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When will Polish schools start to recruit for September 2011?


Jars777 20 | 70
11 Apr 2011 #1
Hello

I was wondering if anyone know when Polish schools start recruiting for for September 2011? There doesn't seem to be much around yet.
Are they quite far behind compared to UK high schools?

We are particularly looking for high schools in Gdansk.

Thanks
Jars
pawian 175 | 13,551
12 Apr 2011 #2
Schools are free to set the dates. Most often, from mid- May to mid June.
Why don`t you check your school`s website?

pan.ids.gda.pl/drupal/?q=node/10
OP Jars777 20 | 70
12 Apr 2011 #3
Sorry... I didn't make it clear... I mean recruitment for teachers not for pupils. Thank you for the link though.

Any ideas for teachers?

Thanks
Jars
Ajb 6 | 232
12 Apr 2011 #4
I mean recruitment for teachers

Most schools have started to think about next year.... the best way it to be proactive and give the schools a call and speak to the director/DOS now....
OP Jars777 20 | 70
12 Apr 2011 #5
@Ajb: Thank you for your reply. Do you think it will be ok to phone the international schools even if we can only speak English?

Thanks
Jars
pawian 175 | 13,551
12 Apr 2011 #6
I was wondering if anyone know when Polish schools start recruiting for for September 2011? There doesn't seem to be much around yet. Are they quite far behind compared to UK high schools?

Do you think it will be ok to phone the international schools even if we can only speak English?

Oops. I am not sure if I get it correctly. You speak only English and want to find a position in a Polish high school?
delphiandomine 85 | 18,261
12 Apr 2011 #7
I was wondering if anyone know when Polish schools start recruiting for for September 2011? There doesn't seem to be much around yet.

You do realise that the salary in a Polish school will be about 1100zl brutto for a teacher at the lowest rank?

As for international schools - forget it. Those jobs go only to those "in the know".
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
12 Apr 2011 #8
You do realise that the salary in a Polish school will be about 1100zl brutto for a teacher at the lowest rank?

Prove It.

I was wondering if anyone know when Polish schools start recruiting

If you don't speak Polish and want to teach English, you should target private language schools.
pawian 175 | 13,551
12 Apr 2011 #9
delphiandomine:
You do realise that the salary in a Polish school will be about 1100zl brutto for a teacher at the lowest rank?
Prove It.

Actually, 1363.

daczyszyn.laszczow.pl/index.php?art=119
delphiandomine 85 | 18,261
13 Apr 2011 #10
Actually, 1363.

Hang on.

I'm even more confused than ever. By reading this - does it confirm that it's perfectly possible for someone with a BA to start working in a school, with the CELTA?

I was always under the impression that it was obligatory for teachers to have an MA with an approved teacher training qualification/modules?
pawian 175 | 13,551
13 Apr 2011 #11
does it confirm that it's perfectly possible for someone with a BA to start working in a school, with the CELTA?

Yes, BA graduates teach English in schools, even at high school level. Even without CELTA. I know a few. What`s so surprising? They are good teachers.

I was always under the impression that it was obligatory for teachers to have an MA with an approved teacher training qualification/modules?

It has changed. There are schools which face the dilemma of hiring a BA English teacher or having no teacher at all. What do you think they do?
OP Jars777 20 | 70
13 Apr 2011 #12
Thank you for the replies.

It is actually my husband. He is a qualified teacher + TEFL and has been teaching in the UK for 9 years. We don't speak any Polish at present time. A friend of ours (also British) got a job at a private British high school.

Is it really that bad as a teacher in Poland? Would you earn more as a private teacher at a language school?

Thanks
Jars
scottie1113 7 | 898
13 Apr 2011 #13
Yes, it really is that bad as a teacher in the public school system. I have several Polish friends who teach and the highest monthly income I've heard about is 1450zl. Private language schools are the way to go if you want to eat.
Harry
13 Apr 2011 #14
Is it really that bad as a teacher in Poland? Would you earn more as a private teacher at a language school?

Yes it is that bad: my girlfriend teaches at a state high school and doesn't take home enough to pay her rent.

Yes you will earn more as a teacher at a language school, at least twice as much.

BTW: there are no international schools in Gdansk.
OP Jars777 20 | 70
13 Apr 2011 #15
Gosh.. thank you for your replies. Will look at language schools then.

Harry: BTW: there are no international schools in Gdansk.

I believe there are international schools in Gdansk, as examples

- The New: International School of Gdansk
- World school
Harry
13 Apr 2011 #16
- World school

Polish state school that runs the IB program.

The New International School of Gdansk

Has that one actually opened yet? And private schools are best avoided. I used to work at a private school in the Tri-city and during the Matura exam I as the only one of the three people on the examining committee who could actually speak English....
OP Jars777 20 | 70
27 Apr 2011 #17
Hi there

Has anyone got any recommendations for language schools, international schools or state schools in the Tri-City area? We could do with some help as we aren't getting any replies.

Thanks
Harry
27 Apr 2011 #18
English Unlimited is the biggest EFL school in the Tri-city area. ELS-Bell the second biggest. I wouldn't want to work for either. Distinction Language Services is run by an utter prat. None of them pay anything remotely close to decent money.

How many times do you need to be told that you would not be able to survive on the money paid by a Polish state school? Seriously, it wouldn't even pay your rent.
OP Jars777 20 | 70
27 Apr 2011 #19
Thank you for your reply.... sorry if I annoyed you with my comment. Was not my intention.

So, is there any school in the Tri-City area that you can honestly recommend or are you basically telling me to give up on English teaching in the Tri-City area?

Thanks
Harry
27 Apr 2011 #20
Well, you certainly won't starve to death working for either English Unlimited or ELS-Bell. But you won't be looking at taking home anything more than 3,000zl per month (i.e. £600). Expect to pay at least 1,500zl for a liveable two-bed flat near the city centre. Even if you supplement the income with some private lessons, it's not going to be a good lifestyle, or even an easy one, unless you both work full time teaching EFL.

The good news is that once you are out here, it is fairly easy to make contacts which can direct you to the better paying work (after a year or two).
cjj - | 281
27 Apr 2011 #21
There's an American School in Gdynia

americanschool.pl/index.php?lang=us

Also some schools with some of the teaching in English

gdynia
ww2.lo3.gdynia.pl/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=378 &Itemid=153

gdansk

gla.gfo.pl/component/content/article/128.html

Probably one in Sopot too (private) but can't remember its name just now.
delphiandomine 85 | 18,261
27 Apr 2011 #22
So, is there any school in the Tri-City area that you can honestly recommend or are you basically telling me to give up on English teaching in the Tri-City area?

It's not a great career path for a couple - the hours are often unsociable. For all the experience and qualifications that your husband has, he'll still be seen as a "year 1" newbie with absolutely no clout whatsoever.

State teaching just isn't worth thinking about as a non-Polish national as you'll enter at the lowest level irrespective of UK experience/position. Poland doesn't have anything similar to the UK system - rather teachers are at a certain "level" - and all new teachers in Poland will enter at the lowest level.

My only advice would be to try and find a university job. But the vast majority of these go to people "in the know".
scottie1113 7 | 898
27 Apr 2011 #23
Well, you certainly won't starve to death working for either English Unlimited or ELS-Bell. But you won't be looking at taking home anything more than 3,000zl per month (i.e. £600). Expect to pay at least 1,500zl for a liveable two-bed flat near the city centre. Even if you supplement the income with some private lessons, it's not going to be a good lifestyle, or even an easy one, unless you both work full time teaching EFL.

This is fairly accurate. I work for Bell and take home about 3500zl a month, from which I pay 1400zl for a two room flat in the Old Town, plus gas, elecrticity, internet, and health insurance. I sub-let a room to a cllege student-we both like the arrrangent and have been sharing the fkat for two years. That's another 500zl a month. I also teach private lessons, and that brings in another 1200zl or so a month. So I guess I get about 5000zl nett a month, less expenses for the flat, and in June I'll get paid for a lot of overtime this year. I don't live a lavish lifestyle, but it's comfortable and I like my job and my school.

I'm only telling you this because you'll starve if you work for a public school and you should know that there are alternatives.


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