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My dream about UK. Please help.


peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
15 Apr 2012 #61
No, really, with no jokes. If any of you Polish and not nightmare British can offer me a room for June it would be nice.

I don't know if you are joking or what? Have you ever been to UK? If no, go for a trip. Don't relocate for good. Taste it.

I can't live there and no probable earnings can change it. I can earn 700 euro in Poland easily so there is no sense emigrate for 1200.

and be a doormat and live in a house on the chicken foot.

Is a month a time long enough to find a flat and job in London?

You can find a room easily in a week but what about the job. One month or two may be not enough. All my friends say, there is no job out there.

The last question is the most important for me. How much money should I take for 4-6 weeks to London?

If you are going to rent a room they ask for deposit. Not many landlords want to let you room for short term. They always ask if you have job etc.

So it is about 4 x 100 + 400 = 800 only for accommodation.
OP noreenb 7 | 557
15 Apr 2012 #62
peter_olsztyn: Deposit for a month. Good to know.
The title is: my dream about UK. I haven't made the decision about going there yet. If it will happen, I will have to stay in here without job for much longer.

I am unfortunately a type of person who change her mind easily. It's a bad side of my character. Like I said in one Polish threads I can't find a job in my city for a longer time and I become more and more desperated because I can't be unemployed for years. The accicent I mentioned about excluded me from professional and real life for almost 3 years. Now, when I am finally completely healthy, I look for new opportunities. I know nothing about life in London except from some of my friends stories, PF and some other sides.

I'm not joking, mate. What's more, maybe I'm not too responsible, I don't know.
This is my dream. Nothing more. But one thing I know for sure, if I won't go there what is a bit more pobably that going there, I will always regret it.

I've been in UK once over 12 years ago for 3 days. I know almost nothing about that place.
However I want you to know that I find allmost all the answers very useful and wise.
I appreciate all answers. Who knows, maybe after a month of reading it, as a very hesitant person, I decide for yes?
I will try not to forget about the deposit, hehe, however, the question is, will I really go there?
i will have to find the answer during next two or three weeks.
I will inform you, when I will make up my mind.
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
15 Apr 2012 #63
Deposit for a month. Good to know.

yup. They count on it. They need money now, like desert needs the rain.
In some areas where the devil says goodnight there is the only source of income.
You are fluent so try to negotiate deposit in instalments.
natasia 3 | 368
15 Apr 2012 #64
fluent

?

I am unfortunately a type of person who change her mind easily. It's a bad side of my character

I'm sorry ... but I guess you really don't understand, at all. I am coming from the position of a mother with a young daughter, and I took your first post seriously, but I'm afraid to say that reading what you go on to say, there are things that put me off.

I will try to give you more clear advice:

- If you want someone to have you to live in their house and look after their children, and for you to be a part of the family, and for you to improve your language, then you need to be thinking about the deal in terms as much about what you bring, as what you take. What I meant about the 'men' comments was that if I thought you were coming over as an available female, coming to live in my house with me and my husband, I would not like the idea of it. That is not me being insecure: that is a normal, and fairly sensible, female reaction. So all I meant was, that by putting yourself out there, you are putting off us potential female employers.

- By 'nightmare' I was obviously being too subtle. I didn't mean that the family would be a nightmare. I meant that a situation where the wife was annoyed and you were flirting with the husband would be a nightmare.

- Your changeability is also something not really great in terms of someone offering you a job/home.

In conclusion, the things you are saying here could be putting people off helping you. OK, so you might want Southern to show you the sights of London, but he isn't going to put you up (well, not for more than a night or so ; ) and pay you and give you what you said you wanted. To get offers from that 'nice' family you want, you might have to think a bit more about how you present yourself.

To be honest, it sounds to me like you just want a base from which to explore London, and life. Which is totally understandable. But then don't try to live with a family. Because you won't like it.

To get a room you will need as someone said, probably min. £400 pcm, and £400-800 deposit. Your best bet would be to get to know some Poles already in London, and they will for sure find you a room. You will then need to earn min. £1,000 a month or so to live, including paying your rent. You should bring min. £2,000 with you from Poland, I think, which will give you a month to find a job.
OP noreenb 7 | 557
15 Apr 2012 #65
Natasia: I am in a very diffucult moment in my life when I need a job asap. I don't care for any men,do you have a pinch of a sense of humour lady? Try to treat my words with a distance.

Should I be careful of every word I say about anything what can have a meaning in the situation?
I am not the type of women who looks for opportunities how to steal somebody's husband. If you thought so, I feel so sorry now. Tears in my eyes, really.

I am just looking for new opportunities, because a month more and I am out of my money earned with hard work on tuitions.
Be Polish and try to apply for a job in UK!
Good, waiting for others critical words.
If anybody cares for it, feel free to write them.
Chleb 1 | 25
15 Apr 2012 #66
Be careful where you shop in London. I had to pay £5 for a little tub of ice-cream. Rip-off!
OP noreenb 7 | 557
15 Apr 2012 #67
Well, in my city I pay 2.50 zlotych for it.
:)
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
15 Apr 2012 #68
Be careful where you shop in London. I had to pay £5 for a little tub of ice-cream. Rip-off!

well that was a bit silly.....
Vincent 9 | 892
15 Apr 2012 #69
Good, waiting for others critical words.
If anybody cares for it, feel free to write them.

Not words of criticism but hopefully words of advice. It would probably be best, not to go to a foreign country without a job.Try to find one before you go there, by all means possible, Internet, and friends etc.

Your best bet to get started would be an Au-pair or house keeper as you will probably get free accommodation with the job. London is a very expensive place to live, and the price of renting a room might start to get higher as the 2012 Olympics is just a few months away. If you have some Polish friends in the UK then it may be a better option to try and stay with them.

With many local people looking for work, you may find there are only a few low paid jobs available. £6.50 an hour might look good from afar, but after you pay for your rent, travel expenses and food there is not a lot left for saving.

Hopefully what I said might be a little help to you, and you can still have your "dream", it might just mean putting it on hold for a little while longer
OP noreenb 7 | 557
15 Apr 2012 #70
rozumiemnic
I thought it was cute.
Do I flirt already? - Noreen, don't flirt, you won't get a job, British ladies will not hire you
Hope not, night, bad time. Looking forward new replies tomorrow.
Vincent, realistic advices are more than welcome, thank you so much.
Hipis - | 227
16 Apr 2012 #71
Noreen, are there not any recruitment agencies in your city hiring Polish workers for the UK job market? There used to be several in Wroclaw, Kraków and Warszawa a few years ago. I know the job situation over here isn't good at the moment, around 3 million unemployed, but as Vincent says, coming over here without anywhere to stay, not having a lot of money or knowing anyone is probably not a very good thing to do at the moment.
Ironside 53 | 12,366
16 Apr 2012 #72
My dream about UK.

Wake up!
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natasia 3 | 368
16 Apr 2012 #73
Wake up!

Yep.

You're already too sensitive about this, Noreen. And I have a great sense of humour, but was trying to give you the practical advice you need. So:

Either
Stay with friends while you find your feet and a job
Or
Get a job to go to.

You are currently throwing out your hopes and dreams like a bit of a damsel in distress, and hoping someone will come to your aid. Somebody might - I hope they do - it is the kind of site where someone might take you under their wing.
OP noreenb 7 | 557
16 Apr 2012 #74
"Damsell in distress." How useful it is for me future Proficiency exam.
However no dictionary says what is damsel. Just silly joke.
Surprise for me. I mentioned I registered on a page for Au-pairs, I got two offers of work today, one of them is from London.

Now I will have to consider if the dream will become a reality.
Wow, the letters look good.
I am pretty shocked.
Am I too sensitive? No, I m not, I had I hard time. Actually I am a very strong person with a tendency to being sensitive when people hurt her.

Woo, I am more than shocked. But I feel happy I started the thread.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 646
16 Apr 2012 #75
"Damsell in distress." How useful it is for me future Proficiency exam.
However no dictionary says what is damsel. Just silly joke.

It's an old-fashioned word which no-one uses in English, except when they use the phrase "damsel in distress" - a bit like in Polish, where no-one really uses the word "niewiasta" except at church, lol.

It means "panienka w niebezpieczeństwie" (czyli "kobieta potrzebująca pomocy") in Polish, and it's a mild insult, as it implies that the woman is weak and helpless, and needs a man to rescue her.

Surprise for me. I mentioned I registered on a page for Au-pairs, I got two offers of work today, one of them is from London.
Now I will have to consider if the dream will become a reality.

Good news. :)

But I feel happy I started the thread.

As you should be. Ignore the people who criticise; the internet is full of people who complain/criticise, but it's usually because they have no ambition themselves.

However...

Either
Stay with friends while you find your feet and a job
Or
Get a job to go to.

... this is still good advice, because one has to be practical ;)
Chleb 1 | 25
16 Apr 2012 #76
I have a great sense of humour

A noble gas joined a football team. Unfortunately, he had no chemistry with the other players.
If that doesn't make you laugh, you have no sense of humour.

well that was a bit silly.....

One does not simply refuse ice cream.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
16 Apr 2012 #77
I got two offers of work today, one of them is from London.

great news noreen! are you going to take it? what have they offered you and which area is it?
OP noreenb 7 | 557
16 Apr 2012 #78
One is from Greater London, Se1.
They can arrange part time English study for me, I will be treated as a part of their family, wow, both ladies don't say anything about salaries.

'You will have your own private and large bedroom with en suite bathroom Your bedroom has TV, DVD, and stereo and internet access." - from second of the emails. Doesn't it sound wonderful? The second one is also from London but the women doesn't say from which area.

Am I going to take it? Honestly?
I don't know yet. I need 5 days-a week to think it over.
Gosh, starting the thread I didn't realise it will go so far. Thanks for all answers.
Lol, third family is interested.
It's just because of my nice photos.
Gosh, starting the thread I just wanted and needen some info, I am not going to move there now, I am not packed yet.
:) :)
Thank you to all!!!
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,861
16 Apr 2012 #79
Doesn't it sound wonderful?

yes it does, it is a great way to start in London, you don't have to worry about finding a deposit etc......
keep us posted!
NorthMancPolak 4 | 646
17 Apr 2012 #80
Wow, that was quick! Hope it's what you're looking for :) The right side of the river as well, bonus ;)
natasia 3 | 368
17 Apr 2012 #81
"Damsell in distress." How useful it is for me future Proficiency exam.
However no dictionary says what is damsel. Just silly joke.

The Oxford PWN English-Polish Polish-English Dictionary has it, so don't be so certain unless you are ... it translates as 'dama w opalach'.

I have not anywhere tried to be mean or to criticise. I simply thought that you needed to be realistic about how you approach this. Great that you have some job offers. When you get there, hope it goes well.

I would still say, however, that if you live in someone's house, think a little bit about how you interact with the family, because it could be very uncomfortable/unpleasant for you if you don't get on, or, if as is more likely, you make waves that you aren't aware of making. Nobody will be quicker out of the door than someone who upsets a family's equilibrium. I am not in any way saying that you will, but you asked for advice, and whilst you have had lots of jolly comments from guys on here, I am telling you what I think it would be useful for you to know. Advice is not always what you want to hear, but hopefully it might help you. And what I said about being 'sensitive' is just that I have had experience from both sides - living with a family, and having people live with us - and I know that if you want to have a happy time there, and stay for as long as you want, then you will need to be a bit careful about what you share, and how you are. That is all. Don't be offended by that. It is not personal. I don't know you at all. I am just trying to help, as well.
NorthMancPolak 4 | 646
17 Apr 2012 #82
Be careful where you shop in London. I had to pay £5 for a little tub of ice-cream. Rip-off!

It's only a few days since I bought a tub of ice cream in London, and it only cost £1.99. You probably go in pubs where it's £7.00 a pint as well. They really saw you coming didn't they? I bet you bought a "Camden Town" T-shirt as well :p
peter_olsztyn 6 | 1,098
20 Apr 2012 #84
realistic advices are more than welcome

let's integrate with the local community ;)
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NorthMancPolak 4 | 646
24 Apr 2012 #85
I think that some of you have scared her away, lol ;)
OP noreenb 7 | 557
24 Apr 2012 #86
NorthMancPolak - Heyyyyy again!
Scared away, you say, well, maybe.
Well. To tell the truth: three things happened in last week -really. It sounds incredible even for me. Now I have serious reasons for staying in Poland.

My ex boyfriend and I probably will be together again.
Second: I got two invitations for interviews in Bydgoszcz, so finally something changed with my career. I have opportunities to work here.
Third: my mother is not in the best shape, so I have to so far look after her.
My dream about UK is a good title. Sometimes plans change.
But thank you very much for your information. I hope somebody will find it useful for himself/herself.
If anybody is interested in my writings, I invite on my page. There will be wider explanation soon about my UK/aupair dream.


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