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Why do so many Polish guys in the UK have a crew cut or buzz cut?


sascha 1 | 826
24 Sep 2011 #61
;)
that is what i meant when i said the south of europe has better hair AND beards. :)

king

i watched the pics. what is ur point? did u look for partizan pics?

almost every culture has it symbols e.g. beards. i dont see anything special in this. for the chetniks they were some sort pf sign/symbol, like bald head for hare krishna, beard and dreads for orthodox jews, long beards in orthodox church, long hair for metal fans, etc......
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
24 Sep 2011 #62
southern:

Trust me you will not see radical right members with beards,moustaches and long hair.

southern:

Right loving individuals always tend to more minimalistic hair than their revolutionary counterparts

So which is it? :p
OP KingAthelstan 9 | 142
24 Sep 2011 #63
the partizan's were not Nationalists they were Yugoslav Communists, Serbian nationalists beards and long hair harks back to the Medieval kings of Serbia.

it is not uncommon for Serbian nationalists to have a full beard.

you said:

Trust me you will not see radical right members with beards,moustaches and long hair.

sascha 1 | 826
24 Sep 2011 #64
you said: Trust me you will not see radical right members with beards,moustaches and long hair.

no, that was a comment by southern :)

the historical facts about chetniks i know, but tnx. :)
OP KingAthelstan 9 | 142
24 Sep 2011 #65
not just historical, go to a nationalist rally in belgrade you will plenty of people with beards dressing like cetniks

that's your last warning. keep you thread on topic.
sascha 1 | 826
24 Sep 2011 #66
not just historical, go to a nationalist rally in belgrade you will plenty of people with beards dressing like cetniks

there are few of them that is correct, but more like to be an attraction and by sentiment. the kind of hairstyle is not necessarily a must for the political stand.

btw, there are more guys during those rallies with crew or buzz cut running around. as i said, haircut and polical views dont have to follow stereotypes. ;)
OP KingAthelstan 9 | 142
24 Sep 2011 #67
yes back to the topic please never mind Serbia, I was out today and saw a group of 6-7 Polish guys all had that typical short Polish hair cut, you could tell they were Polish from the way they walked awell.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
24 Sep 2011 #68
you could tell they were Polish from the way they walked awell

Like princes and yogins walk.
OP KingAthelstan 9 | 142
24 Sep 2011 #69
no, you could just tell. You very rarely see a pole with long or alternative hairstyles, they all look like they've jut come out the Marines
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,827
24 Sep 2011 #70
they all look like they've jut come out the Marines

do you like a naval man from Gdansk, King A.? You're very interested aren't you?
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
24 Sep 2011 #71
no, you cold jut tell.

King Athelstan, you sound like you are nasally congested. Blow your nose before posting.
sascha 1 | 826
24 Sep 2011 #72
no, you cold jut tell. You very rarely see a pole with long or alternative hairstyles, they all look like they've jut come out the Marines

that is a local and maybe european phenomen. during my schooldays(long long ago) the variety of hair style was much bigger than now due to the variety of style offerd by music and film culture as an inspiration.

now that we are mostly getting served a mash of sth, most importantly political correct and nice, the selection possible is limited. the polishg guys are simply following that, imo.
pawian 173 | 13,366
24 Sep 2011 #73
UK is not Poland, here we wear a bit longer hair. Look at me:

The main principle - my hair must be as long as my moustache.
OP KingAthelstan 9 | 142
24 Sep 2011 #74
It's not just the hair, but generally you don't see many Polish goths, Hippies, New age type people, screamos, Townies, gay men with purple hair or generally alternative styles. They seem to where sports wear or slightly outdated middle of the road cloths from the early 2000s late 90s. Culturally many Poles seem to be 30 years back in their attitude to homosexuality, hippies, Vegans, and so on.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,291
25 Sep 2011 #75
King Athelstan, you should be grateful that Poles in Britain avoid being garish fashion victims. Poles are making your country a better looking place, and their coiffures are not alien to your island either as they have a precendent amongst your history's Roundheads.
sascha 1 | 826
25 Sep 2011 #76
garish fashion victims

what 'fashion'??? ;) bomber jackets, martins etc.??? that would be the fit for the haircuts...

Poles are making your country a better looking place

slavic blood. ;)
pawian 173 | 13,366
25 Sep 2011 #77
=KingAthelstan]Culturally many Poles seem to be 30 years back in their attitude to homosexuality, hippies, Vegans, and so on.

Forgot about Martians?
beckski 12 | 1,617
25 Sep 2011 #78
the selection possible is limited

You've got unlimited selections today. You have the option of adding some tatts to your baldness if you prefer;)



southern 75 | 7,096
25 Sep 2011 #79
Short hair implies order,following rules,not being afraid to show your characteristics etc.It is the prefered look among all radical right organizations.Long hair implies revolution,disobedience etc and it is the preferred look among radical left and anarchists.In fact if you try to appear in short haircut in an anarchist neighbourhood it is likely you will get attacked and the same happens when neonazis meet long haired individuals.Haircut acts as a provocation because it shows fearlessness to show one's political attitudes in extreme way.

Chetnics are an exception because due to local Balcan tradition they regarded themselves as revolutionaries and carried beards despite heavy conservatism.Also they wanted to hide their facial characteristics due to the nature of their actions,they wanted to scare the enemies by long beards meaning we really do not care what will happen with you or we are not afraid to show we are chetnics and they wanted probably to show the connection to orthodoxy and local priests who also carry long beards.The bearded,long haired revolutionist who spreads terror in Balkans usually riding a horse appearing where nobody expects him hiding in the day and clearing his enemies with silent ways(knives,pieces of tan cans on throat etc) is quite common.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aris_Velouchiotis
An example of a famous and controversial Greek revolutionist who took lots of lives down with him.
bullfrog 6 | 603
25 Sep 2011 #80
if that were the key reason, you would see also other men coming from "poor" nations with the same haircut...Maybe it has more to do with thinking they look more macho like this, which of course is stupid
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
25 Sep 2011 #81
You still don't get it, do you.

As I said before, there are a lot of people in the techno party scene (which is VERY left-wing, even "anarchist") with very short/shaved hair; as many (if not more) as those with long hair/dreads. If a black or south Asian walks into a rock club, there will be comments like "what's a nigger/Paki doing liking metal", despite the fact that many people in those clubs have long hair, or are "alternative". Trust me on this - I've been involved in both scenes for decades. Many "outlaw" bikers also have long hair and/or beards - yet many have very right-wing views.

Things may be different in your part of the world, but I imagine that most people still have mullets over there anyway :p

It's just not as simple as "peace-loving, inclusive left-wing hippie = long hair" or "very short/shaved hair = right wing, racist and violent".

if that were the key reason, you would see also other men coming from "poor" nations with the same haircut...Maybe it has more to do with thinking they look more macho like this, which of course is stupid

Good point. That south Asian "big hair" look is weird :) The latter is also spot-on.
legend 3 | 664
25 Sep 2011 #82
I always get a buzz cut.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,827
25 Sep 2011 #83
It's just not as simple as "peace-loving, inclusive left-wing hippie = long hair" or "very short/shaved hair = right wing, racist and violent".

good points about hair sid, plenty of short haired hippies and long haired racists,in Uk anyway.
As a parent what has struck me the most is how middle class parentes encourage their boys to have long hair,preferably in a floppy surfer 'do', wheras working class and council house boys have a number 2. It is remarkable, as though the posh parents are seeking another 'badge' to divide their boys from the chavs.

Personally I prefer the number 2 for my boy, less washing and fewer lice..;)
southern 75 | 7,096
25 Sep 2011 #84
there are a lot of people in the techno party scene (which is VERY left-wing, even "anarchist") with very short/shaved hair;

Whatever they may be they are not recognized as anarchists or radical left communists.There is no possibility a radical left communist carries a speech having a neonazi hairstyle.The same no neonazi will ever appear in public having a long hair.I can post pics of neonazi and radical left and anarchist youth gatherings and you will notice the striking contrasts.
Natasa 1 | 580
25 Sep 2011 #85
Southern:Chetnics are an exception because due to local Balcan tradition they regarded themselves as revolutionaries and carried beards despite heavy conservatism.

Correct.

I dislike their image completely. Too similar to Orthodox Church fashion, too priesty :)

Having communist past with many movies on the topic seen, I was terrified with their appearance. Draža Mihailović and his chetniks had a Hollywood movie made at the beginning of war when West still didn't choose communists as their allies and betrayed the Chetniks.

The fighting guerillas aka Chetniks, by Hollywood ;)

imdb.com/title/tt0035729

'movie chetniks the fighting guerrillas made in 1943, story deals with Serbian freedom fighters who stood up to Hitler and cost him World War Two'

Now, the hair and hair on men:

I like beards on men, but those very short ones, those that can scratch. So baldness, natural of course with some beard, symbolizes manhood for me. Testosterone kings.

Samson and the might in the hair didn't convince me.

My name is not Delilah :))

Edit: Buzz cut looks manly. I forgot that. It mimics the manhood mentioned in the post above only baldness can emit. And Polish men are manly men ;)
Sidliste_Chodov 1 | 441
25 Sep 2011 #86
good points about hair sid, plenty of short haired hippies and long haired racists,in Uk anyway.

Thank you. The Greco-Turk clearly has no idea.

As a parent what has struck me the most is how middle class parentes encourage their boys to have long hair,preferably in a floppy surfer 'do'

That shopping centre in Kingston is always full of these floppy-haired "emo" types. I doubt that many of them live on the Cambridge Gardens estate ;)

wheras working class and council house boys have a number 2.

(looks in mirror) Oh dear... :D

It is remarkable, as though the posh parents are seeking another 'badge' to divide their boys from the chavs.

I think there is definitely some truth in this.

Personally I prefer the number 2 for my boy, less washing and fewer lice..;)

hehe. Though I must add that my hair was always clean even when it was 18" long lol :)
southern 75 | 7,096
25 Sep 2011 #87
I like beards on men, but those very short ones, those that can scratch.

You don't seem to be a fan of ZZ top.

Anyway if you met this guy you had a possibility to survive.

But if you met this guy you should start preparing your grave.
Natasa 1 | 580
25 Sep 2011 #88
You don't seem to be a fan of ZZ top.

And the fans of ZZ top. One of my exss was a pervert- he liked them?! ;)

Velouchiotis would have married me! ;)

The others would have had problems passing by.
southern 75 | 7,096
25 Sep 2011 #89
I remember about 10 years ago it was fashionable among youth here the so called Roman haircut.(from ancient Rome).My brother burst out laughing when he visited our village and saw an old fart about 85 years old having a Roman haircut.The reason was the village hairdresser was the only gay there and being constantly frowned upon he took revenge in every way possible.
Teffle 22 | 1,321
25 Sep 2011 #90
What's all this crew cut anyway? This doesn't mean an all over number 1 or 2 does it? (I assume that's what we're talking about with the Polish hair)

To me, a crew cut anyway is like a 50s American GI or sailor - short but with a kind of flat quiff on top

I don't use the term buzz cut but it sounds more like what we're talking about.

To me, crew cut is something quite different.


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