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Arien
2 Apr 2008 #331
There are both people who realise you have to make life for yourself and people who think that a job should just be handed to them on a plate.

True, but most just won't get the opportunity.

Reality: Employer needs workers immedeately. - Employer calls the agency. - The agency calls Polish workers and instructs them. - Polish workers come.

While most British, Dutch, German or French blokes wonder why the agencies always tell them there's no work? Nothing gets handed to you on a silver platter. Sure, a few spoiled people will think this way, but the truth is that most local workers are getting pushed off the markets by these half-foreign agencies.

I gathered that ;)

Sorry, it's just that I've heard so much negative talk about a lot of honest and hard wroking craftsmen (And women!) already.

I'm doing a bit better now..

I am aware there are unemployed British folk who would take any job to get themselves started on the career ladder. It's not them I'm talking about at all.

For example, my company advertise some of these low paid jobs and truly, it's not British people who are coming for the interviews...(others may advertise these posts and have many British people for interviews but that is not my experience).

That's admirable, most companies don't advertise, they just call their agencies (Companies often have contracts with such agencies, which almost automatically excludes local workers from getting hired.) But alright, before I give you a reply I'd like to ask you a question first: Where and how does your company advertise?
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099
2 Apr 2008 #332
orry, it's just that I've heard so much negative talk about a lot of honest and hard wroking craftsmen (And women!) already.

You're right to say your bit, the point is, it's not about the hardworking folk, it's about the slackers :)

I'm doing a bit better now..

Good :)

That's admirable, most companies don't advertise, they just call their agencies (Companies often have contracts with such agencies, which almost automatically excludes local workers from getting hired.) But alright, before I give you a reply I'd like to ask you a question first: Where and how does your company advertise?

No, don't deal in agencies. Never, ever. My company advertises in local papers, online (sometimes) and in the job centre (although we very rarely get anything from them). The post offered will run in all the local papers each week until the post is filled.
Arien
2 Apr 2008 #333
(although we very rarely get anything from them).

Which supports my story about the job centre. I mean, it happens very often you shake hands with a young lady behind the desk, you ask if there are any jobs in a specific type of branch and 9 out of 10 times you hear something like this;

''Let's see.. *click* *click-click* *click* *click* *click* Hmmm.. Construction work you said? *click* *click-click* *click* *click* *click* Yeah.. Uhm.. *click* *click-click* *click* *click* *click*

I have a job for you in Belgium. No? Yes, that's a bit far away isn't it? Alright.. *click* *click-click* *click* *click* *click* *click* *click-click* *click* *click* *click* Ah.. Well, I have something very different for you but it's a job..

Would you like to this job?''

Me: Sure!

Young lady behind the desk: Okay, contact the agency and let me know when they've hired you alright?

Me: Uhm.. Miss.. I just came from the very same agency, are you sure?

Young lady behind the desk: Yes, I'm sure..

Me: *sigh* Alright..

Me: Going back to the agency (From which I just came from but you'll just have to prove that they have nothing for you don't you?)

So repeat this ritual a hundred times and you'll understand where I'm coming from..

But, it's commendable your company puts adverts in the local papers, some people might read the papers and actually get a fair chance!

We're cool, and this is for your company!
isthatu 3 | 1,164
2 Apr 2008 #334
if it came across that I dislike all Brits, that was not my intention. :)

Yes,my apologies for being a little OTT back there Polska,...I know,I know,its bad enough when people who have never set foot in Britain say similar things....I just like a little balance.

(again,sorry babes.)
I have that generic "mate who works in" a job center...even he told me there are a good percentage of agencies in this area who are soley employing non British workers,bloomin anoying. There are also many farms a few miles from here that NEVER advertise,be that paper or job center,they have there dodgy mustacheod Polish gangmaster who fixes everything for them.

My own experiance a couple of years back when looking for a new job ,troop round the agencies,passport in hand and look of shock when they se it is maroon not blue,needles to say nothing comes of signing with them,maybe Im "over qualified" for those jobs?Who knows,but it still doesnt explain why those who have worked in those manual type jobs since leaving school now find themselves struggling to find even the odd weeks placement....as Ive mentioned before,in the late 90s I worked breifly in warehousing while studying,basic was £9.60 an hour,now those same jobs are minimum wage,that must be causing resentment/financial problems for people mustnt it?
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099
2 Apr 2008 #335
So repeat this ritual a hundred times and you'll understand where I'm coming from..

It's disheartening. I can't pretend I've been in your position. All I can do is wish you good luck for the future. You described your visits to the JC well, maybe you should become a narrator :)

But, it's commendable your company puts adverts in the local papers, some people might read the papers and actually get a fair chance!

We find it's the only way that really works. I think we're leaning more towards trying the Internet now. :)

We're cool, and this is for your company!

I hope so :) An award for my company...that's a first :)

Yes,my apologies for being a little OTT back there Polska,...I know,I know,its bad enough when people who have never set foot in Britain say similar things....I just like a little balance.
(again,sorry babes.)

OK, it's in the past :)
isthatu 3 | 1,164
2 Apr 2008 #336
ooh,Polska,see above edit :)
PolskaDoll 28 | 2,099
2 Apr 2008 #337
You naughty editor you! :)

I truly think one of the problems with this country is that employers/agencies are allowed to do what you write about above. It really throws the equal opportunities thing right out the window and obviously, in cases like you describe, it's local workers who come of worst (Brits).

In fact, I'm not sure they really are "allowed" to do it, but they are getting away with it through some loophole or another!
isthatu 3 | 1,164
2 Apr 2008 #338
Its the old nod n a wink though isnt it. Its like the jobs local authorities advertise.Everyone KNOWS those jobs have already been given to someone already "in the club" but the adverts are still placed in the Job center/newspapers just to follow the rules.....
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
3 Apr 2008 #339
Hmmm, yep it would seem that there is a little bit of bi-passing going on

google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Polish+Recruitment+Agencies+in+the+UK
Arien
3 Apr 2008 #340
a little bit of bi-passing going on

I just love your sarcasm..

But you're right, and it's been going on for a few years now.. In fact, I think it just reached the bloody limit?

And isthatu, I recognize every example in your last few postings, it's all very sad but true..
isthatu 3 | 1,164
3 Apr 2008 #341
Good luck in your job hunting mate :)
Arien
3 Apr 2008 #342
Thanks a lot mate! Already found one! (Well, I shouldn't lie really, but I'm very optimistic about this employer, and I have an intervieuw on Monday.) I'm just not going to shut up about this, because I know there are plenty other hard working, and honest guys out there who really need and want a job too!

Another dirty little detail; I never got any social benefits, wellfare or whatever they call it these days..

All for justice, and justice for all?

(lol)
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
4 Apr 2008 #343
cap all immigration into britian

Yes, those from NONE EU countries is what is being discussed...there's been a bit of a debate about the amount of people from Aus and NZ...so when post you little turd, get your facts right, I watch the Parliament channel too !!
Wroclaw Boy
5 Apr 2008 #344
i will vote for that too....any more want to join the petition to get this racist filth off permanantly......I am English too by the way...

Noimmigration is Scottish not English.

This guy sure is one mean little bastar#d, never misses the opportunity to throw a low punch.
Seanus 15 | 19,674
5 Apr 2008 #345
Cap all immigration into Britain, hehehe. Who would lay on such great curries after some bevvies? Who would give u a slap up foo yung or chow mein? Where would u get the variety of skilled labour that Britain prides itself on? Come on man, think
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #346
immigrant families living in council houses

over 1 million immigrant families are living in housing paid by the british taxpayer.

dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=558273&in_page_id=1770
szarlotka 8 | 2,208
9 Apr 2008 #347
Get back to your studies. Over 10 Scottish students pay less than theri English counterparts.
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #348
how many poles pay for houses with british families living in them ?
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
9 Apr 2008 #349
over 1 million immigrant families are living in housing paid by the british taxpayer.

Probably very few are Polish you little turd, a vast majority of Poles rent privately..
MrBubbles 10 | 613
9 Apr 2008 #350
It's not one house per migrant - we might just be talking about 100,000 houses. In fact, according to the article, one in nine houses is occupied by foreigners. It might as well be said that over 80 percent of housing is occupied by British nationals. Anyway, migrants pay their taxes too so they are entitled to accomodation.

The only thing this story tells us is that the commission believes the number of migrants in accomodation could potentially be a flashpoint for idiots who read the mail. As usual though, the Mail focusses on the sensational aspect.
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #351
Probably very few are Polish you little turd, a vast majority of Poles rent privately..

then why waiting list times for british people waiting for council houses increased three fold in the past two years. Maybe it has something to do witht he millions of poles turning up at britians shores.

I have a friend who works for a glasgow housing association and she was telling me how she has to deal with hundreds of poles coming into her office demanding council houses that rightfully belong to the british.

COUNCIL HOUSES FOR BRITISH PEOPLE, NOT FOR IMMIGRANT POLES
MrBubbles 10 | 613
9 Apr 2008 #352
why waiting list times for british people waiting for council houses increased three fold in the past two years

If they hav done it could be due to (1) too many lazy British benefit cases sponging off the taxpayer (2) council house owners selling off their properties now the properties values have gone up.

You ought to take advantage of this while you can!
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #353
unemployment has been decreasing the past years, and housing prices are currently falling
MrBubbles 10 | 613
9 Apr 2008 #354
unemployment has been decreasing the past years

but but but I'm sure you said that all the immigrants were taking English people's jobs?

housing prices are currently falling

Apart from this blip, they are probably still the highest they've been for many decades. It said so in the Daily Mail
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #355
but but but I'm sure you said that all the immigrants were taking English people's jobs?

the chance of school leavers getting apprenticeships and learning trades is seriouslyharmed by these horrible slavic speaking, immigrant scumbags.

and housing prices have fallen by over 3% which is a very substantial.
szarlotka 8 | 2,208
9 Apr 2008 #356
and housing prices have fallen by over 3% which is a very substantial.

Strewth, any more and there might be a dnager that young people may be able to get on the housing ladder. The old bricks and mortar has been hugely overpriced for years.
MrBubbles 10 | 613
9 Apr 2008 #357
the chance of school leavers getting apprenticeships and learning trades is seriouslyharmed

You mean there are fewer aprentices these days? I thought everyone did management or leisure and tourism these days. Maybe it's just the lack of demand? Maybe it's down to the corporate culture that puts the squeeze on sole traders these days?

Anyway, I see you don't deny that house prices are very high and that immigrants are not cheating the English out of their jobs. On that at least we agree.
OP noimmigration
9 Apr 2008 #358
what corprate entities are putting the squeeze on sole traders in the joinery, plumbing, electrical etc. trades. ?
szarlotka 8 | 2,208
9 Apr 2008 #359
The EU
HMRC
DWP
H&SE

...to name but a few

Try working for your self and see the red tape, barriers to expansion, erosion of tax incentives that are springing up daily
MrBubbles 10 | 613
9 Apr 2008 #360
what corprate entities are putting the squeeze on sole traders in the joinery, plumbing, electrical etc. trades. ?

Look at the corporate tax situation in the UK and we'll discuss this further.

In the meantime, your original arguement has been proven to be full of nonsense. My name's MrBubbles, goodnight.

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