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How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here?


Szalawa 2 | 240
13 May 2016 #91
Yes, well you all have valid pints, especially bgf, I feel like I should lead by example and get my ass back to Poland.
Honest Pole
13 May 2016 #92
Poles who are alreadt there but can't reliably support themselves will be deported instead of relying on benefits like now and also immigration into UK will become much harder.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
13 May 2016 #93
Poles who are already there but can't reliably support themselves will be deported

Yes likewise non contributing brits will be deported from Poland
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
13 May 2016 #94
likewise non contributing brits will be deported from Poland

As they should be. There's quite a few tax-dodging scum here who are self-employed in the UK and duck paying a thing to the Polish taxpayer.
européen
20 May 2016 #95
Merged: Cameron's pro-Europe campaign

The level of UK's European debate makes me feel sick. The public appears to know nothing about Europe apart from xenophobic slogans. They don't even understand the basics of maths. The UK's Prime Minister in his attempt to win a few more votes for the pro-EU party said in a populistic manner: "Whether it is music or film, art or video games, the UK leads Europe" - I am very curious to know how many French movies Mr. Cameron has watched, how many Italian art galleries he has visited, how many German video games he has played and how much of a listener to Bulgarian music he is. Or is it that his knowledge of the European culture is similar to that of an average British person?
RubasznyRumcajs 5 | 498
20 May 2016 #96
Well... Brits are, shamefully, amongst the less knowledgeable people about the EU within the EU- so the level of campaign has to level down to them.
Crow 154 | 8,996
20 May 2016 #97
Liberation. Withdrawal of Britain from EU would mean one step closer to full liberation of Poles.
européen
20 May 2016 #99
No job no stay. Good

"Under a principle enshrined by the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969, withdrawal from a treaty releases the parties from any future obligations to each otherbut does not affect any rights or obligations acquired under it before withdrawal. This is backed up by research conducted by the House of Commons Library". So if you count on seeing off a few EU citizens at the airport, you may be in for a dissapointment.

Liberation. Withdrawal of Britain from EU would mean one step closer to full liberation of Poles.

What are you talking about?

Brits are, shamefully, amongst the less knowledgeable people about the EU within the EU- so the level of campaign has to level down to them.

It is shameful, indeed. Most Brits don't even know when they joined EU. That's why they should leave.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
20 May 2016 #100
Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties 1969

Good luck with that...

connexionfrance.com/Vienna-Convention-1969-expats-rights-residence-Brexit-17867-view-article.html
mcm
20 May 2016 #101
It might also help some of you to actually read up on what the UK opted out from, since the beginning.
Crow 154 | 8,996
22 May 2016 #102
What are you talking about?

Poles would more easily organize Poland in accordance with their interests.
nothanks - | 631
26 May 2016 #103
Coming to a self-hating multicultural society near you



Mr Wiech 2 | 38
26 May 2016 #104
Hopfully majority of Poles will come back to Poland after Brexist, they'll be a seed of a great change in Poland.
Crow 154 | 8,996
26 May 2016 #105
yes, i pray that Poles come back to Poland, as well as in Serbia. We Serbians would like to be closer to Poles in these hard times.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
26 May 2016 #106
Hopfully majority of Poles will come back to Poland after Brexit

i pray that Poles come back to Poland

All of them? I take it then that Poland has at least 500,000 to 800,000 open jobs that pay decent wages, plus enough vacant and affordable flats to house 1 million+ additional people (or do they all move back in with their parents?), plus a sufficient number of kindergarten spots, plus big enough schools, plus enough money in the coffers to pay dole money and pensions, plus ...
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
26 May 2016 #107
" enough money in the coffers to pay dole money" Angela Merkel / France and the EU would pay repatriation costs if it came to it.

I am pretty sure that Hollande would happily close off the borders and start repatriation of peoples if Brexit occured, The French have never been happy with Britain's european membership, de Gaulle blocked it for years.
TheOther 6 | 3,667
26 May 2016 #108
Angela Merkel / France and the EU would pay repatriation costs if it came to it.

Why would they? It's a personal decision to leave your home country and live in another one.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
26 May 2016 #109
Why would they?

They maybe forced to leave after i, There again I am pretty sure that children born in the UK will be British Citizens thus their parents may not be extradited.

Lets Hope there is no Brexit, Europe is bringing many good things to Poland mainly hard cash which is damn useful where i live.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
26 May 2016 #110
Lets Hope there is no Brexit,

It's 60-40 Pro-Europe Dolno, and rock solid.

This is a total non-vote (with plenty of people who are pro-Europe being too "busy" to vote - or the vote would be 70-30)

Only loonies and nationalists (remember them?) would vote out. As opposed to PIS voters, the British are not generally so xenophobic, as you will well know, having spent most of your life there.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,920
26 May 2016 #111
60-40 Jolly Dobry. Sterling currency exchange rates will also improve, Jolly Dobry (Good) again.
pweeg3
26 May 2016 #112
Hopfully majority of Poles will come back to Poland after Brexist, they'll be a seed of a great change in Poland.

As the UK will join the EEA, Poles in the UK won;t be affected by Brexit.
mcm
26 May 2016 #113
The UK wont be joining the EEA as we have been members since January1994........Poland joined in December 2005
Do try to not post more misinformation.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
26 May 2016 #114
The UK wont be joining the EEA as we have been members since January1994

However, UK membership will automatically expire upon leaving the EU, as the UK isn't a member in her own right.
mcm
26 May 2016 #115
The average of the 6 most reliable polls actually tell a different story......53% remain against 47% leave.

No matter what the outcome the UK will pay the price, leaked documents between Junker and Merkel have confirmed this.

Poland should perhaps be more concerned about the influx of migrants to be allocated to them or the consequences of refusal. This is not going to end well for the whole of Europe either.
nothanks - | 631
26 May 2016 #116
"Poland should perhaps be more concerned about the influx of migrants to be allocated to them or the consequences of refusal"

Polska shouldn't be the loudest or first voice. If need be then accept them and let the Native Poles run them out of town.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
27 May 2016 #117
The average of the 6 most reliable polls actually tell a different story......53% remain against 47% leave.

Care to put money on it? 1000 zl to the charity of choice says I am closer to the result than your source of polls.
pweeg3
27 May 2016 #118
The UK wont be joining the EEA

The decision will be made by Parliament who are overwhelmingly (90%) pro EU. Its almost certain that that will be the only option the EU will offer for a trade deal and the Brexiteers have offered no other alternative.

So, yes. the UK will keep freedom of movement within the EEA
johnny reb 48 | 7,108
27 May 2016 #119
the UK will keep freedom of movement

25% of France wants to end the freedom of movement in the EU.
In fact they also are considering getting out of the E.U.

express.co.uk/news/world/654175/French-voters-demand-Frexit-EU-referendum-Germany-UK-Brexit
spiritus 69 | 645
31 May 2016 #120
the British are not generally so xenophobic, as you will well know,

You're joking right ?

The Brexit campaign is largely based around xenophobia i.e. leaving the EU would supposedly allow the UK to control it's own borders which would mean less migrants coming to the UK. Many people in the UK who are sympathetic to leaving the EU are dumb enough to believe that leaving the EU will result in the Poles, Romanians, Hungarians etc leaving the UK.

I find myself increasingly frustrated with the fact that we have been presented with a referendum but no politician can give the people a clear idea as to the consequences of either decision-they simply DO NOT KNOW. Instead we have the British public having to decide how to vote based on rhetoric coming from both sides of the argument.

There should be other factors to consider such as the economic impact and the broader argument of sovereignty but these factors would be difficult enough for the common man to understand even if they were clearly explained to us.

One topic that will grow and grow over the coming years is Turkey's application to join the EU and many people are favouring a Brexit as a result.


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