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Prince 15 | 590
29 Jan 2009 #91
I never knew there were so many here, they are wonderful.

Well ... in many other european countries Aristocracy lived in properties owned by king and was just to collect taxes, they had good live thought but they weren't so rich because they had their king. In Poland king was elected in democratic way by aristocracy and was dependent from aristocracy... it was kind of democracy for 10% of people. In comparison 100 years after the end of 1st Polish republic only 2% of people in UK had similar rights.

Going back to money ... aristocracy was rich because king was weak, and king was just executing aristocracy decisions. That is why in Poland you can find so many palaces as long as they Aristocrats weren't working on despotic ruler.
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
29 Jan 2009 #92
That is why in Poland you can find so many palaces.

Perhaps you should start a thread on it.
I am sure there is a lot more to these palaces than just their architecture.
Aristocracy can have lots of skeletons in closets, perhaps that is why they needed such big palaces, to house all the closets :)

How did they heat them?,
I would move in to a small section and keep it heated all winter and then move to the West wing for summer :)
Prince 15 | 590
29 Jan 2009 #93
Perhaps you should start a thread on it. I am sure there is a lot more to these palaces than just their architecture.

Not tonight I have a lot of work to do.

How did they heat them?,

You can read history of some palaces in Poland there is a lot of information about it.

Palace which was owned by my ancestors had been changing heating technologies together with technological progress :)
McCoy 27 | 1,269
31 Jan 2009 #94
Archcathedral Basilica of St. Peter and St. Paul in Poznań

Poland Poznan Church

Golden Chapel. There are repose two first rulers of Poland - prince Mieszko I and his son king Bolesław Chrobry.

Chapel in Poland

Stary Browar in Poznań
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
6 Feb 2009 #95
Mała Rynek, (Small market square).
This used to be an old crapy taxi rank/carpark.
The buildings were/are obviously beautiful and the renovation looks, well you can see for yourself.

Mała Rynek, is behind the Mariacki church on Rynek Głowny (Main market square) Krakow.

Photo taken today 060209



time means 5 | 1,309
6 Feb 2009 #96
Ossoilineum in Wroclaw is a beauty

where in wroclaw is this mcCoy? the bottom pic rings a bell.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379
6 Feb 2009 #97
where in wroclaw is this

read post 107
time means 5 | 1,309
6 Feb 2009 #98
it is within 100m of Hala Targowa.

i`m not sure of the above. when you have a local guiding its easy lol. from which end of the rynek. the jazzda end or the pizza hut end or is it the opposite side?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,379
6 Feb 2009 #99
i`m not sure of the above

It's on Grodzka (street), which runs alongside the river. Opposite Piaskowa Island. Near Hala Targowa.
The first photo seems to have been taken from the road bridge leading on to Piaskowa... and Ostrow Tumski.
time means 5 | 1,309
7 Feb 2009 #100
The first photo seems to have been taken from the road bridge leading on to Piaskowa... and Ostrow Tumski.

doh. i have it now thanks wroclaw.
impete82 3 | 29
13 Feb 2009 #101
i'm going back in about 20 years, and looking at images of poland is really getting me excited and reminding me how sad it is not to be back in so long lol
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Mar 2009 #102
originally designed for RFM FM (radio station) it is now a film studio.
I think it looks like something on Mars :)

Near Wrocław.

Śnieżka (click here) - sniezka.karpacz.pl/index.php?lang=2&menu1=4&menu2=1&menu3=1&nrobr=1
McCoy 27 | 1,269
17 Mar 2009 #103
Wroclow

Jesus Christ, not you Sean, not you. Its Wroclaw for gods sake. (;

Border line between Poland and Czech rep goes through the top of Sniezka and Sniezka is the highest peak of czechia.
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Mar 2009 #104
I am trying to find an image for it.
it collapsed yesterday.
I can't post the image but I can post the link to the forum that has the photo of the collapse.

This is the meteor station, so the weather forecast might be wrong until they rebuild or relocate.
McCoy 27 | 1,269
17 Mar 2009 #105
This is the meteor station, so the weather forecast might be wrong until they rebuild or relocate.

i know, i wonder if they rebuild the station in the same shape or they will make smth new there. old one was cool imo
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Mar 2009 #106
Here is what Galleria Krakowska could have looked like.

I hope so. They reckon that a huge amount of snow fell near by and shook the foundations causing the collapse.
gdj67 15 | 154
17 Mar 2009 #107
For the best modern architecture, this is probably the best resource on the web.

mimoa.eu/search/?search=poland&rt=projects

G
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Mar 2009 #108
For the best modern architecture, this is probably the best resource on the web.

Thanks G, nice one.

"Warsaw
Zlote Tarasy (Golden Terraces) is one of those commercial megastructures that are cropping up all over the world. More than 200.000 square meters of mixed-use development."

Poland Zlote Tarasy
gdj67 15 | 154
17 Mar 2009 #109
one of those commercial megastructures

.......i agree, but even though this one completely ignores its context it is actually a pretty well designed shopping centre - the circular route means that you always know where you are and its difficult to get lost unlike some others I could mention. The Engineering (By Arup Warsaw) is incredibly complex and one of the biggest issues they had to over come was the snow loading. Managing to solve this without huge I beams everywhere is pretty impressive.

Here's our submission for MoMA on the other side of the Palace of Culture from 2007.



OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
18 Mar 2009 #110
The Engineering (By Arup Warsaw) is incredibly complex and one of the biggest issues they had to over come was the snow loading.

I can imagine, how are they going to enforce the structure?.

Here's our submission for MoMA on the other side of the Palace of Culture from 2007.

I like the roof top park areas, it is a nice break from the concrete and there are probably views up there, great for lunchs or just reading a book, out door exhibitions, possibly ice sculpting in winter.

I do not like the blockyness of a lot of modern architecture that so many architects seem to enjoy designing these days.
I always imagine it in a decade's time when it is covered in exhaust fumes and blackened by pollution and it falls back into a kind of warehouse/block.

Lovely nice glassed area in the front, large and spacey, natural light streaming in, fabulous.

---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------

This won the tender.
Museum of Modern Art Warsaw.
Again I have to say, it looks like another block in Warsaw.
The wavy roof is interesting with the perforations but you can not see that from street level.

moma farm-

Here is a youtube link of the maquette of the interior
MOMA Warsaw
McCoy 27 | 1,269
26 Mar 2009 #111
New vision of Defilad square presented today by the city authorities :
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
27 Mar 2009 #112
Wow, time to get in the glass production industry.
Salomon 2 | 436
15 May 2009 #113
As to present times.

In my opinion there will be more and more such buildings in Poland :

It is Sulejówek in Masovian Voivodeship.

It is nice example of revitalization in Wrocław :

Late modernism wasn't looking good (it is not only my opinion) It is time for change.

It is building before revitalisation :

and after :

This building doesn't have interesting form but functionality.

Building goes 18 meters underground. It doesn't need traditional heating or air conditioning. It has heat pumps (durring summer they cool down) and uses geotermal water. Building has units which intercept hot air exhaled by people inside of it ( reused for heating reasons...). When building is empty computer changes it into kind of thermos to not loose warm inside... wentilation is being closed, units which need power turned off.

Pszczyna, Poland
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
15 May 2009 #114
In my opinion there will be more and more such buildings in Poland :

The use of wood looks very Scandinavian to me, i like that look but I do not like gated communities.
I have noticed a tendency to put a big fence with a keypad code gate, around housing estates or apartment blocks and I feel that it segregates people.

I think it offers people a false sence of security and makes people think they are exclusive but really it is just over charging, do you know what I mean?.

It is nice example of revitalistation in Wrocław :

Was the original building demolished or did they add on to it?.
I am not mad about the façade but the interior looks very interesting :)

Some new wooden houses are interesting as well.

Wonderful, I love it.
I would like to see more of these interesting projects go up.
Lovely use of materials and form.
I like the Marquette, very interesting and although a simple looks very well.
I see far too many block or square forms used in modern architecture, it seems the architects played too much with lego as children ;)
Salomon 2 | 436
15 May 2009 #115
Reed - who would think few years ago that we are going to have come back of reed on our roofs ...

Reed isolates houses well (better than till) and is very ecological. Production process is much more cleaner than in case of tile ...

trzcina.pl/dachy_eng.html

REED CHARACTERISTICS

Reed values, as a natural raw material used for roofing, are unique:
uncontaminated ecological product;
does not crumble inside;
perfectly harmonizes with landscape;
insulating power 98%;
natural mineralization;
25 years guarantee and at least 50 years endurance

Going back to the city...

Postindustrial 19 century space is being used properly. First 4 stars hotel in £ódz is being build in building of old factory :

In my opinion:
It is going to be something similar to stary browar in poznan
OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
15 May 2009 #116
Reed

Thatched white washed cottages were the icon of Irish life but since has almost gone from public use although some of the wealthier population still use this in their houses.

Because of the fairly recent deviation from thatched roofs, it has become difficult to find professionals that can do the job properly.
What kind of maintenance do thatched roofs need?, how often does it need to be changed? does it need to be cleaned?.

First 4 stars hotel in £ódz is being build in building of old factory :

I hope they keep that beautiful old factory brick work.
This transformation was very popular in Ireland and England.
Personally I love it :)
Salomon 2 | 436
15 May 2009 #117
£ódz with anthem - Prząśniczka


OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Jun 2009 #118
Thanks for that, very nice song too.
I have not been to £ódz, yet.
I see it has the grid system town plan, I have not seen that before in Poland.
And the architecture at the beginning, before the renovated factories, could easily be from Vilnius in Lithuania.

Here are four snap shots from around the centre of Krakow.

I love that doorway guarded by dragons, simply exquisite.


  • Dragon doorway

  • Main market square




OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
17 Jun 2009 #119
On the corner. Karmelickiej i Batorego you can find Teodor Talowski's house Kamienica Pod Pająkiem, ( Grand old building under the spider).
I know I did this before but it is an amazing building.









OP SeanBM 35 | 5,806
19 Jun 2009 #120
The face only a mother could love? :)

I have walked by this building in Krakow, across from hala targowa, and with all the badly brightly coloured commercials, only noticed it yesterday.
I spotted this very interesting sculpting half way up the building, on it's corner.
One of the charms of Poland, are the almost hidden gems.

One thing I want to do in future to this thread is involve the apartment blocks, it is part of the picture.





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