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Cost of rent for a four room apartment outskirt of Wroclaw


chiberry2000 1 | -
3 Sep 2010 #1
Hi all,

Please can someone help me, I am in desperate need to find out how much a 4 room apartment will cost outskirt of Wroclaw. My job is Wroclaw city but I know that rents are higer in d city, so will 1500 -2000 PLN be ok for 4 rooms flat/apartment. I have 3 kids incl all utilites, can some on egive me an estimate. I will be very grateful
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
5 Sep 2010 #2
Hi,

Gumtree.pl should give you a good sense of price excluding utilities, although based on my wife's family who live in Poland, you are unrealistic on your pricing. You'd be better to embrace the polish way of using all the rooms as bedrooms, or get a 3 room place and have 3 kids in one bedroom and you and your spouse in another bedroom with one room as a living room.

here are the 4 room apartments in Wroclaw on Gumtree now:

From a quick look it seems that you'd possibly get one, hell knows where, for 2000pln per month before any bills. However I'm not an expert, just sharing what I know from someone who's been scoping out moving to Poland.
jwojcie 2 | 763
5 Sep 2010 #3
Hi
Here you have sites to start:
autogielda.pl/nieruchomosci_do_wynajecia_mieszkania_4-pokojowe.ht ml
autogielda.pl/nieruchomosci_do_wynajecia_mieszkania,do_wynajecia_ mieszkanie_3-pokojowe,II0RAWMK.html

Overall it is rather not possible to have 4 room apartment for 1500-2000 all included. It is rather more like ~2000 + utilities.
Of course it depends what you mean by outskirt. If you mean something in city limits then those links above are correct. If you mean something in agglomeration limits, ie. including near towns like Olesnica, Trzebnica itp. then it is doable. But one word of warning: Wroclaw is currently terribly congested city due to big road building program. If I were you I wouldn't go for outskirts flats in next two years.
milky 13 | 1,657
5 Sep 2010 #4
It is rather more like ~2000 + utilities.

Sorry to be going on about this but to put things in context in relation to the average industrial wage in Ireland and Poland. The 2000 + in wroclow for 2 bedroom apartment on the outskirts would be 4/5 of monthly average indusrial wage, To put it into context in relation to AI wage/Rent on the outskirts of galway.cork,Belfast even Dublin i could rent three large 2 bedroom apartments for that.
jwojcie 2 | 763
6 Sep 2010 #5
Sorry to be going on about this but to put things in context...

True, that is why only recently most of Poles was looking at most of foreigners willing to move here like at total madmans. Well, times change, now they are perceived as kind of freaks only ;-) ...

Anyway, it is not the right thread for that discussion I suppose ;-)
dr_rabbit 5 | 90
6 Sep 2010 #6
Yes you're right, although unemployment is much worse in Ireland than in Polish cities at the moment as far as I understand. What I was trying to get across the original poster is that wanting to have a bedroom for themselves and each of their kids is not something which makes sense in Poland. People are much more flexible like that, so its reflected in prices.
milky 13 | 1,657
7 Sep 2010 #7
Yes you're right, although unemployment is much worse in Ireland than in Polish cities at the moment as far as I understand

yes but a person on the dole in ireland gets 3 times as much as a person in Poland working for minumum wage. You could rent a large 1 bedroom apartment in Naas now, and be on the dole Monthly rent 550 euro + monthly dole 1000 euro.(rent allowance included)

or Athlone
Monthly rent 450euro + monthly dole 1000 euro
and Poland
Monthly rent 350 euro + monthly average net industrial wage 500 euro
or
monthly rent 350euro + monthly minimum wage 320 euro
ashley10 - | 1
7 Sep 2010 #8
yes i think it can be managed easily
convex 20 | 3,978
7 Sep 2010 #9
otodom.pl has a couple as well.

yes but a person on the dole in ireland gets 3 times as much as a person in Poland working for minumum wage. You could rent a large 1 bedroom apartment in Naas now, and be on the dole Monthly rent 550 euro + monthly dole 1000 euro.(rent allowance included)

What's your point? Poles can afford it. It's a larger percentage of their income compared to Ireland. On the other hand, Poles don't like having €115,000 of household debt

herald.ie/national-news/household-debt-is-now-euro115000-for-every-family-1514983.html
so I guess all is ok in the end. Gotta pay that money back sometime you know. They also don't like trading long term stability for short term growth, quite enjoy a steadily growing GDP. Another thing that is kind of strange to them is the fact that Ireland is so rich, but there are so few jobs. How can that be? It's a very strange phenomenon. Things like, how will a vastly inflated wage market attract jobs? Maybe the wise Irish on this forum can answer these questions, Poles sure can't. Poles will continue to go on in the same idiotic fashion by which they gradually build up the economy, not buying into consumerist get rich quick credit schemes. The government are a bunch of idiots as well, clinging on to a currency they can control, and not slashing interest rates to nil. Yes, yes, yes. Poland should be much more like Ireland. European role model.
milky 13 | 1,657
7 Sep 2010 #10
nother thing that is kind of strange to them is the fact that Ireland is so rich, but there are so few jobs. How can that be?

I suppose the whole economy was a kind of Ponzei scheme called celtic tiger.
The wages in Ireland will have to serously come down by about 50% to become competetive again but what about the super-inflated mortgages that have the country took out, the future for ireland is real dark lookin.No party will bring in the cuts, will do this so the IMF will be coming soon.
mokasha 3 | 18
12 Jun 2017 #11
Merged:

Accommodation in Wroclaw - a small studio apartment for 1500-1700plz per month (including bills)



Hi,

Is it possible to get a small studio apartment for 1500-1700plz per month (including bills) in Wroclaw? something in a range of 5-7 KM from Volvo company?

Thanks
DominicB - | 2,704
12 Jun 2017 #12
@mokasha

That's a short walk from Sępolno, a very nice neighborhood. Prices are a bit higher than average there, but it is worth the money if you can walk.
mokasha 3 | 18
12 Jun 2017 #13
@DominicB

Yes walking or taking a bike is my favorite, do you know the price range there?
Atch 17 | 3,225
12 Jun 2017 #14
Google is your friend:
domiporta.pl/mieszkanie/wynajme/dolnoslaskie/wroclaw
Prices shown don't generally include bills. If you click on the ads you'll get more details. Some may mention the 'czynsz' as a separate charge. There are loads of threads about this subject elsewhere on the forum.
DominicB - | 2,704
12 Jun 2017 #15
@mokasha

All inclusive, rent, administration fees and all utilities except internet/TV/telephone will be anywhere from 1500 to 2000 PLN. The cheaper studio apartments have one big defect that can end up costing you money: they often have kitchens that are far too small to be of any practical use, so you end up eating out a lot, which is very expensive in Poland. Better to pay more for an apartment with a good, workable kitchen. Also, studio apartments in Poland are very much sought after, and therefore the price is often only a little less than a one-bedroom apartment.

Like Atch said above, the advertised prices usually do not include administration fees and utilities, so don't forget to find out what they are and include them in your calculations.
mokasha 3 | 18
12 Jun 2017 #16
@DominicB
@Atch

Thanks all
polinv
12 Jun 2017 #17
Probably not worth starting a thread so I've put it here, any opinions on Osiedle Malownicze, Marszowice, north east of Wroclaw? Specifically detached homes there. Was looking at Partynice/Oltaszyn in the Krzyki area but happened upon Os. Malownicze and look to be some nice homes there close to some greenery. Any opinions?


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