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What to buy for rent/live in Kielce (flat/apartment) - smaller and brand new or older and a bit bigger?


rmk87
12 Nov 2014 #1
My wife and I who are both Polish but currently living in Australia are hoping to buy a flat or small apartment in Kielce. Were looking to spend around 55k AUD which is a bit over 160 000 PLN. We wouldn't be taking out a bank loan but were hoping more for some long term security as we are wanting to move there in a few years times. We have family there that would be able to look after things for us and I just wanted some advice on whether to buy something smaller and brand new or something older and a bit bigger. We ideally would like to rent it out for a few years then maybe move into it or even sell it.
Monitor
12 Nov 2014 #2
Kielce is a beautiful city, but one of worse in terms of jobs. Graduates usually move to Warszawa, Kraków and even £ódź fast after getting their diploma. The prospects for the city are that it will shrink from 200 000 to 150 000 in next decades. So if you want to invest your money into apartments, then better choose other city. But if you want to simply live there in your own flat and low salaries are not a problem for you, then check for example this website:

regiodom.pl/portal/wiadomosci/analizy-raporty/ceny-mieszkan-uzywanych-w-kielcach-raport

Swietokrzyskie Province is one of the smallest surface regions. The site has to many large cities (only the capital gained the status of county borough). Therefore, Swietokrzyskie report low rate of urbanization. The economy, which only to a small extent contributes to a total national GDP is mainly based on the steel industry, metal, machine. A definite advantage is its natural Swietokrzyskie attractions - including Holy Cross Mountains.

The average apartment price per square meter on the secondary market in Kielce at the end of September 2013 totaled 4399 zł. This is the lowest value among the four cities of the eastern provinces (Bialystok, Kielce, Lublin and Rzeszów were analyzed). Over the last year the average price of housing in the checked categories rarely exceed the threshold of 5000 zł / sqm and it was most often related to large units. In the third quarter of this year only 5-room flats exceeded this price.

As you see for 160 000PLN you can only buy studio. Perhaps 2 rooms 2nd hand apartment. Since it will be long term bad investment anyway, buy what you like. I think that 2 rooms is better than 1, but location counts too.
gurst
21 Jul 2015 #3
Should I buy a house or an apartment?
poland/house-or-apartment/
Alien
2 Sep 2022 #4
Smaller and brand new is always better than older and a bit bigger but the best is to have a new one build according to your own design.
Cargo pants
2 Sep 2022 #5
It depends where in Poland and how big the family is or plan to have a Family,pets etc.I can never see bringing up kids in a flat or having pets in a flat,no matter how big the flat is.Schools,hospital,shopping etc all to be considered and of course the financial part.We chose our house for that and the beach which my family loves near by in 10 mins.
amiga500
2 Sep 2022 #6
We chose our house for that and the beach which my family loves near by in 10 mins.

if you like your aussie lamb, you should visit australia, house by the beach is what we are famous for. agree on apartments, F that, would rather live 20-40min from warsaw or wherever by the forest in a house than in the CBD in an expensive apartment. (pref near a train station so could read a book whilst commuting instead of driving.)
Alien
3 Sep 2022 #7
In Poland, people build large, beautiful houses in a remote area where there is no infrastructure and you have to travel everywhere by car. This is not good at all, especially for families with children.
jon357
3 Sep 2022 #8
large, beautiful

The large bit is true.

you have to travel everywhere by car. This is not good at all

Very often with no planning permission when they start (sorted afterwards with cash under the table) and in poor architectural taste. Spoiling the countryside.
Alien
3 Sep 2022 #9
@jon357
The Gargamel-style chateaux were typical of the 90s. The present-day chalets are even pretty.
jon357
3 Sep 2022 #10
I don't find them such. I know what you mean about the 90s stuff however a lot of what's built today is bungaloid boxes.

And the age of plastic roofing is still alive and well. There ofte doesn't seem to be any attempt to match neighbouring buildings or the surroundings. Plenty of suburban style buildings in rural or semi-rural locations and villages allowed to sprawl outwards without any sort of green belt.
pawian
6 Nov 2022 #11
Smaller and brand new is always better than older and a bit bigger

Hmmm, people who live in old tenement houses in old towns of various big cities might disagree... :):) Their apartments are old but big and high.





Alien
6 Nov 2022 #12
@pawian
Such restored houses in the old city center cost millions.
pawian
6 Nov 2022 #13
cost millions.

I thought we talk about size and age, not money. :):)
Alien
6 Nov 2022 #14
@pawian
New houses wouldn't be such narrow and they would be brand new. Restored is "only" restored.
pawian
6 Nov 2022 #15
New houses

Yes, now I see it, too. :)
ProblemSolver
9 Feb 2023 #16
@amiga500
It doesn't matter how big the house is, everyone ends up in the same room anyway...
Alien
9 Feb 2023 #17
everyone ends up in the same room

...yes, that solves the problems.


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