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WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM?


Harry
27 Feb 2012 #151
If you are indeed going to emigrate, and oh how we long for that day, may I politely propose the Antarctic? Or perhaps a remote uninhabited island with no internet connection?

Not a bad idea. Perhaps our little Englander can go and live on the island of South Georgia? I'm sure he'd love it there: British territory and not a single non-white permanent inhabitant.
Ironside 53 | 12,357
27 Feb 2012 #152
I'm waiting for some Polish people to agree with me that the UK must get out of Europe. Will I be waiting until I breathe no more?

Must ? Do whatever floats your boat, get out of Europe, deport all immigrants be it from EU or other countries, import penguins or whatever.
Do not whine, isult, sneer and write bollox here.
The fact is that Poles are not doing anything illegal or sinister by working in the UK, using benefits or whatnot. Win election, implement your changes and be done with it.

Until then hit the sack after your daily dose of cocaine intake instead of trolling here, Mr sip..sip superior.
oxon 4 | 164
27 Feb 2012 #153
Do not whine, isult, sneer and write bollox here.
The fact is that Poles are not doing anything illegal or sinister by working in the UK, using benefits or whatnot.

This is the whole point of the debate Ironhead. I never accused Eastern migrants of anything illegal. What disgusts me is how not only me but my forefathers have been betrayed by the spineless, mercenary, career politicians whose first duty is to protect its citizens and secondly its currency. They have done the latter extremely well all right. Anyone belonging to a profession (and there are only five in case any misguided soul considers him/herself one ) should be able to apply for a position in any country he/she chooses as long as that position cannot be filled adequately by its members of its own public.

What we do not need is people here from ex communist countries doing jobs here that our own citizens can do. Sure they are grateful at first. UK is mighty big Utopia to begin with and they are all happy smiley and ever so friendly .....until they grow in numbers and realise that they have more power than the average UK citizen in terms of what and what we can't say to them .

I have and never will have anything in common with Eastern Europeans. That is fact. I do not like them or there demeanour but that is just my opinion.

How would you all react I wonder should 2 million Brits arrive at your doorstep and start to claim benefits?
Harry
27 Feb 2012 #154
What we do not need

What you need is to get off your arrse and get a job instead of sponging of the state and whining about how an immigrant took your job. People like you remind me of why I left England in the first place.
oxon 4 | 164
27 Feb 2012 #155
People like you remind me of why I left England in the first place.

And I have no doubt that you would love to come back except that you can't afford it and deep down you know that the UK has gone belly up. Mass migration has totally ruined this country and if you came back 'arry , I will take you along to my meetings just to give you an idea of what some people here intend to do about it. We are not all lazy good for nothings you know.
Harry
27 Feb 2012 #156
And I have no doubt that you would love to come back except that you can't afford it

I can most certainly afford it thanks, some of us work (hard and well).

deep down you know that the UK has gone belly up. Mass migration has totally ruined this country and if you came back 'arry

I very much enjoyed my years of living in a part of England where I rarely heard English being spoken on the streets. The most unattractive part of England would be the extremist twats who need to be deported for the good of the nation. Personally I'd introduce mandatory public service in South Georgia for five years for all BNP supporters (and five years in Saudi Arabia for all supporters of the Muslim equivalent).

We are not all lazy good for nothings you know.

No, some of you are the kind of pathetic tossers who get their jollies from whispering threats into the ears of women they have never met.
Ironside 53 | 12,357
27 Feb 2012 #157
What disgusts me is how not only me but my forefathers have been betrayed by the spineless, mercenary, career politicians whose first duty is to protect its citizens and secondly its currency.

Somehow you are not writing about them here but about your perceived superiority and scorn for immigrant based only on the fact that you are native to your boondocks.

I agree that British politicians are traitorous and false as they come. The point is you wouldn't be any better.
oxon 4 | 164
27 Feb 2012 #158
I'm not sure what industry you 'work hard' in 'arry but I will take your word that it is not some kind of service orientated, marketing, advertising bulldust industry that serves no useful purpose other than to inflict the dumb masses with momentary lapses of worthlessness whilst instilling grandiose expectations of materialistic superiority.

You sound rather genuine to me 'arry but i do wonder why you would send British Nationalist to a place like South Georgia. Would it be to meet South Georgian nationalists and swap Powerpoint presentations?

Like i have emphasized many times now, there is no need for threats. My behaviour is a ploy which should I make public to more than one person will see me quite possibly incarcerated.

You are losing face here 'arry but you may continue with your rhetorical, clichéd nonsense.
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
27 Feb 2012 #159
What we do not need is people here from ex communist countries doing jobs here that our own citizens can do

The vacancies were there before the Poles came. There were still plenty of citizens on the dole.
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
27 Feb 2012 #160
There is someone losing face here alright...pretty certain it's not Harry though...
f stop 25 | 2,507
28 Feb 2012 #161
I have and never will have anything in common with Eastern Europeans.

what are you doing here, then?
Meathead 5 | 469
28 Feb 2012 #162
The whole thread is an example of the class system in England and how the upper and middle classes treat the working class with absolute contempt. The Polish immigrant is caught in the middle. They were brought in solely to give the finger to the working class. One of the few political outlets that the working class has is going on strike and acting difficult on the job but they even took that away by bringing in the Poles. Your safely ensconced in Florida and far away from this nonsense, count your blessings.
modafinil - | 419
28 Feb 2012 #163
From the Institute of Public Affairs,2010

Almost all Britons unanimously accept tourist travel to the UK by Poles and have nothing against Poles as neighbours or friends. What is more, Britons accept Poles as family members. One third of interviewees do not want Poles to settle for good in Britain. Britons perceive the short term presence of Poles in UK (economic migration) much more positively than their settling down for good and participating in social and political life

The typical Polish migrant is an unqualified worker - over 75% of respondents expressed such an opinion. What's more, not only do they undertake the most difficult jobs, but they also do them conscientiously and well: their work is highly regarded by employers. On the other hand, however, this conscientious and cheap worker is taking work from Britons - so say almost 60% of respondents. At the same time, nearly 70% of British employers are satisfied with Poles' work

On balance, the presence of Poles in the United Kingdom is viewed positively: over half of Britons consider that opening of the labour market to Poles was the right decision,with one third of Britons strongly agreeing with this statement.

Poles are well-liked by the British in personal relations and accepted as members of British society

scribd.com/doc/57990284/The-Perception-of-Poland-and-Poles-in-the-UK
Alligator - | 259
28 Feb 2012 #164
Another eyeopening excerpt from the survey:

"On the whole, immigrants from the ‘new’ member states of the EU did not rush to col-lect welfare benefits across the EU. Do Poles contribute more to the British social welfaresystem than they take from it? A report published by the British Centre for Research andAnalysis of Migration (CreAM) makes it very clear that Poles and immigrants from other‘new’ member states pay more into the state budget than they receive from it. This is due,amongst other things, to higher employment rates and the fact that they seldom apply forwelfare benefits. By comparison, 90% of immigrant men and 74% of women work, whereasthe corresponding figures for the working-age British population are 78% for men and 71%for women respectively. Moreover, according to CreAM, the probability that migrantsfrom the A8 countries (who have worked at least a year in Britain) will collect welfare ben-efits or live in council housing is 60% smaller than in the case of native British citizens."
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012 #165
I don't seem to remember being asked my opinion in this wonderfully biased report by Joanna Fomina, Justyna Frelak called 'The Perception of Poles in Great Britain' which is funded by the University of Finland.

It's important to remember that all polls need funding and it's the agenda of the company funding the analysis or report that must be examined. I could spend a life time asking institutions media and people in the street if they know anything or were consulted regarding perception of Poles in the UK and I most certainly would draw a blank.

Instytut Spraw Publicznych did not publish this report because it was full of negativity about Poles in Britain did they? Now there is a huge surprise. I hope the family of the victims get consulted for their opinion..

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-17055609
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012 #166
Presented with hard facts, and you try and weasel your way out of it. This may be something of an eye opener but those surveys only confirm what everyone else pretty much higher knew anyway - your 'views' are not representative of the wider public opinion. Thank the gods.

I'm guessing that you will try pass this off claiming the majority are sheep, that all the facts represented are due to some kind of Polish-Zionist conspiracy and that only you and your friends in UKIP and the BNP see the 'truth'. Crackpot.
Harry
28 Feb 2012 #167
lapses of worthlessness whilst instilling grandiose expectations of materialistic superiority.

No, it is nothing like that.

i do wonder why you would send British Nationalist to a place like South Georgia. Would it be to meet South Georgian nationalists and swap Powerpoint presentations?

a) You'd like it there: there are no non-British people living there.
b) You'd be a long way away from the rest of us.
A true win-win situation.

My behaviour is a ploy which should I make public to more than one person will see me quite possibly incarcerated.

Your behaviour shows you as exactly what you are: a disgrace to your race and to your country.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012 #168
You seem very naive badmonkey....incredibly so. Do you know what a think tank is? They are lobbyists whose sole function in life is to pester politicians with enough material and opinion to make them change or alter some sort of traditional policy or viewpoint that has been seen as normal for a long time.

And then once this happens it opens your eyes as to who funds those grotesquely named 'think tanks'. At the end of that document I read it stated that it was written and constructed by the 'University of Finland'. Now, what you should do brainless monkey is to get hold of the two people mentioned at the top of the paper and the Finnish university and ask them where they got the funds to conduct such a poll.

A lot of time, materials and coverage and that costs money. Just the same when the pharmaceutical companies come out with a new wonder drug. They have an independent body of 'experts' who analyse and write about the wonders of this new drug praising t to the hilt. Then you go to companies house or the British Library and ....shock horror.... the Independent company are funded by the very self same pharma company.

You come back when you are all grown up
JonnyM 11 | 2,615
28 Feb 2012 #169
They are lobbyists whose sole function in life is to pester politicians with enough material and opinion to make them change or alter some sort of traditional policy or viewpoint that has been seen as normal for a long time.

Most lobbyists aren't think tanks and most think tanks aren't lobbyists.

Your behaviour shows you as exactly what you are: a disgrace to your race and to your country.

Yes. An oxygen thief.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2012 #170
Do Poles contribute more to the British social welfaresystem than they take from it?

There is more expense to the state, than just welfare benefits.

Do police work for free? Nurses, midwifes, doctors, school teachers, interpreters, street sweepers?

Does tap water magically appear? Does the sanitation system run by itself? Roads build themselves? Schools, hospitals just mushroom out of the ground?

Nice of them to not include these things in their study.

Not that a government sponsored state body would have an agenda or anything like that........
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012 #171
Oh Oxon Oxon, I am beginning to pity you. I really am.

Narrow minded, paranoid beyond belief, unable to adapt to change and completely ill suited to surviving in the modern world. You're a virtual dinosaur, one whose ilk are likewise dying out as they suffer from the tortuous process of trying to justify why they can't find work (varies from day to day between 'not wanting to work for THE MAN' to 'unable to get a job because of those bloody immigrants') when in fact the fact is, it's their attitudes and actions which make them unemployable.

I'm not sure if medication or counseling is the way forward, or indeed has already been proposed, a long term 'retreat' off South Georgia. Either way, the sooner you realize that the answer to your ills is located far closer to home that 'those damn foreigners' the better for you. And indeed the better for all of us as we no longer have to put up with your fantastical paranoia and self-delusional rants.
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012 #172
I'm not sure what your vested interests are monkey in seeing the degenerating decay of this nation. Maybe you have a Polish wife or live there ar have a young Polish pretty boy to comfort you in times of distress...I don't know. Maybe you rely on Polish money from Polish people in Poland to keep your brain generating enough power to keep your legs moving one after the other.

You may hate Britain and remain apathetic to all the degenerates coming here but please.........do not tarnish us all with the same train of thought. Some of us here are MEN.
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012 #173
At least one of us has lost theirs RN :D

(and no, I hate to disappoint but self relief doesn't count. Still, it's a modern world, and you and Oxon would make a cute couple. And one (luckily) where offspring are unlikely.

Just to add I have no issues with Britain, nor the majority of those live in her - indeed there are many fine British posters on the site. I may disagree with them on certain points, but can at least argue rationally with them, knowing that either they or I may be swayed by rational thoughts and facts.

Sadly however you, and indeed R.N. are the sort of people I despise, irrespective of their nationality. Any facts which prove you wrong are obviously tainted in some way, yet you can produce none of your own which stand up to the most cursory of scrutiny. The vast majority of your posts, irrespective of how they are worded, are the outpourings of a bigot and a fascist. Do I have issues with bigots and fascists? Most certainly. Indeed all decent people do, irrespective of nationality or creed.

There is perhaps nothing so sad or as pitiful as a person who denies the truth, so lost have they become in a tissue of lies of their own making
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2012 #174
At least one of us has lost theirs RN :D

And thus speaks the open borders fanatic.

Open the borders so some foreign girl, uncomfortable in her new surroundings and not up to speed with the local lingo, will open her legs for me.

As the locals sure as hell wont.

I hate to disappoint but self relief doesn't count.

My culchie amigo, I was sowing me oats and playing the field as a teen, whilst you were sowing oats. In your daddies field.
thebadmonkey 2 | 71
28 Feb 2012 #175
Ah RN, I am indeed happily married to a Pole. One more educated than you, who, based on your posts to date is more fluent in English than you and who adds is more involved in the local community in Ireland more than you. Is that a source of shame? Hardly. Hell if nothing else it widens the gene pool.

And your boasts of sowing your oats have an empty ring about it , do they not? It seems as if they are but distant memories.... which sadly make sense. Anyway who spends much time with one such as you is quite likely to leave at the first available opportunity.

By all means you can try drag the thread down to your level. You have yet to produce any argument which stands up to any form of scrutiny. It begs the question - why are you here since you have so little to offer? You're obviously incapable of rational thought which is why I for one will not be revisiting this thread. Let it die a lingering lonely death, much as those suffered by all narrow minded idiots who fail to evolve.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2012 #176
who adds is more involved in the local community in Ireland more than you

Lol. I doubt that. But entertain me here, in what capacity is she involved in the local community?

Siphoning off benefits doesnt count.

PS- If you are gonna slag off somebodies literacy, try and avoid spelling errors!
oxon 4 | 164
28 Feb 2012 #177
Ah RN, I am indeed happily married to a Pole.

This is what has tainted your thoughts Monkeybrains. I have expressed my thoughts and opinions in a coherent fashion yet you choose to ignore everything that doesn't sit well with you as maniacal ranting. OK, it's fine , I understand that you are subjugated and cannot form a nationalistic viewpoint but others are not as weak as you Monkey.

I don't sell my soul for a bit of 'leg over' once a week. I don't distort my personality just because I can't get it on with women from my own country. You might find what I say disgusting but is it more disgusting than seeking out a woman from a foreign speaking country knowing that she will be overwhelmed by your status in life. Does she speak English ?

Usually grown men with low self esteem go for Thai or Chinese women knowing that they will always be the masters. You went for Pole.
Harry
28 Feb 2012 #178
This is what has tainted your thoughts Monkeybrains. I have expressed my thoughts and opinions in a coherent fashion

No, you have told us how you are so limited that the bravest thing you can do is whisper threats into the ears of those weaker than you. Not exactly thoughts, or coherent.

I don't distort my personality just because I can't get it on with women from my own country.

At least we now know the source of all your frustrations.

Usually grown men with low self esteem go for Thai or Chinese women knowing that they will always be the masters.

Does that explain the time you supposedly spent working in SE Asia?
teflcat 5 | 1,032
28 Feb 2012 #179
Does that explain the time you supposedly spent working in SE Asia?

Can't bring myself to use the abbreviation, so I'll say that that made me laugh.
In my relationship my Polish wife has at least as much say in how we do things as I do. I haven't told her that the cops hit me for six points and 200PLN for speeding today as I am not fond of being nagged. Is it so different elsewhere?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,854
28 Feb 2012 #180
how you are so limited that the bravest thing you can do is whisper threats into the ears of those weaker than you

Whom was threatened?


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