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Holidays in Poland, is it still worth coming here?


Novichok  7 | 10597
1 Jul 2026   #31
This thread is about tourists and holidays in Poland, right?

Some tourists never leave. Some fly planes into tall buildings.

Tourists are a plague. In the host country, very few benefit from them while many suffer. Hence, anti-tourism attitudes almost everywhere.

On top of that, their English sucks.


Lyzko9bda5804d1feebf
1 Jul 2026   #32
You got that one right!


OP Alien  31 | 7995
1 Jul 2026   #33
Tourists are a plague

Europe earns €800000000000 per year from this plague. 🤔


AntV  7 | 1265
1 Jul 2026   #34
Tourists are a plague.

Novi's ideal world: 100 foot electrified walls with missile launching turrets every 25 yards around every border throughout the globe.


Lyzko9bda5804d1feebf
1 Jul 2026   #35
Plague = Revenue (Umsatz, obrot)


jon357  77 | 25739
1 Jul 2026   #36
missile launching turrets every 25 yards around every border

Don't forget the gallows.

Plague = Revenue

There used to be the 'torture museum' in the basement of Poznan Stary Ratusz. A few cities had them around Europe. Tacky 'for-profit' private museums, basically a sideshow, with reconstructed iron maidens and racks.


OP Alien  31 | 7995
2 Jul 2026   #37
Plague = Revenue

It's not just about money. America is great... but that's where its attractions end. Europe is small but has countless tourist and artistic attractions. For example, yesterday we went to the theater and saw a play about Columbus (glorifying the United States). Who has a theater in the town where they are on vacation in the USA?


PlagueOfTourists
2 Jul 2026   #38
Who has a theater in the town where they are on vacation in the USA?

How many Polish towns have a bar? LOL

I'm guessing you mean 'city' btw, because nobody goes on vacation to a 'town' unless they're doing an 'outdoors' trip, hiking and so on, or it's a beach vacation. US cities have theatres, museums, galleries, culture. Some random small Polish town will probably just have a church, Zabka, apteka, maybe a really crappy pizza/kebab place and that's probably it.

Europe earns €800000000000 per year from this plague

The broke southern Europeans would really be struggling without it. They can complain about tourism all they like but we all know it's holding up their economies.


AntV  7 | 1265
2 Jul 2026   #39
Who has a theater in the town where they are on vacation in the USA?

Much more than you apparently think. America isn't wanting for theaters and art museums, even in smaller towns.

What Europe has that America doesn't have is the ancient and medieval history and the astounding amount of great architecture.

Not that America doesn't have great buildings. One of my faves in my fair city:


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jon357  77 | 25739
2 Jul 2026   #40
One of my faves in my fair city:

Nice. Has a look of Krushchev era architecture after they started reducing the ornamentation of the Stalin gothic style. There are a few buildings like that in PL and even more in Ukraine?

Europe is small but has countless tourist and artistic attractions

Some parts more than others, however yes, there is usually something to see.


AntV  7 | 1265
2 Jul 2026   #41
Has a look of Krushchev era architecture

Krushchev?! Pffft! 😄

That's classical beaux-arts style architecture.


jon357  77 | 25739
2 Jul 2026   #42
Krushchev

Yep.

classical beaux-arts style

As is so much late fifties Soviet stuff.

A nice style.


AntV  7 | 1265
2 Jul 2026   #43
As is so much late fifties Soviet stuff.

Seriously? Hmmm...I need to familarize myself with more soviet architecture.


Lyzko9bda5804d1feebf
2 Jul 2026   #44
@Alien, with "great", you actually mean "big", "large" (gross), right? Yes, I'd agree that our size and the grandeur of our natural wonders are our biggest selling point.

Europe has an ancient culture, unbroken within one people per country for a thousand years.


Novichok  7 | 10597
2 Jul 2026   #45
I am sure the Soviet architecture is better at surviving earthquakes than the democratic one in Venezuela.


jon357  77 | 25739
2 Jul 2026   #46
I need to familarize myself with more soviet architecture.

Have a look at some of the buildings in Kyiv. The style changed to n Krushchev's time, a conscious rejection of Stalin Gothic.

You can see the difference by looking at the older tube stations in M*sc*w and those in Kyiv,


AntV  7 | 1265
2 Jul 2026   #47
@jon357

Will do. Thanks for the heads up.


PlagueOfTourisfs
2 Jul 2026   #48
Europe has an ancient culture, unbroken within one people per country for a thousand years.

Eh? Bit of a generalisation.

The English, for instance, are a gigantically mixed up, mongrel people. Harried by vikings, colonised by
Romans and Normans, a language that is basically a pick-and-mix of the greatest hits of French, Latin and Germanic, hardly any indigenous folk culture left, they are pretty much the opposite of a timeless monolith. The same can be said for many.

The Greeks, though, are basically the same people who built the Parthenon and set sail with Odysseus across the wine-dark sea. You can feel the unbroken continuity of their culture, it's impressive as hell.


jon357  77 | 25739
2 Jul 2026   #49
hardly any indigenous folk culture left

Plenty. Unless by indigenous you mean pre-Roman and you'll find nothing that old in PLexcept for the few stone circles that they didn't deliberately destroy many decades ago at the behest of clergy. Plenty of old traditions in the U.K., some with origins older than PL.

The Greeks, though, are basically the same people who built the Parthenon and set sail..

Are you being sarcastic?


PlagueOfTourists
2 Jul 2026   #50
Are you being sarcastic

No, perfectly sincere. Same language they've been using for millennia, living in the same ancient cities, same musical traditions (for one) and so on. They strike me as the closest you'll get in Europe to what Lyszko is describing.


Lyzko9bda5804d1feebf
2 Jul 2026   #51
@Plague,
Britain's population traditionally consisted of solely those groups mentioned, scarcely a "mongrel breed"!
Nowadays, I'll grant you 'tis no longer, same for Ireland. Scotland, Wales? Not sure.


jon357  77 | 25739
2 Jul 2026   #52
Same language they've been using for millennia

They really haven't. And about the cities, the Greek world in the past was different, the population centres were elsewhere and much of what the middle classes of modern Greece say about their cultural links to Ancient Greece are a mix of wishful thinking, mythology and cultural cringe.

To find truly unchanged and indigenous? Probably impossible, however maybe Iceland (also a genetic mix) and some parts Scandinavia might do. That and the Mari-El, and the Khanti and Mansi in r*SSia might count however they're heavily r*Ssianised.

About the Greeks, there's one group within them, the Maniot people, who are perhaps closest to the Greeks from before the Frankish kingdom.


mafketis  45 | 12315
2 Jul 2026   #53
what the middle classes of modern Greece say about their cultural links to Ancient Greece

IIRC genetic testing suggested a _very_ large percentage of Greeks are hellenized Albanians (the same way a very large majority of Hungarians are magyarized Slavs and Germans).


Feniks  1 | 1133
5 Jul 2026   #54
Europe has that America doesn't have is the ancient and medieval history and the astounding.amount of great architecture..

True. Which is why I prefer Europe for a holiday. If I ever get to the US, it would be mainly the national parks I would be interested in visiting. Love a good hike. You guys have the AT. Maybe one day I could give parts of that a go.

I will be in Poland next month but I'm certainly not looking forward to the EES delays. Up to 6 hour queues at some airports :(


OP Alien  31 | 7995
5 Jul 2026   #55
delays. Up to 6 hour queues at some airports

I arrived in Poland this morning. This usually crowded highway was empty.


jon357  77 | 25739
5 Jul 2026   #56
I'm certainly not looking forward to the EES delays

Into Warsaw it's usually fairly quick, Modlin quicker.

If you pay the fiver extra to Wizz/Ryan to sit near the front, it does mean you get through quicker.


Lenka  6 | 3665
5 Jul 2026   #57
I will be in Poland next month but I'm certainly not looking forward to the..

Me too!

Polish consulate is quite busy with all the people doing passports for their dual national kids to avoid the queues

it does mean you get through quicker.

Unless you go on the buss, the back door is opened first or people are quicker walking...


jon357  77 | 25739
5 Jul 2026   #58
the back door is opened first or people are quicker walking...

True, however it's generally a good bet, especially at Modlin.

The last time I went through there the non-EU queue was shifting faster than the EU queue which was a surprise.


Feniks  1 | 1133
6 Jul 2026   #59
Into Warsaw it's usually fairly quick,

I'm flying into Krakow which apparently is one of the airports with queue problems. To be honest I really wish I'd left having a trip abroad this year.
I guess it mostly depends on how many flights arrive at the same time.

Me too!

Happy holidays!!

Unless you go on the buss, the back door is opened first or people are..

Exactly. A lot depends on this.


jon357  77 | 25739
6 Jul 2026   #60
having a trip abroad this year.

Lviv is nice; probably nicer than any city currently in Poland. It's got a Polish feel, and Austrian mitteleuropa feel and a Ukrainian feel. Very tourist friendly too. I was there last week.





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