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The number of Anti-English Poles...


Wroclaw Boy
3 Jun 2010 #121
HA HA HA Gregy you caused an almighty shi*te storm and your now your like "well i only said this" ha ha crazy

Come on now in all fairness somebody did tell him to "Fcuk off back to his own country" and that started it.

He's totally entitled to his opinions and i dont think he voiced it an particularly aggressive manner either, it was like 6 against 1!

Its true - Poland takes a damn good bashing on here quite often, but the minute a Pole says a negative word about the UK wham theres a virtual linching.

As i said before its good to see Poles living in the UK on here, i dont understand why there isnt more. Actually i do, there all down the pub... lucky buggers..

KirkhamWesham:
The number of Anti-English Poles...
is likely smaller than the number of anti-Polish Anglos.

By millions but then again what reasons would the Poles have to be anti English? Its not as if millions of us are here (Poland) taking their jobs and utilising vital financial resources. We do steal their women though, id be p1ssed about that if i were Polish.
Mr Grunwald 25 | 1,717
3 Jun 2010 #122
The number of Anti-English Poles...

something near 40 million I think

Has anyone noticed the large number of anti-English Polish guys in the UK?

Ooooohh that should shorten it down a bit

Hey - what's your problem with small towns? K! S! KSG! KS Gryf Słupsk - OLE!!! ;)

K! S! KSP! Ey Polonia! OLE! :D
(Polonia Warszawa gdybyś nie wiedział)

The main problem with Slupsk is that it's an utter shiithole and it's full of twats.

Don't they have anything? :/

How many Poles is there now in U.K? Can't be too many..
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #123
I'd say that the number of Brits living in council housing in Poland could be counted on the fingers of one badly frost-bitten hand.

you are correct here but for a different reason
Poland doesn't have as big council housing as UK does.

Most of the block of flats you see in Poland have been administered by 'spoldzielnie mieszkaniowe' for ages (even in PRL) which are equivalent of housing associations here in the UK. Proportion of HAs properties in Poland to typical 'council housing' ones is reversed to the UK ones.

Council properties in Poland used to be complete s-holes in very nice old buildings and town houses, usually in city centres and occupied by the scummiest of scum. You wouldn't want to walki in an area like that.

Since 1990 most of these properties are being reclaimed of course so it often happens that 'miasto' (local authority) puts some of them in HAs - exactly the same mechanism/process as in the UK. We let you build here but x% of flats will be for people we need to re-house.

edit - so my point is that I suspect there's no Brit living in a council property in Poland :)
Wroclaw Boy
3 Jun 2010 #124
edit - so my point is that I suspect there's no Brit living in a council property in Poland :)

Which basically translates to virtualy no benefit in Poland and what there is is diabolical and here we have a Pole in the UK compalining that he cant get a free flat and money out of England.

Council properties in Poland used to be complete s-holes in very nice old buildings and town houses

Thats not really true, my current house, the palace i live in at the moment was ocupied by such state housed families. There were around 7 apartments in the main house and around 10 in the outbuildings, i have renovated the entire house and obviously seen first hand the previous living conditions - not too bad at all.

The previous tenents were responsible for interior decoration and most had all the mod cons, not dishwashers and such but the basics. Since living here it seems every man and their dog locally has lived here at some point and most are working class respectable people, which kind of disputes your:

and occupied by the scummiest of scum. You wouldn't want to walki in an area like that.

Amathyst 19 | 2,702
3 Jun 2010 #125
Maybe you should have put as much effort in to finding a job, you sound like the kind of Poles we really dont want here..

Where there's blame there's a claim...

Please go back to Poland..This arogant English person would rather not have some gobshite like you living on her Island.

I understand them but why british people allowed asiatic mafia to take over DWP????

What are you talking about you halfwit!

but why they did not asked me for this in 2004?and why everything was ok for 6 years and suddentlu is not?

You sound like some 3rd world immigrant..Are you sure you're Polish?

Poland doesn't have as big council housing as UK does.

To be honest, England doesnt have a great deal of "council" housing stock, a large proportion has been sold off to housing associations, to private buyers (right to buy) and to private developers so the proportion of council housing stock is relavitely low in comparison to what it was 10 years ago. There are areas in London where the waiting list is 20 years!

So if this turd from Poland reckons he has some right because he happens to want to milk the cash cow then he is sadly mistaken...
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #126
Wroclaw Boy

Of course can't talk for the whole of Poland, but it was the tendency back in 70s. and 80s. and something what I saw in my home town, towns I visited and town where I studied.

But as I say - pre 1992
Wroclaw Boy
3 Jun 2010 #127
But as I say - pre 1992

Communist Poland then basically, i cant be bothered to research that i'll just have to take your word for it.
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #128
Wroclaw Boy

:) even in communist Poland we've had HAs, called spoldzielnie mieszkaniowe, which weren't administered by local authorities. They were the first ones starting to sell of their stock to resident.

Hosuing stock managed by authorities was, and still is, called 'mieszkania komunalne/kwaterunkowe'.

To be honest, England doesnt have a great deal of "council" housing stock,

Still the proportion of HAs to council housing is bigger in Poland than in the UK. I dare to say that as I've worked on various housing stock transfer, including PFIs and ALMOs, and I've worked for HAs, ALMOs and various housing departments.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
3 Jun 2010 #129
Still the proportion of HAs to council housing is bigger in Poland than in the UK. I dare to say that as I've worked on various housing stock transfer, including PFIs and ALMOs, and I've worked for HAs, ALMOs and various housing departments.

You missed my point:

My point was that we have less council housing stock (longer lists as you will be aware if you have worked for a social housing department), we dont build council houses any longer all we do is transfer stock or sell it off to council tenants or private investors for re-development - it wasnt really a comparison/competition of what we have here in the UK and what you have in Poland, that's not really my concern and nor will it ever been since I have no intention of moving to Poland to live in a council house and cry about not getting benefits ;0)

I work for an ethnical employer

What the fook is one of those?
dtaylor5632 18 | 2,007
3 Jun 2010 #130
What the fook is one of those?

IT is a person who sacks you, then out of guilt for your Polish girlfriend depending on your extra tips for living, resigns himself and offers you his job ;) :P :D
Harry
3 Jun 2010 #131
I have no intention of moving to Poland to live in a council house and cry about not getting benefits ;0)

That's good: you've got no chance of getting benefits or free housing in Poland. If a Brit can't prove that he's got a place to stay (i.e. signed contract with a landlord, something Poles are not required to show), he can't even legally remain in Poland.
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #132
My point was that we have less council housing stock (longer lists as you will be aware if you have worked for a social housing department)

Yep, missed your point, but mine was simply stating the fact that we do not have a huge number of council housing in PL (compare to the UK) therefore no Brit would be ever able to live in one. :)
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #133
Maybe you should have put as much effort in to finding a job, you sound like the kind of Poles we really dont want here..

ooooooo..."WE" means who?ugly fat,unemloyed b...es?-Mayby you should find yourself a job...i see you posting here on this forum all day...let me guess-JSA??? so is it why you are bit...ng about poles in the UK?I have a job..

As for my problems with UK institutional racism of Police. DWP,Council ect.-nothing justify shi..y treatment of poles in UK.not even your shity opinion...It was not fair towards british population in UK that i applied for council flat soon after i arrive here,but still it does give them a right to act against the law....

You sound like some 3rd world immigrant..Are you sure you're Polish?

You sound like a looser
2 round
Wroclaw Boy
3 Jun 2010 #134
let me guess-JSA???

DWP,Council ect

Ive lived in the UK most of my life and still had to think what these abbreviations meant. It comes so naturally to this Polish guy thats been here for a few years, whats does that tell you?

Man we need to firm up.

These guys know all the tricks in the book, just like back in Poland where they'll scam the very socks of your feet.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #135
Ive lived in the UK most of my life and still had to think what these abbreviations meant. It comes so naturally to this Polish guy thats been here for a few years, whats does that tell you?

Wroclaw Boy i already told you i use to work i charity org. as a support worker and project worker.....my responsibility was to provide help to polish people in terms of gaining qualifications,benefit entitelments,training in health and safety,ect.ect.

besides i lived in the uk for last 7 years continusly but been here in 1999 2001 2002
if you have nothing interesting to say-do not
you have no idea of problems that poles facing in UK,so dont dare to tell them to shut up...
Harry
3 Jun 2010 #136
my responsibility was to provide help to polish people in terms of gaining qualifications,benefit entitelments,training

So basically your job was training immigrants how to scrounge the absolute maximum from the British taxpayer. Nice one. And you have the front to whine about not getting as much from the British taxpayer as you think you should have had. Have you ever considered that the reason people act towards you in a certain way might not be because you're a Pole but might instead be because you're a cuunt?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #137
my main responsibilyty was to train them in workshop for healt safety,diy skills.decorating skills...but i use to refer poles to benefit advisors i i felt they could be entiteled....

i do not whine about me not getting benefits as save once i never needed them....merely give some examples of antipolish discriminatory policy in many institutions...

i had onece guy who worked 4 years as self employed,fell from the scaffold,damaged his bacbone and end up 4 weeks in the hospital...once got better they just kicked him out from hospital giving hanfull of pills and he end up sliping rough,in the mean time landlord throw out his belongings.....no professional walfare help,and he was entitle.....would never happened to anyone from EU,but can **** up poles-no problem
SouthMancPolak - | 104
3 Jun 2010 #138
antipolish discriminatory policy

So you claim that there are many "anti-Polish" policies in the UK workplace.

In that case, can you explain why, between 1940 and 2004, so many Polish people have managed to to become nurses, teachers, social workers, doctors, dentists, plumbers, electricians, factory foremen, builders, engineers, pharmacists, or trained in many other skilled occupations or professions - some even became even politicians!

I have been two of the above.

If there is so much discrimination against Poles in the UK, how come we aren't all cleaners, at best?

It's hardly our fault that the country seems to be hell-bent on importing thousands of Poland's dresiarze these days - useless to Poland, useless to the UK!

And it's only really been since 2004 that we've had to put up with so much Polish whining!
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #139
2007 strawbery fields in kent moorgate: 400 east european employed be "mansfield" company..were drag from poland with promis of minimal wage..end up in moorgate working 16 hr a day-wage?instead of minimal wage they got price work,best one could top up 12 pounds for a day....about 80 pence an hour...those people were sleeping in the park,could not affort accomodation.but keep working becouse superviser "promised"them ther will be more money on cherries once strawbery is done.....was on sky news,this chap even after enquiry on minister level did not even received a fine....

its true that lots of poles are sucssesfull in the uk but it is loooots of sh...t,especially in DWP
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #140
had onece guy who worked 4 years as self employed,fell from the scaffold,damaged his bacbone and end up 4 weeks in the hospital..

and probably had no insurance whatsoever just whatever he was paying in NI contribution

see? that's the problem gregy; if he got some kind of professional insurance as self-employed he wouldn't have this problem as and he'd be insured from accidents, death and also receive a weekly payment if he was unable to do the job. All from an insurance which cost - depending on trade - from £400 to £2000 per year.

OFF TOPIC - why gregy and Amethyst are highlighted black? Are they blacklisted or something?
edit - not anymore
Trevek 26 | 1,702
3 Jun 2010 #141
2007 strawbery fields in kent moorgate: 400 east european employed be "mansfield" company..were drag from poland with promis of minimal wage..end up in moorgate working 16 hr a day-wage?instead of minimal wage they got price work,best one could top up 12 pounds for a day....about 80 pence an hour...those people were sleeping in the park,could not affort accomodation.

That's just a corrupt employer ripping off gullible foreigners. Not anti-Polish racism. If it wasn't poles it would have been somebody else. That kind of thing was happening years before Poland joined EU... a lot of the people who did the recruitment came from the home countries and ripped off their own people.

once got better they just kicked him out from hospital giving hanfull of pills and he end up sliping rough,

Again, that happens to plenty of Brits too. The Polish didn't invent mass homelessness in UK.

"Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London (Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester etc), I'll show you something to make you change your mind!"
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #142
That's just a corrupt employer ripping off gullible foreigners. Not anti-Polish racism. If it wasn't poles it would have been somebody else. That kind of thing was happening years before Poland joined EU... a lot of the people who did the recruitment came from the home countries and ripped off their own people.

yes true but i am talking about goverment taking ******* this company wasnot fined,and even forced by minister lord rookey to top up their wages to a minimum,they did not do it?allowed to continue whithout a fine?do it to a blacks and u have international scandal.

and probably had no insurance whatsoever just whatever he was paying in NI contribution

do not remember if he had insurance-from what i know self employed do pay insurance as well,not to mantion it could be a fault of his employer safe and healthy issue.but this guy was not even offered a professional advice.

"Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London (Glasgow, Liverpool, Manchester etc), I'll show you something to make you change your mind!"

i seen that,i worked in social....

Again, that happens to plenty of Brits too. The Polish didn't invent mass homelessness in UK.

ok,but:

day centre in victoria in 2006 denied any help or access for homeless from east europe
now imagine if thye denied access to blacks,what would happened next?-international scandal
Trevek 26 | 1,702
3 Jun 2010 #143
day centre in victoria in 2006 denied any help or access for homeless from east europe

Really? Do you have proof that was official policy? That's horrendous?
Wroclaw Boy
3 Jun 2010 #144
Wroclaw Boy i already told you i use to work i charity org. as a support worker and project worker.....my responsibility was to provide help to polish people in terms of gaining qualifications,benefit entitelments,training in health and safety,ect.ect.

Ohh i bet it was, how much did you charge per Polish person i met Poles like you in the UK fcuking over your own people. You must be driving a fcuking Ferrari by now.

i lived in the uk for last 7 years continusly but been here in 1999 2001 2002

Sowing the seeds........

Sorry Gregy but ive seen the Polish ads in Polish papers over the years ie, "pay us £150, sort out your coach ticket and we'll meet you at Victoria station", then nothing happens. You Poles are the scam artists of scam artists ive seen them all and im sure you have too. Bribing Doctors to Driving instuctors to Police, evertything can be bought, you seem like a decent bloke but im gald your having a hard time, it shows atleast that the UK government is doing somerthing at last.

Tell me something I dont know buddy about Poland.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,254
3 Jun 2010 #145
a large proportion has been sold off to housing associations

Some of the stories I hear about these "housing associations" make me sick - even down to the way that they aggressively enforce the collection of rent arrears, even when the tenants are vulnerable and in need of support.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
3 Jun 2010 #146
gregy741:
Wroclaw Boy i already told you i use to work i charity org. as a support worker and project worker.....my responsibility was to provide help to polish people in terms of gaining qualifications,benefit entitelments,training in health and safety,ect.ect.

Ohh i bet it was, how much did you charge per Polish person i met Poles like you in the UK fcuking over your own people. You must be driving a fcuking Ferrari by now.

what are you taking about?!!!!!!!!
charity does not charge moron,it gets money from goverment for providing help for communites

but im gald your having a hard time, it shows atleast that the UK government is doing somerthing at last.

got to dissapoint you-do not have hard time,but your comments show your true nationalist,antypolish colours.
i hope polish ******* you up one day...as brits say:whats goes around comes around
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
3 Jun 2010 #147
aggressively enforce the collection of rent arrears, even when the tenants are vulnerable and in need of support.

very true; databases are not updated by council employees so you end up with stories like 'my father has been dead for two years and they sent summons' or about insensitivity of council staff in papers. The communications is usually broken and 'knowledge/info sharing' is non-existent. Sometimes within department and sometimes among the,

Which mirrors the information sharing (not) within governmental agencies and departments
Harry
4 Jun 2010 #148
.as brits say:whats goes around comes around

I really hope it does; however, in Poland every month I pay enough tax to pay for more than the salaries of three nurses and a doctor but last time any of my family needed health care here my partner spent five days on a trolley in a hospital corridor. Let me know when the tens of thousands I pay every year in Poland entitles me for even a fraction of what a wetback pawel like you teaches your kind to get in Britain for paying nothing and crying about racism.
zuczek 3 | 52
4 Jun 2010 #149
Why did you go to a govt hospital? I always used private ones and the prices were not bad. I would only go to a govt hospital when the private doctor I had worked there also and it was cheaper that way. Five days is criminal.
nincompoop_not 2 | 192
4 Jun 2010 #150
but last time any of my family needed health care here my partner spent five days on a trolley in a hospital corridor. L

tell me about it. I still have a Polish passport (ok, temp one) but I was initially refused to be seen by a doctor in a hospital (emergency) because....I didn't have Polish ZUS.

I told them I have mt Polish passport and Poland has got agreement with the Uk since 1990s. about exchange of medical healthcare and they were saying - no, no,no

cos i didnt have 1/ EHIC card (didnt need it before 2004); 2/ no ZUS number. 3/nothing whatever they asked me for

the funniest thing - they did have my records as I was in tihs hospital 3 times before


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