The BEST Guide to POLAND
Unanswered  |  Archives 
 
 
User: Guest

Home / UK, Ireland  % width posts: 59

Learning English but after reading comments in DM I feel it's no use


Lyzko
4 Oct 2012 #31
a.k. there are plenty of reasons for continuing! Unlike you, I don't believe that simply because I've completed umpteen language courses that I don't need to continue learning. My Polish will never be perfect, likewise your English certainly won't be, multiply that by the millions of miguisded others who mistakenly think "I've completed A-Level English so noone can touch me!" ad nauseum.

Believe me, from what I've seen, you've only scratched the tip of the iceberg. I quote classic Polish literature in the original. Haven't noticed any Orwell, Shakespeare, Emily Dickenson or others coming off your posts!!

Remember: You NEVER stop learning!!! Why should a foreigner Polish or other language learner NOT be satistfied with second best, while you Poles are typically satisfied with second, third or fourth best??
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
4 Oct 2012 #32
Give a me a reason to keep on learning English after I had achieved the communicative level

Imagine that moment when you become hard to distinguish. Really don't you desire that? :)
ilmc 4 | 136
4 Oct 2012 #33
if I'm not going to visit any English speaking country

im sure not everyone in great britain is hateful
also they are not the only english speaking country
and depending on your career direction, it could be useful that way
also... it is always good to learn multiple languages learn it so you can say you have
Kirchmayr - | 4
4 Oct 2012 #34
usually britain and the british are very tolerant. dont let a minority put you off. also remember that english is also a very popular 2nd language
Lyzko
4 Oct 2012 #35
Indeed. Where once German was the language that united East and West, today, slowly but steadily, it is becoming English. The only difference is the level of standard for German remains higher than for English and that's really a pity(:-

Maybe your generation can start to change all that, eh? That means though, your English has got to be BETTER than just okay!!!!
OP a.k.
4 Oct 2012 #36
Unlike you, I don't believe that simply because I've completed umpteen language courses that I don't need to continue learning.

Unlike me? Excuse me sir, I must protest :) You don't know what I believe in. Besides that I don't attend any courses because such method doesn't suit me.

you've only scratched the tip of the iceberg.

I know. I don't consider my level of English as excellent and total, just sufficient for my current needs.

Haven't noticed any Orwell, Shakespeare, Emily Dickenson or others coming off your posts!!

That's certainly not an ambition of mine.

Or maybe I can quote one phrase:

Do not go gentle into that good night
Rage, rage against the dying of the light


I swear i haven't cheated :)
Baacon - | 46
4 Oct 2012 #37
a.k.
It's not a waste of time at all. Keep up the good work because one day you'll eventually hear these words :)

ive me a reason,with all the hatefull ignorant trash spoken on here by Poles

Just here? lol. Its not like that at all. When in Poland I met met more thana handful of people wanting to learn/teach and speak with me. Although most were a little embarrassed, after a few drinks it was mostly easy breezy for all of us :)

isthatu2

We say "That kinda/kind of pisses me off". All over the US.
OP a.k.
4 Oct 2012 #38
It's not a waste of time at all. Keep up the good work because one day you'll eventually hear these words :)

Like when I'll be an old trembling babushka? :)

usually britain and the british are very tolerant.

I know they are tolerant, extremely. But everyone can get fed up after some while, especially if things go bad, that is when the economic crisis hits.

Imagine that moment when you become hard to distinguish. Really don't you desire that? :)

You say speak like the natives do? Nah, it's impossible :)
One needs to live like 40 years in a foreign country to draw near the native speaker level, still there will be something which give you out.

Richfilth
Thank you for the links, certainly I'll check it. The comment of yours is brilliant, thumb up :)

radio also and surprisingly on television in comedies etc.

I must say that recently I listen to a BBC radio broadcast and had to listen it thrice but understood everything. It's a good listening exercise. Still I can't watch movies because I have difficulties with focusing for such a long time. It's not a matter of vocabulary, just it needs much more exertion than listening in a native language.
OP a.k.
4 Oct 2012 #40
You have to just find a forum in Czech and post there a message every single day for 2 years :)
NorthMancPolak 4 | 648
4 Oct 2012 #41
To je pravda Sleèna a.k. but I spend too much time on swimming and weight training forums lol
Lyzko
5 Oct 2012 #42
Many thanks, a.k.!! That quote's a step in the right direction:-)

Keep it up there! (And no, I didn't think you cheated, I swear)LOL
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
5 Oct 2012 #43
One needs to live like 40 years in a foreign country to draw near the native speaker level, still there will be something which give you out.

Actually - I don't agree. I have two friends in Poznan who (if they don't tell people) are convincingly American despite being Polish. The only thing that you can catch them out on is specialist vocabulary - but then again, many native speakers wouldn't know specialist vocabulary too.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
5 Oct 2012 #44
I don't agree either my vile ex husband has been in London for 14 years and sounds like a native.
OP a.k.
5 Oct 2012 #45
I have two friends in Poznan who (if they don't tell people) are convincingly American despite being Polish.

Did they live for a considerable time abroad? It's hardly to imagine that someone could learn that at courses. For instanse how one can get the proper pronunciation if not hearing it on daily basis?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
5 Oct 2012 #46
No, neither of them have lived in an English speaking country - they've just both got one thing in common - they almost never watch Polish TV - they watch English language TV constantly. Both of them are huge film/TV geeks as well.

It is hard to imagine, yes - but we did a test with them and they made several native speakers believe them. Quite odd, but there you go.
Lyzko
6 Oct 2012 #47
Just curious, Delphadomine. First of all, who's "we" and precisely what sort of "test" did you all do? As with moles acting as spies during WWII, even the most skilled crackerjack German infiltrators who'd immersed themselves, for example, in languages such as Russian, Dutch, and of course, English, were able to "fool" the native speakers of those languages only so long before they were tripped up/found out, e.g. with specific local information which ONLY a native (perhaps not even a bilingual one born abroad!) could know, or, specifically certain tricky pronunciation of, say, city names. My favorite example is the Dutch town of "SCHEVENINGEN", spoken "SSKKKHEFFENINGUH", but typically mispronounced by the Germans as "SHEVENING'N" etc...

Sorry to sound skeptical again, but I guess I'm simply tough to fool LOL
p3undone 8 | 1,135
6 Oct 2012 #48
Lyzko,how is the Guh pronounced;like goo or ga?
Lyzko
6 Oct 2012 #49
More like "ga" (final schwa-sound, for which Dutch, like English, is well known)
:-))
Meathead 5 | 470
8 Oct 2012 #50
I agree with PGTX. Being Polish you might want to visit the States instead of England. The exchange rate may be a bit better and you won't catch any heat about being Polish. Only I would fly Warsaw to Chicago as there are many ExPat Poles there and you won't go a long time until you hear Polish spoken in the Street.

Apparently, you've forgotten to what extent the British (not only the English) are indebted to the Poles.

Surely you jest. People will work if you pay them enough. I've known a few expat English in the States and they don't sit on welfare, they're just as hard working as the natives.
Lyzko
8 Oct 2012 #51
Oh, really?? What are their names?LOL
Bagel
27 Mar 2019 #52
im not trying to be racist, I'am and those English are very ugly within my dads dic how about in euro eyes? is it just me or i'm confused as always ??
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
27 Mar 2019 #53
'English are very ugly within my dad's dick'? what on earth are you on about?
Bagel
27 Mar 2019 #54
i'm sorry :)
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
27 Mar 2019 #55
no need to be sorry, Bagz, just be more precise! what on earth do you mean?
Bagel
27 Mar 2019 #56
I'm not healthy and I find English very disgusting from top to bottom, I had very rare happy moments in here I think its their faces or something, time/fate/place... is that how europian people feel about English people?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
27 Mar 2019 #57
I find English very disgusting from top to bottom,

don't speak it then..:):) you seem to have a poor grasp of the language anyway. Speak Russian or German or something instead.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,671
27 Mar 2019 #58
maybe attend some English lessons so that you can communicate better?
Lyzko 24 | 6,785
27 Mar 2019 #59
BINGO, roz!!!


Home / UK, Ireland / Learning English but after reading comments in DM I feel it's no use
BoldItalic [quote]
 
To post as Guest, enter a temporary username or login and post as a member.