resturant or coffee shop and you pay money and they don't even stick the freakin teabag in the hot water, WTF? :)

I don't want them to put the teabag in: when it's in there for too long, the tea is too strong.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #227
The general idea is to fill the wash basin with water and to wash in that when it is the right temperature. Filling any basin with water is something the Poles are not used to. They prefer to wash under the stream of water whilst it runs straight down the drain. Either system has its faults and merits. The problem is with the user, not the system.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #228
The general idea is to fill the wash basin with water and to wash in that when it is the right temperature.

And do you do that every time you wash your hands?
I didn't.

The problem is with the user, not the system.

Naw, I think two taps are ridiculous not me :)
Bzibzioh
7 Nov 2010 #229
The general idea is to fill the wash basin with water and to wash in that when it is the right temperature.

Ewww, it's disgusting.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #230
Bzibzioh

Which part - using water or a wash basin to actually wash in?
Trevek 26 | 1,700
7 Nov 2010 #231
Poles eat custard cold - that is correct, although they call it "sos". In any case it is a rarity as is any desert.

I thought it was budyn

I don't want them to put the teabag in: when it's in there for too long, the tea is too strong.

But by the time they bring it to you the water is below the best temperature to get a decent brew. best result is near-to-boiling/boiling.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #232
And do you do that every time you wash your hands?
I didn't.

No, but then it depends what you are washing I suppose, as well as how dirty it is. If you look at my previous post what the Poles actually do is have the mixer permanently on hot. So the effect is just the sam as using a hot tap. Now does that sound sensible to you?

Naw, I think two taps are ridiculous not me :)

I am not saying they are better than a mixer. I prefer mixers. Each to his own I suppose.
SeanBM 35 | 5,806
7 Nov 2010 #233
If you look at my previous post what the Poles actually do is have the mixer permanently on hot. So the effect is just the sam as using a hot tap.

Yeah but I live here so I didn't believe that :)

So the effect is just the sam as using a hot tap. Now does that sound sensible to you?

Your comment doesn't sound sensible to me, no :)

I am not saying they are better than a mixer. I prefer mixers. Each to his own I suppose.

I am saying two taps are much worse than mixers.
And while we are talking about it, you have to have a special termostat mixer for the shower. I hate the cheap mixers where the difference between freezing and boiling is a millimetre, it's like cracking a safe :)

This is not a matter of taste, this is an opinionated fact :D
sascha 1 | 824
7 Nov 2010 #234
kaznoad and sascha, you do realise that you are insulting each other over taste?

Good point SeanBM.

I'm not insulting anybody. Simplification just su**s.

Another case closed.

I guess not ;-) He's too obsessed.

Your ignorance of the subject is breathtaking.

Playing 'ping-pong'?

You mean this is your "natural" state?

I'm fine. Thank's for asking.

Perhaps you had the advantage of being able to return to your normal diet when you returned to your home.

Thank's again for your concern, but no, I did not need any diet when returning. I'm 2,00m tall by 95kg, still.

However, to suggest it is all good is total nonsense.

Never said that. I'm sure there is also lousy food, but to take Brits food for comparison which has almost nothing good, beside meat, that's annoying. Your simply not an agricultural country. Not known for it.

Don't kid yourself. If you actually lived in Poland you would soon find out what sort of real "friends" they are. Many Poles simply want to have some connection with somebody from the West because they may benefit from it. It's an unpleasant, but very real phenomenon.

'Nice' stereotypes in direction of the 'poor' Polish people. Sorry, but did you have 'bad' experiences? Did someone use or abuse you?

I can well understand why Polish women prefer English men

They surely have a problem then. Cannot see one good reason why that choice. Send the polish women to the Balkans...

My point was very clear. Poles do not drink for pleasure. They drink to get drunk.

Brits not? They are even 'gentlemen' while filling themselves up? Man, you see the world just in black and white. So full of stereotypes, prejudices about Polish people. Why do you live there at all?

they seem cultured in comparison to the usual apes available t them.

I thought that nickname is already given to the Brits=Islandmonkeys...

dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1262543/Five-thousand-British-students-spark-outrage-drunken-spring-break-Spanish-seaside-resort.html#ixzz0jroFqFYd

British 'cultured gentlemen'.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #235
I thought it was budyn

They use both terms. The Poles make this gue that they call "budyn" as you say, but it is not really custard. Anyway they serve it cold - ugggghhhhh!
Bzibzioh
7 Nov 2010 #236
But by the time they bring it to you the water is below the best temperature to get a decent brew. best result is near-to-boiling/boiling.

Not if they are bringing you water in those little ceramic tea-pots. They come sometimes with the cotton cover.

kaznoad:Poles eat custard cold - that is correct, although they call it "sos". In any case it is a rarity as is any desert.
I thought it was budyn

Yes, budyƄ is custard. Sos is sauce or gravy.

the Poles actually do is have the mixer permanently on hot. So the effect is just the sam as using a hot tap.

Water is supposed to be set on hot in the boiler, you can regulate the temperature in the tap.
kaznoad - | 30
7 Nov 2010 #237
I'm not insulting anybody. Simplification just su**s.

You mean like your simplification that English food is bad?

I guess not ;-) He's too obsessed.

With what exactly?

Playing 'ping-pong'?

I repeat. Your ignorance is breathtaking.

I'm fine. Thank's for asking.

Just an observation. I imagine I am probably not the first.

Thank's again for your concern, but no, I did not need any diet when returning. I'm 2,00m tall by 95kg, still.

I thought you lived in the UK - so how could that be? I think you should know you that I am the Pope.

Never said that. I'm sure there is also lousy food, but to take Brits food for comparison which has almost nothing good, beside meat, that's annoying. Your simply not an agricultural country. Not known for it.

You certainly suggested it. In fact you repeat it agin in this post. Do you make a habit of contradicting yourself? Your last sentence neither makes sense nor is it correct English.

'Nice' stereotypes in direction of the 'poor' Polish people. Sorry, but did you have 'bad' experiences? Did someone use or abuse you?

After 20 years of living there I can say I have had bad and good. I just pointed out an unfortunate reality. You wouldn't know about such things preseumably as you only visit the country for short periods.

They surely have a problem then. Cannot see one good reason why that choice. Send the polish women to the Balkans...

Well you can't see a lot of things from what I can gather from your posts. Perhaps it is you with the problem?

Brits not? They are even 'gentlemen' while filling themselves up? Man, you see the world just in black and white. So full of stereotypes, prejudices about Polish people. Why do you live there at all?

I suppose your impressions must have been gained from the company you like to keep. Time for a change perhaps? Prom your posts it seems to me that it is you with the stereotype and prejudiced views. There is nothing like pontificating about life in Poland when you don't actually live there. I invite you to broaden your mind a little. Come to think of it, if the country is so wonderful why don't you live there and why have so many well educated, skilled and decent Poles left the place to go an live in....England?

I thought that nickname is already given to the Brits=Islandmonkeys...

Sascha. I invite you to broaden your narrow mind and enjoy some Polish "cultural" entertainment! Enjoy also the "sophisticated" language whilst you are at it.

youtube.com/watch?v=cuRIMBCLZ1Q
Trevek 26 | 1,700
7 Nov 2010 #238
Not if they are bringing you water in those little ceramic tea-pots. They come sometimes with the cotton cover.

You obviously drink in more high class establishments than I do ;-)
sascha 1 | 824
7 Nov 2010 #239
You mean like your simplification that English food is bad?

Just a fact. English food IS bad.

I repeat. Your ignorance is breathtaking.

You're becoming a little boring ;-)

Just an observation. I imagine I am probably not the first.

Look closer. I'm fine. Thank's.

Your last sentence neither makes sense nor is it correct English.

Your simply not an agricultural country.

I think you should know you that I am the Pope.

!!??

I thought you lived in the UK - so how could that be?

Thank's, but I enjoy Germany.

Prom your posts it seems to me that it is you with the stereotype and prejudiced views.

Nothing special, if you don't consider more differentiation and other experiences like that.

youtube.com/watch?v=cuRIMBCLZ1Q
Funny clip, but lousy quality. Nothing special. What about 'your' guys in Spain? Nice. 5.000 drunken Brits in a resort. That's cultural exchange.

Perhaps it is you with the problem?

Are you projecting??

the place to go an live in....England

Thank you, again.
kaznoad - | 30
8 Nov 2010 #240
Just a fact. English food IS bad.

Your opinion. - hardly fact.

You're becoming a little boring ;-)

You are good at it too it seems.

Look closer. I'm fine. Thank's.

I'd rather not thank you.

Your simply not an agricultural country.

And that is supposed to mean what exactly?

Thank's, but I enjoy Germany.

Good for you. Do you want a medal?

Nothing special, if you don't consider more differentiation and other experiences like that.

I talk from actual experience. You speculate and have a creative imagination.

Funny clip, but lousy quality. Nothing special. What about 'your' guys in Spain? Nice. 5.000 drunken Brits in a resort. That's cultural exchange.

Ever been to Italy and enjoyed the "company" of Poles. Better still - go to a Polish "football match" - that's if you are brave enough.

Are you projecting??

Just an observation. Is there a problem?

Thank you, again.

About one million Poles can't be wrong I suppose. What's your excuse? As I said if you like Poland so much and think you know it so well - why don't you live there? It's a rhetorical question as I can already guess the answer LOL!


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