Is Britain a Death Cult?

Mother's physical health - anytime

Anything else - never.

Why is everybody so shocked?

To make room for the refugees, you have to kill your own. I don't see a problem.

Me too! What an idiot!!


Correct.


Correct.Why are there so few sensible posters like Feniks on PF?

I love Feniks, a little too liberal for my taste, but overall, she is a gem

Na sowas!

(couldn't find a better thread)


independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-britain-rejoin-eu-philip-rycroft-b2963962.html


Yeah....all the Brexiters who just wanted to close their borders to stop the unwanted immigration....that was a monumental failure!

Because in the UK case their issue with the EU unlike Poland's was superficial. Their real problem was and is a fact that their elites are 'liberal' and they are there with the best (worst) of them, a typical Epstein class as Iranians named it. I used to call them a liberal elite but Iranian nomenclature is superior to mine in this regard.
In short, they were conducting policies that were on par with most suicidal polices of the EU if not more suicidal.
Hence Brexit was just a symbolic gesture for the most part, or where it matters most.
Oh, and now they can be presented as a living example that escaping the EU doesn't lead to some great results. Which is not true, because the taste tubes have been tempered with.

I dunno Iron.....with Poland I'm still quite the observer....Poland just still hasn't all the unwanted-immigration problems the UK and (West)Germany and France and all those older-developed western countries had now for YEARS!

One could say: just wait, wait till Poland becomes also a much sought go-to-country...for work and living and better social services etc......lets hear you then....

East-Germany has alot less immigrants than West-Germany, and yet most Ossis vote for the AfD because they don't want to look one day like the West...and I believe similiar is true with most Brexiters!
They didn't trust Brussels to let them close the borders, but now they found out that their ruling elites are even more unable/unwilling to end the incoming.

People who don't want immigration should simply have more children.

Because no government, no matter if they're nazi, communist, leftist, rightist, monarchist or whatever, will ever allow their country to to turn: first, into a huge nursing home and second, into a huge graveyard - because that's exactly what will happen to European countries with current birthrates.

Immigrants are imported not by "ruling elites" but by people who have no children.

Are not the cause they are effect. My diagnose runs deeper than that.
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That, my friend, is the nastiest simplification I have seen.

A very wise statement.

Dissolve free trade agreements, restrict immigration, penalize offshoring of jobs, shorten average education length and greatly cut down the number of students of non-value added (read: useless or not in demand) majors and finally kill off the for-profit housing real estate sector (a private person renting one spare apartment is ok, a for profit corporation owning whole buildings is an abomination, especially if it is foreign-owned).

This should take care of high housing costs, low wages and settling down being delayed too much due to them or education. Not everyone will be convinced even if the economical circumstances for starting a family are ideal. Those however that do want to have one should have the conditions to have as many kids as possible. It would anyway be easier to help them than say convince a generation of women raised on shity anti-family entertainment that partying until your 30s (or 40s) is a bad life choice.

I'm inclined to believe that it's a false narrative.

It's upheld by the axiom of population "stagnation" or slight decline, being bad because of various reasons. The reasons don't matter so much, you can list them if you like, but the bottom line being that this is a "crisis".

Therefore, to solve this "crisis" we have to import people into these societies, lest "bad things" happen. See, the various reasons for why this is a "crisis".

In reality, the natural population of any species must reach an equilibrium. This is imperative and unavoidable.

So why is reality being dismissed in favor of a crisis narrative, that's the real question.

That never made sense to me.....we should be willing to pay and do for other peoples children what we are seemingly unwilling to do for our own???

@Korvinus
That is literally a Nazi economic manifesto. Couple it with your Jewish scapegoat belief and you have German 1930's right wing ideology. How did that work out last time?

Once again the kike instinctively resorts to cheap attempts of subversion.

@Korvinus
Care to explain how that is not national socialism?

@Barney
National Socialism was doomed from the outset because the train wreck of western civilization was already unstoppable. In order to compete at all with the modern world they had to adopt purely materialistic views and methods and that alone assured their defeat, because materialism is what led to liberalism in the first place. The fact National Socialism was superior to Dumbocracy in principle is redundant because it is still closer to the latter then a true traditional system. At the very least they should have allied themselves with Christianity for it alone could have offered a pan-national or supranational sense of unity for the European soul, but that would have conflicted with their "modern" nationalistic and socialistic ideas, which appealed to a selected few only, and had to be enforced using drastic and often violent means. Part of the blame for this of course lies in the Ghibelline spirit still inherent in the northern mentality, which still sees Christianity as an usurper and still carries this delusion of an Imperium, except this time detached from any form of spiritual authority but rather taken as an affirmation of the peculiar mental characteristics of the Aryan "race", taken as a purely biological rather then spiritual entity, an error that could have only ended in disaster. National Socialism wanted to build a new royal order based on purely materialistic precepts which were as soulless and as sterile as anything liberalism had to offer.
Western deviation have been once referred as a "criminal" rebellion to the spirit of God. In that sense, National Socialism wanted to curtail the worst excesses of the "criminal" spirit of liberalism while employing a sternness and discipline fit more for a barrack then an entire nation, while still retaining for itself a degree of this rebellion. Ultimately, the reason liberalism won is that if one wants to be a criminal in the eyes of God, why not just go all the way?

@Korvinus
Christ on a bike...

It's as I thought, the seemingly subtle change from western values to western civilisation as justification for anything that follows is not a good look let alone a coherent philosophy.

Could do better...

Edit: replacing "values" with "civilisation" is becoming more common and driven by the far right (see above) and a trope repeated across media outlets.

It tell you all you need to know. Nothing good comes of it, it is a bunch of narcissistic loonies and delusional nerds.
Lower ranks of the revolution are all opportunist bums with no moral bottom line.
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Values it is what liberals claim as their own. Civilization is by default Christian.

There is indeed a lot of similarities with Nazi ideology and progressivism. Godless form of totalitarianism that creates its own history, religion, and morality in order to secure an ever expanding nation for its people -- fits progressivism perfectly!

Naziism was atavistic and regressive whereas progressivism is futuristic.
Progressives don't concentrate or systematically exterminate their opponents either!

I understand that truth is painful but it is what it is.


What stagnation? Stagnation needs 2.1 children per woman just to keep the population the same.

Slight decline? Do you realise that in Poland the birthrate is 1.1 child per woman. That means that in every generation there is about a half of the number of children there were in the previous one - and then a quarter, and then 1/8. This is not "slight decline" - more like rolling extinction.


Yip. That's exactly what's happening. With children, BB, it is the same as with armies - if you don't want to support your own, you will support somebody elses.

@Ironside,
Civilization preceded Christianity by some millenia, e.g. the Greeks and the Romans, both heathens.

I have nothing against painful or not truth. I have a lot against simplification. If there is no enough people, you adjust, no go to import them or clone them.
Modernity created people who do need to work for scraps to survive, bums are living of a state charity, honest people can't afford more children because everyone what to maintain a certain standard of living.
Also there is a cultural war against family and family with many children.
Ergo, your equation less children more immigrants misses a few factors.
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I'm talking about Latin Civilization i.e. Western Civilization.

You don't know what you're talking about because the Romans were POGANINY!

Oh yes, they do, just look at yourself, you would bend over and kiss your ar*e for a chance of eliminating conservatives, you hypocrite.

The modern social system is doomed. Too many issues that are just being dealt with ad hoc solutions like importing people from other countries, or throwing money at the problem.

I'm sorry, it is my fault for talking to an idiot.

Then you must be talking to or about yourself, Ironside!
Enjoy the monologue, gonna get awful lonely...and boring.

Well, I do admit that my statement in question would seem to entail certain measure of oversimplification but I do, nonetheless, believe that is is fundamentally accurate.


Exactly. All that simply won't do.

We need to re-steer the entire culture back towards the Christian faith; return to the Gospel and to the virtues. Great Christian Revival - that's what we need and that's what we should pray for.

@przelotnyptak1,
I have no desire to exterminate Maggas. It's our Constitutional right to protect all US citizens, including misguided idiots😁.

The birthrate is way more than necessary.

Wrong, and utterly myopic. The collapse of the Polish population is a choice.

Anyway, the current birthrate is more than plentiful. Though it depends on what you think birthrate is for and why it needs to be higher.
Are there any reasons why you think the current birthrate is unsustainable?