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Estimated number of Poles in Ireland thought to exceed 200,000 OR over 5% of population.


RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
3 Jul 2013 #181
21% of them are on jobseekers. Not to mention those on back to work allowance,back to education,single parent and rent allowance.Why wouldnt they love this kip?

Treasure island - we may be broke but you will ensure any waif and stray is looked after.
ufo973 10 | 89
3 Jul 2013 #182
So what is the future of Poland?
Why they don't try to fix the mess in their own country?

You will hardly find any Pole complaining about the situation in their country, is it because they are used to slavery?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
3 Jul 2013 #183
So what is the future of Poland?

The future is steady growth - faster than Western Europe as Poland continues to catch up. Works for me.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
3 Jul 2013 #184
Its not good for Ireland, paws. 21% of Poles here live off the state. Factor in the other allowances not included in the unemployment figures and it paints a pretty picture indeed. But in fairness to the Poles, their unemployment rate is not as low as some other ethnic groups that planted themselves here. Not to mention our travelling brethren.

This country is f*cking nuts. There was a lad on the radio at the weekend calling for us to issue an extra 80,000 work visas a year. We already have one of the largest foreign born populations in Europe, job displacement is accelerating, debt per capita is scarily high, our youth are heading to Oz and Canada - and the powers to be response "moar immigrants".

I try not to even care anymore. Il only end up grey. The Poles may as well fleece the kip. Its not like we are ever going to pay our debts anyways.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
3 Jul 2013 #185
Why they don't try to fix the mess in their own country?

Who are you talking about ?

21% of Poles here live off the state.

Source ?
smurf 39 | 1,981
3 Jul 2013 #186
The Poles may as well fleece the kip. Its not like we are ever going to pay our debts anyways.

Welcome back, you're back to your old ways already, eh?

But in fairness to the Poles, their unemployment rate is not as low as some other ethnic groups that planted themselves here. Not to mention our travelling brethren

You mean their unemployment rate is low?

Which nationality group have the highest unemployment rate in Ireland?
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
3 Jul 2013 #187
No, its not low. Its 50% above average - 21% of Poles are on the dole. Travellers have the highest rate of unemployment followed by Nigerians at 39% , then Russians at 28%, Latvians at 25%, Lithuanians at 24, then Poles.

The average is 14%.

Source: cso.ie
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
4 Jul 2013 #188
What is the general Irish attitude towards mirgant Poles? I know it varies from person to person, but is there some general vibe that tends to prevail? Do the Irish see in Poles kindred spirits who were also occupied by alien forces for quite some time and share the Catholic faith? Or are they seen as just anotehr bunch of intruders taking jobs from the Irish and abusing the dole? Or yet some other option?

Are Belfast Irish more anti-Polish than the sons of Erin?
milky 13 | 1,657
4 Jul 2013 #189
All depends in the type of person. I personally think it's great and the more the better, we're a right ugly shower;we need to mix the freckles out of the gene pool. Apparently Poles are still heading to bankrupt Ireland from booming Poland. What people back home are saying to me is that if all is so great in booming Poland why are they all over here and still coming.

The average Irish person knows sfa about Poland and Polish people. They know the Pope was Polish, Germany invaded it, and the women are beauts. Very few people I know in Ireland actually know a Polish person, even though they are 5% of the population.

Belfast ? not sure. The prods only seem to hate Irish Catholics, which prove the point that its has nothing to do with religion, at root.
RevokeNice 15 | 1,859
5 Jul 2013 #190
Milky hasnt a breeze . Stick to failing at becoming a property mogul, buddy.
vladik 1 | 4
22 Jan 2014 #191
Possible , could be true !
German George
4 Dec 2015 #192
Did any Irish immigrate to Poland as the Prime Minister proposed. I wish you guys would set up a rural enclave near where I live in northern Alabama
terri 1 | 1,665
5 Dec 2015 #193
I just woner (and perhaps someone can put my mind at rest) how they ACTUALLY calculate the number of people of any nationality in a country?

Problems begin when someone of 'foreign extraction' e.g. Polish-born came to Ireland or even England and became naturalised. Is that person counted as Irish, British or Polish?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
5 Dec 2015 #194
how they ACTUALLY calculate

It's like estimating the size of marches and demos: you just count the legs and divide by two!
terri 1 | 1,665
5 Dec 2015 #195
>>>>>It's like estimating the size of marches and demos: you just count the legs and divide by two!
Oh, I see that it's that easy...I wonder who does that?.
Crow 150 | 9,557
5 Dec 2015 #196
Poland rapidly losing its population.
Jardinero 1 | 405
8 Dec 2015 #197
Considering that the Earth is overpopulated as it is - maybe it's not such a bad thing?
Wulkan - | 3,243
8 Dec 2015 #198
But Poland can afford food for their citizens unlike most African countries so it is a bad thing.
Atch 16 | 3,367
8 Dec 2015 #199
I just woner (and perhaps someone can put my mind at rest) how they ACTUALLY calculate the number of people of any nationality in a country?

Through census returns. In Ireland they take a census every four years. It could be done through electoral rolls as well as all EU citizens can vote in local elections and your nationality is recorded but it's less reliable than the census as not everyone bothers to go on the electoral roll whilst most people complete the census forms. According to the 2011 Census, Polish nationals increased by 93.7 per cent since 2006 from 63,276 to 122,585 in 2011 making them the largest group ahead of UK nationals with 112,259.

naturalised. Is that person counted as Irish, British or Polish?

That's a very interesting question. You can declare two nationalities and I imagine that most people would like to be recorded as both Polish and Irish. Also your place of birth is recorded on the census return so with those two pieces of information it's possible for the Central Statistics Office to get a clear picture of the number of non-native Irish citizens there are. Also the Irish Immigration Service keeps records of all citizenships granted so it's an easy matter to determine how many Irish citizens were born in Poland. There's so few that it would hardly make much impact on the overall stats.
terri 1 | 1,665
8 Dec 2015 #200
You have put my mind at rest, I had temporarily forgotten about the Census.


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