Behavior of Polish travellers on Planes.

I would agree you have label an entire country of people rude from a single situation. Look at us in the US, we provide an endless supply of EU offenses when we travel but not all of us are incoherent drunks and idiots.

Seems to be a lot of pseudo Polish apologists out there. Let's start, I have not labelelled an entire nation as irratating travelers.To reiterate I am questioning the responsibility of those who use history or occupation as an excuse for lack of social etiquette. If you want to a restaurant for a nice meal and the people on the table next to you behaved in an irresponsible manner and invaded your space or drank their own drinks- would you just sit there and accept? Last night I went for dinner with a group of Polish professionals and proposed explained the situation as n post 1. Their collective response was as follows. We do not travel on any low budget airline in Poland, the type of person you find on these planes are mostly ill mannered, low educated blue collared immigrant workers which lack any form of social etiquette. They would much prefer to fly Luhthansa, KLM, BA or LOT even if it means taking a connecting flight short haul. A couple of posters have mentioned the lack of queuing etiquette in airports, I am sure these travelers do not turn into model citizens as soon as they board a plane...

Who, exactly, is doing that here?


You were on that plane, right?

Roger, your not Polish so I am sure you do not use polish history or occupation as an excuse for lack of social etiquette.

From my experience the general consensus from well travelled Polish professionals is to avoid the ill mannered hordes at all costs. If you choose to travel via modlin on Ryanair it's not a wonder you experience the stag parties as previously stated.

@Traveler: it comforts my staying away from low cost companies ;). I am first of all against the exploitation of passengers and of their staff by low cost companies (cies such as Ryan and Wizzair are famous exploiters). I suppose low cost flights between UK and Poland must be really "something else" so behavior as above is to be expected ;).

As said, I only travel with regular companies and trust me, when taking advantage of their promotions, very often it is not more expensive than with low costs, especially in heavy periods such as Christmas and summer. Not only it is often not more expensive with regular companies but also travelling with them we leave from/arrive at better and more convenient airports, we have better schedules and better services on board.

Right on, the working people that know how to enjoy life and not walk around like they have a board stuck up their backside with their nose in the air.

Sounds like you want us to think you should be flying on your own private jet with your starched white shirt friends.
Accept the fact that when you get on any plane that you now are a captive audience to things out of your righteous protective comfort zone.

Welcome to the real world T1 as all those "ill mannered hordes" don't worry about appeasing stiff lipped fingers pointing down people with nothing more to give thought to as being offended by someone not toeing the line.

If you are as uppity as you want us to think you are then why aren't you flying first class to avoid the "ill mannered hordes" that you despise so mush ????

I'll bet you have never farted as loud as you can have you ?
Have some fun in life old boy and quit being so stuffy.

I never have, though. Perhaps I've been lucky. The only time I experienced bad behaviour on a plane was in business class when a British guy in my row was drunk and spilled red wine over a very dignified Polish gentleman in a cream linen suit.

" you should be flying on your own private jet " he aspires to it but can't afford it then moans , typical middle class liberal, what a bore.

I was one of them, and no, I've never observed the so called bad behaviour you're talking about by Poles on planes.


Really? All of these people are as you describe? I'm not Polish, but have flown to Poland many times on budget airlines, mainly because if I wanted to fly LOT for example, I would have to make a 2/3 hour trip to another airport as opposed to one which is half an hour away. I think I can live with a 2 hour Ryanair flight without suffering any real hardship ;)

Not only are you ill informed but an absolute snob as well!


He is just trolling InPolska. I think I would have noticed the type of behaviour he is describing by now given the amount of times I've flown in and out of Poland over the last few years.

For sure Ryanair is just a flying bus, but a roughly 2 hour flight between the UK and Poland is hardly long haul is it?

But they are well behaved on the plane itself of course. It's their ridiculously impatient behaviour at an overcrowded airport itself in the queues, and the airplane steps et al that is often beyond the pale. If I return the favour they always give me a wide berth for the rest of the proceedings, but it's all so unnecessary.

Try a few Chinese internal flights, It will make you see Polish Travelers in a completely different light

I have just returned on a 3 hour flight from Poland. Next to me sat a couple, who for the whole flight did not exchange a word between them. This made me very sad, as if a married couple has nothing to say to each other, then we are all doomed......

You are uptight. We like to drink alcohol on special occasions not like others every day and so travelling is a happy occasion, those prohibitions on alcohol are ridiculous, Polish are correct, drink up!

Seat allocation is biggest idiotism ever, big deal where one sits, it is not a problem big enough to make a fuss.

It is not of communism or anything else it is because we are normal not uptight like others, that's why. Do not remind us anything, go and have a drink and not be so uptight and stiff like a penis anymore.

All 38 million?


A very big deal if you pay to sit near the front, or for extra legroom and there's some hassle because an oaf is sitting in your seat.

Uptight.

In what way is it 'uptight' to expect to sit in a seat you've paid extra for?

Nonsense as it is often the case there are always few idiots unable to hold their liquor well.


It is in fact a big deal for two reasons;
a, security
b, money


He is making things as he go along, a sad twisted troll. Your response somehow makes his ramblings more credible.

It is the same seat ok, only capitalist spoiled brat gets uptight about everything related to money, things were simpler and more normal when people did not expect to be treated like lords because they paid for something. If you sit by the window or not will it kill you? No.

How do you know they were idiots? Just because they were drinking and behaving like drunks (drunks do not yet constitute idiots or hazardous)? Those uptight airlines make up laws and if you break one rule they make a big story about it and you think in Polish categories (I make the same mistake) that something horrible must have happened for such a fuss to occur but in reality nothing happened. They probably just drank and maybe sang some songs which to average English lord is too much, they are not fun people like us, you have to know that.

The law is the law, if you think its ok to break it - enjoy jail. Or in this case being ejected from the aircraft.

On an aircraft, the Captain is the law. You have nothing, including your life, that he doesn't control.

just like that? without a parachute?

If you ever actually bother to read newspapers, you will see that there have been many occasions where passengers have had a few too many and end up being arrested for their behaviour on planes, and is some cases, planes have been diverted. It is a question of safety.


No-one expects to be 'treated like a lord', but now there is the option of seat allocation, and if a passenger has chosen this, then it's perfectly reasonable for said passenger to sit in the seat he/she has paid for yes?


That type of behaviour may well be considered hazardous on an aircraft.

excessive quoting is forbidden

In the obsessive world of so called terrorist threat Americans and their funny friends have become obsessed with safety, not to mention the capitalist craziness with suing and suing some more. Maybe lay off wars and you will not have to fear terrorists and then won't have make ridiculous rules regarding drinking on airplane. No drunk Polish ever brought an airplane down, so calm down with your so called safety thing or you will die from stress.

Reading online news this morning, I noticed that an American model was arrested 2 days ago in Austin Texas for being drunk and fighting with the flight crew on a plane. You think that's acceptable behaviour? Don't bother answering, you're just trolling anyway.

My guess is that poganin has never flown.

Neither have I, but like Birdman, I've been tempted:)

I do sort of see Poganin's point. All these extras are getting stupid, like you pay for this, you pay for that, so the airport resembles the Polish mountains near Katowice, where miners' families laughably got access to an express ski-gate:)

I have the ideal solution.

For busy times, the airlines should simply have two planes - same price - in tandem:) The first plane boards first (but with ONLY a five minute advantage) with piped in hip-hop, a free-for-all:); and the second takes off 5 minutes later, after patient queuing and priority boarding, and Rokita style hats de rigeur, and absolutely no pushingl

I reckon, like the OP, that Poles love aggravation and generally act with a herd instinct, and they seem to believe that 5 minutes is everything, so they would en-masse choose the first plane (except for Rokita et al - including moi)

They sound entirely like idiots if they're getting drunk on planes and singing songs.

I can just imagine pog getting up at three in the morning to catch an early flight, getting sweaty and hacked off in interminable queues, suffering a headache, then getting jostled onto a plane full of drunken singers. Yes, I'm sure he'd smile indulgently and even join in.

What? It is an observation that runs contrary to the conclusions some others observes derived from their interaction with Poles. Your failed attempt exemplifies the old truth that all generalizations of complex issues based on a personal observations are worthless and destine to fail.


Someone who can't hold his drink well is an idiot per definition! There is a time and place for everything and rowdy behavior isn't something that should be tolerated on a public transport let alone a plane regardless of his nationality, creed or a race.


Should have charter a private jet rather than disrupt peace and quiet of their fellow passengers. Some people like to sleep during their flight or to do to some work on their laptops, their are children and old or sick people. If somebody feel like singing he should first learn how to sing and find a proper place to do that - they should join a choir.


If somebody decided to pay more for a particular seat it means that such a seat is in demand - so no it is not the same seat and anyhow that seat belongs to the person who paid for it.

Couldn't agree more, Ironside. But in fairness, Poles seem to be pretty well behaved on planes - you never see large groups getting wasted first thing in the morning, unlike on 6am flights from the UK somewhere...

Hence the OP is a sad witless troll Q.E.D.