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Polish and Irish people are related?

Teffle 22 | 1,321
18 Jan 2011 #121
In this case yes, of course.
puella 4 | 172
18 Jan 2011 #122
Nevertheless I don't think that anyone phoned Kaczynski to ask him if he really stated that in the coffin burried in Wawel Castle he didn't recognized his brother, let alone the permission for publishing it ;)
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
14 Jul 2011 #123
Are still such an ardent defender of press freedom in light of recent developments in the UK, and do you still look askance at Polish the system, or have the scales finally fallen from your eyes and you have come to appreciate the wisdom of my words? (:
PolskiMoc 4 | 324
15 Jul 2011 #124
Overall I think it is more of the history I think Poles & Irish have had similar histories of Opression. But, I think Scots are more like us. as Scots gave English much more trouble much like the Poles gave Germans & Russians much more trouble. Also Scots made up alot of Intellectuals in England like Poles made up alot of Intellectuals in Germany & Russia.

Scotland had remarkable victories against England when they were well outnumbered like in the first & 2nd Scottish wars of Indenpedence.
Much like how Poles with a lower population beat Germans in the Battle of Plowce & Lubieszow with smaller troops & Russians in the Battle of Klushino with less troops.

Irish people are actually one of the furthest people from Poles by genes in Europe.
I think Iberians are the only people who are further away from Poles by genes.

The main haplogroup of Poles is R1a.
Ireland barely even has R1a. I believe Ireland is like 3 percent R1a. While Poland is like 56 percent R1a haplogroup.

The closest genetic relatives of Poles in the British Isles are actually the Scottish as the Scots have the most R1a haplogroup in Western Europe.

But, maybe the blood types explain a little. Scotland has the highest B Blood type in Western Europe & Ireland has the 2nd highest B Blood type in Western Europe.

B blood type is higher in Eastern Europeans. I believe Baltic people especially Latvians & Russians have the most B Blood type in Europe.
But, Poles also have a high level of B blood type at about 18 percent.
I believe Latvians are 24 percent B Blood & Russians 23 percent.

Scots I believe are 12 percent B Blood & Irish are 11 percent B Blood type.

Which is higher than most of Western Europe. Alot of Western Europe is between 4 & 12 percent B blood type ( With Scots highest at 12 percent.
But with averages like 5-8 percent usually

B Blood type has a stronger association with Central Asia. So, that might explain it. R haplogroup which includes R1a & R1b has rootsi n or near Central Asia.

So my guess is that Celts like Scots & Iriish perhaps have a little closer connection to Central Asia than other Western Europeans.

Which may explain why they are more like Poles.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
15 Jul 2011 #125
Poland and Ireland are two of the few countries in Europe that, despite never being under the dominion of imperial Rome, stayed almost completely Roman Catholic when the Reformation came. Other places that were never under imperial Roman sway such as Scandinavia, Scotland, and non-Rhenish Germany, were quick to throw off the yoke of ecclesiastical Rome.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
16 Jul 2011 #127
But, I think Scots are more like us

We are certainly not like you. For a start, we don't spend our time eating cheeseburgers and thinking up ridiculous racial theories to post online.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
16 Jul 2011 #128
I think Scots are more like us

Who do you mean by 'us'?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
16 Jul 2011 #129
Delph, I can see his point. Besides, many Scots spend their time eating cheeseburgers and think up ridiculous racial theories to post online :( Poles and Irish folk can be similar but the sheer numbers of Poles have put a dampener on that.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
16 Jul 2011 #130
Who do you mean by 'us'?

I think he means Polish people. Mr Mocz has a close affinty to Poland and Poles loosely based on his insane white supremacist delusions and the fact that his great grandmother was half Polish. I hear he's thinking of even coming here if he can get off his fat arse and tear himself away from neo-nazi websites.
ZIMMY 6 | 1,601
16 Jul 2011 #131
"There are few virtues that the Poles do not possess and there are few errors they have ever avoided." ........... Winston Churchill

"Poles are like the Irish, only more so".....................Winston Churchill
teflcat 5 | 1,032
16 Jul 2011 #132
"Could he not find in his heart the generosity to acknowledge that there is a small nation that stood alone not for one year or two, but for several hundred years against aggression; that endured spoliations, famines, massacres in endless succession; that was clubbed many times into insensibility, but that each time on returning [to] consciousness took up the fight anew; a small nation that could never be got to accept defeat and has never surrendered her soul?”

- Eamon De Valera, on Victory Day in Europe, May 8, 1945, responding in a radio speech to criticism by Winston Churchill of Ireland’s neutrality in World War II, a speech in which De Valera also thanked Churchill for not invading Ireland.
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
16 Jul 2011 #133
Poland: The heaven of the nobility; paradise of the Jews, purgatory of the common man, and hell of the peasant; the gold-mine of foreigners, and the source of feminine luxury. Rich in wool, it is yet without cloth, grows flax in overabundance, and yet imports linen from abroad, favours all foreign goods and belittles its domestic products, boasts of its costly purchases and despises everything that is cheap.

Italian saying
teflcat 5 | 1,032
16 Jul 2011 #134
These guys crack me up. I was born in a part of London where a lot of Irish people lived. My mother was Irish and our family life was heavily influenced by Irish culture. Having said that, I would never in a hundred years presume to talk about Ireland by using the pronoun We. I do not feel entitled to pontificate on Irish affairs and I would never look down my nose at non-Irish people living in and paying tax in Ireland.
6 Feb 2021 #135
Teffle, stop spreading lies. Media are not free anymore and doesn`t matter what what country we are talking about as they are all the same. Majority of media in Poland are in hands of foreign platforms like: Ringer Axel Springer, KKR or Discovery Inc and they will never miss an opportunity to attack the Catholic Church, who is having a crisis at the moment. This is mainly to the fact that communists during their occupations 1945 - 1990 penetrated the structures and did their best to destroy this institution by infiltrating it with their own people or for example by covering the pedophiles. Recently there was a loud movie "Tylko nie mow nikomu" about pedophilia within the CC Church and guess what, most if not all pedophiles in this movie were communists agents, kept there and protected by the communist secret police. I am not saying that all pedophiles are Russian agents, but 45 years of occupation demoralise everyone.
pawian 176 | 14,885
5 Apr 2021 #136
never miss an opportunity to attack the Catholic Church, who is having a crisis at the moment.

The Church isn`t able to solve its problems on its own - instead of solving and getting rid of various scum, they try to sweep dirty affairs under the carpet. If not for the media, we wouldn`t learn about many immoral acts by some evil clergy. They are experiencing a crisis but they have brought it on themselves.
Anna822 - | 4
6 Apr 2021 #137
...we both like potatoes and cabbage....:)

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