Is Britain a Death Cult?

"Full term abortion is literally an abomination. Fewer than 1% of our people support it. Yet the British Parliament just legalised it. Britain as we knew it is finished. I am working on a significant speech addressing the collapse of the moral authority of the British state which I shall deliver shortly.
British society has become a death cult spending interminable hours debating state-suicide laws and now, infanticide.", George Galloway, leader of the far-left Workers Party of Britain and former MP, wrote on Facebook.

facebook.com/100044531825467/posts/1470129204481460/?rdid=kzCnoHkKxM8odP8N

What caused his outrage was the fact that on March 20th, the House of Lords of the British Parliament supported a bill to decriminalize abortion at any stage of pregnancy. This happened despite the lack of public support for such drastic measures. This means that the remaining legal protections for unborn life in England and Wales will cease to exist.

State-suicide for elderly and ill? Legal murder of unborn babies? Has Britain really become a death cult? What do you think?

@Torq

Some nuance necessary here - they have not allowed abortions up to birth, but they have freed women that do so from criminal prosecution.

The doctor that does it will still go to jail.

Not great, but not quite as surreal as Galloway makes it sound.

@Bobko

Phew... that's a relief.

The last thing the West wants is to facilitate the killing of unborn children in societies that are already dying out.

Much better than those dodgy gynaecologists that advertise "Pełny zakres usług" in newspaper ads.


In your opinion.


Why not? Better than jumping off a bridge if you're terminally ill and don't want a slow debilitating decline or swallowing pills like my neighbour Przemek or hanging yourself from a dog lead like a guy I knew in Mokotow or going all the way to Switzerland for it.

Hard to know what it's got to do with Poland or for that matter Galloway who not an elected politician and said that to pander to Muslim voters next time.


Torq expects women in other places to follow the rules of his religion, whatever it is this year.

About time too. That law dated back to the 19th Century. Even Poland with its strict abortion laws doesn't criminalise women for ending their own pregnancies.

That's not to say that I'm an advocate for late abortions.


I can't imagine there would be too many doctors in Britain that would be willing to perform or assist in full-term abortions.

You should be against abortions as a matter of principle.

....imagine all this state money put into the women and their unborn, giving guarantees.....but instead its put into immigrants, to fill the void.....everwhere where the self-declared progressives rules!

Why??? If its about womens rights, why can't they give the baby away....lotsa wanna-be-parents are waiting! There are alternatives....

Being against murder of unarmed human beings seems far fetched to many people. One country blows up kids with rockets, others use surgical tools before they are even born. What's next? Legalising arena's to have animals kill meat eating kids to please the vegetarians? What a nightmare

A lot of mental gymnastics from you, recently, to somehow excuse Poland's medieval barbarity. How many women have died in childbirth in Britain lately because doctors were hesitant to give them the medical abortions they needed? How many British women go abroad like refugees to get the abortions they want?

But no, please continue with "even Poland". I have to assume you don't actually live here, otherwise you wouldn't go on like it isn't a hell for women and many decades behind Britain and the west. Go and speak to some Polish women - ones that aren't brainwashed Catholic Stepford wives but modern ones - and ask in which country they would feel freer.

Up to them.

Moja pizda, moja decyzja as women sometimes say in PL.

I've never heard them say that. 🤷‍♂️

Really? Its quite common in the Chicks with Dicks circles.

rubbish. it's good business. lots of organs to be sold

I've heard that a few times.

Interesting that someone has made a thread (weirdly mentioning the UK) which is essentially whining because there are other people on the planet who don't share their religious views.

Sort of like ISIS or the Taliban or rabid American protestantism.

Interesting that the person who made the thread will never be pregnant either. Next he'll be suggesting that women stay at home praying all day or dressing in habits like those mentally ill women who used to join convents and in some places still do.

Hey punk those mentally ill women were the ones who pioneered medical and education for the poor and needy, before the socialists, and even after, as the socialists focussed on the working class and the christian nuns focused on the wretched. Show some respect to the herstory of it all.

Too far. Too low. Not an argument to be taken seriously.

The words that you quoted weren't written by me but by a far-left politician, George Galloway.

But now that you mention it, I certainly do consider a full-term abortion to be an abomination.


I have been Roman Catholic all my life, with the short exception of a two-year misadventure with hardcore, puritan Calvinism. Both these denominations are staunchly against murdering unborn children. We are not, however, discussing my religion but a quotation from a far-left Workers Party of Britain politician and former MP, George Galloway.


You mean, George Galloway, who weirdly mentioned that "Britain as we knew it is finished" and that "British society has become a death cult"?

Don't worry, Jon is just fuming because dear George is an old Marxist-Leninist comrade in arms of his, from the picket lines and protests during the early Thatcher years.

Which only proves that there are decent people even among Marxists-Leninists. Fair play to Mr Galloway for standing up for the weakest, defenseless members of British society. That's what genuine Left, the Left that I can respect, should always do.

He isn't.


It isn't.

Stop trying to impose your religious views on people who don't share them.

What is full term abortion if not murdering unborn children? Enlighten me.


Nothing to do with religion. I doubt if George Galloway, being a far-left Workers Party of Britain politician, is a very religious person; and yet - he said what he said.

This is not about Britain allowing full-term abortion, which is what I think Torq originally thought when he opened this thread. It is about repealing a law which meant that women could be prosecuted and potentially imprisoned for ending their pregnancies.

The abortion laws have not changed in the UK.

bills.parliament.uk/publications/53621/documents/4252


Except what he said wasn't true. Parliament has not legalised full-term abortion.

He isn't. Closer to fascism if anything.


Exactly. This is a non-story.

Ah, so there's hope for Albion after all?

Why such reaction from someone so close to British politics though (a politician and a former MP)? Perhaps there is more to it?


Workers Party of Britain is socialist, right? Of course, you are quite right that socialists are essentially fascists (after all, Nazis were national socialists).

Not really.


Largely despised.


They weren't, any more than the Democratic Republic of Korea is democratic.

George Galloway is well-known for using provocative tactics. He's an attention seeker who loves being in the spotlight.

Last time I remember seeing him on TV he was pretending to be a cat.........

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... a bit undignified for an MP.

Got it in one.

Whatever somebody may or may not think about abortion, that guy doesn't actually care.

Anyway, he's not an MP now.

iinm it's only ever undertaken in cases where the fetus is not viable in a way that could threaten the mother's health, it's not like woen carry a pregnancy forf 8 and a hlaf months and says "iI'm done, scrape it out!"

it's usually a heartbreaking scenario where it's the least awful option.

There is a solution. Any senior politician should be asked this question on public TV: "Are you pro or against abortion?" Then get back to it after a vote on that. If he or she lied, an automatic removal from the office applies with no payment and a refund of their salaries to the tax payers. But most people have no balls to follow through.