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Protect Andrei Poczobut (a journalist) against prosecution by the Belarusian dictatorship


Novichok 4 | 8,012
2 Oct 2021 #31
So contact the court. PF isn't a court.

It's not the court but it is a reporter.
Journalistic integrity demands full disclosure of relevant facts before editorializing. One of these relevant facts is what is alleged he did. - verbatim and according to the indictment.

Down with Lukashenka!

There is no such action. It's a bullsh*it weasel term that can mean anything.
President can only be criticized, un-elected, impeached, or assassinated. These are action words, dear English teacher. "Down" is not.
So which one would you want me to shout in public over there?
jon357 74 | 22,043
3 Oct 2021 #32
Journalistic integrity demands full disclosure of relevant facts before editorializing

No it doesn't.
amiga500 4 | 1,541
3 Oct 2021 #33
youtu.be/VwcKwGS7OSQ

@jon357 youtube.com/watch?v=n-mq0uJ7rlM
jon357 74 | 22,043
3 Oct 2021 #34
youtube.com/watch?v=XGhnE53PVzk

Watching what's going on in Belarus is like watching history repeat itself. And that's never a good thing.
Novichok 4 | 8,012
3 Oct 2021 #35
No it doesn't.

Yes, it does. If I say that X is a homophobe, you have every right to ask, what did he say, because "X is a homophobe" is a conclusion, not the underlying fact. Go to law school before talking nonsense.

So I am asking what did he do?
Novichok 4 | 8,012
3 Oct 2021 #36
From prisoners.spring96.org/en/person/andrei-paczobut

Andrzej Poczobut - journalist
Date of birth: 16 April 1973
Date of detention: 25 March 2021
Charges indicted:
Art. 130 of the Criminal Code - Incitement to hatred
Prison: Pre-trial detention center No. 8

Now, where did I read that "incitement to hatred"? Hmm... Oh, yeah, it was about a German law in a democratic Germany - God's model of what a country should be.

Still not what he said, though...but I will find out if it takes a trip to the "Belarusian dictatorship".

In another case...

Anzhalika Borys was arrested this week. The next day, she was charged with violation of the order of holding mass events and sentenced to 15 days of administrative arrest.

I guess the "Belarusian dictatorship" figured out that they can commit such heinous acts after the Brits and the kangaroo Gestapo arrested their subject for "holding mass events" to protest lockdowns. And without a permit!!! Yes, I know, that was different.
pawian 224 | 24,433
8 Feb 2023 #37
Poczobut, the Polish minority activist and journalist, was just sentenced to 8 years in prison by Lukashenka regime. .
tvpworld.com/66115996/poczobut-sentenced-to-eight-years-in-prison

The Belarusian court accused the Polish minority activist of illegally organizing Polish minority events, collecting information on behalf of international organizations, calling for sanctions against Belarus, and glorifying the Polish wartime Home Army.

The Polish gov has no means to effectively press on Belarus regime to free him.
Paulina 16 | 4,373
8 Feb 2023 #38
Jesus... 8 years in a Belarusian maximum-security prison... for a journalist...🤐 🤬

One Belarusian journalist with Polish roots who was also getting punished by Lukashenko's regime was taking part in our Polish-Russian internet discussions and I remember him writing about Poczobut - he was in and out of prison even at that time... Poor man... and brave. In his place I would leave Belarus long ago. It doesn't look like there's a future for people with Polish roots there... I'm afraid that as long as Putin is in power in RuSSia, Lukashenko will be in power in Belarus... All those good people are fighting a losing battle, imho... :(

The Polish gov has no means to effectively press on Belarus regime to free him.

It would be nice if the EU didn't at least help the Belarusian regime to make money :(:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/andrzej-poczobut-skazany-latuszka-dostal-wyrok-za-bycie-polakiem-6864339668134720a
pawian 224 | 24,433
8 Feb 2023 #39
. and brave.

Yes, he refused to plead for mercy to Lukashenka.

In his place I would leave Belarus long ago

He refused to do it as a brave and patriotic man. Similarly, most Solidarity anticommunist activists prefered to stay in communist Poland and continue their fight against the regime, even though they are persecuted.
Paulina 16 | 4,373
8 Feb 2023 #40
@pawian, I guess you're right... I must admit it's hard for me to understand how one can be patriotic about that strange, kolhoz-like country... But I didn't grew up there, so... And maybe he has a different Belarus in his heart... I do hope that he'll get his justice one day... 😢 ✊
pawian 224 | 24,433
8 Feb 2023 #41
I do hope that he'll get his justice one day..

We need to pray for him.

it's hard for me to understand how one can be patriotic about that strange, kolhoz-like country.

Like those Solidarity activists - they hoped for better tomorrow and didn`t give up. And were successful in the end. That is Polishness.
Paulina 16 | 4,373
8 Feb 2023 #42
We need to pray for him.

Yes... I wish something more than praying could be done about this though.

That is Polishness.

I wouldn't say it's uniquely Polish... Navalny got 9 years...

PussyRiot
pawian 224 | 24,433
8 Feb 2023 #43
I wish something more than praying could be done about this though.

But as it is out of our reach to free him, only prayers are left to help.

Navalny got 9 years...

But he isn`t Polish, while Poczbut is.
Alien 20 | 5,011
8 Feb 2023 #44
Poczbut

....isn't Polish, Poczobut is Polish.🙂
pawian 224 | 24,433
8 Feb 2023 #45
Poczobut

Thanks, it is a good idea to correct each other`s typos. We are perfectionists! :):):)
Paulina 16 | 4,373
9 Feb 2023 #46
The Polish Parliament condemned sentencing Poczobut and minister Kamiński announced closure of Polish-Belarusian border crossing in Bobrowniki. There are also going to be further names added on the sanctions list of people persecuting Poles in Belarus:

wiadomosci.wp.pl/decyzja-ws-przejscia-granicznego-zawieszone-do-odwolania-6864635835665280a

Some backround in those articles:

france24.com/en/live-news/20230208-minsk-jails-polish-belarusian-reporter-for-eight-years

"Belarus witnessed a historic protest movement denouncing the controversial 2020 re-election of Lukashenko, who has been in power for nearly 30 years.

Backed by Russian leader Vladimir Putin, Lukashenko unleashed a massive crackdown, throwing critics in prison or forcing them into exile.

More than 30 Belarusian journalists are currently in jail in the post-Soviet country."

notesfrompoland.com/2023/02/08/belarus-sentences-polish-minority-leader-and-journalist-to-eight-years-in-prison/

"Poczobut was detained, along with three other Polish minority leaders, including Andżelika Borys, the head of the Union of Poles in Belarus (ZPB), in March 2021. Their arrests came as part of a wider clampdown on Belarus's large ethnic Polish community after Poland supported the Belarusian opposition in the aftermath of the disputed presidential elections."

themoscowtimes.com/2023/02/08/polish-belarusian-journalist-jailed-for-8-years-in-belarus-a80177

'"I do not have any illusions, I will take the sentence calmly and with a calm conscience go to prison," he said in a letter published by his newspaper ahead of the verdict.'

May the judge's name that sentenced him hang in the Hall of Shame:

Dmitry Bubenchik

While Poczobut's name will hang in the Hall of Glory:

hero
pawian 224 | 24,433
9 Feb 2023 #47
May the judge's name that sentenced him hang in the Hall of Shame:
Dmitry Bubenchik

The change of the system in Belarus one day might entail a crackdown on those regime stooges who harm people today. And it can be quite violent.
Alien 20 | 5,011
10 Feb 2023 #48
We are perfectionists! :

Sure, there must be order, the famous German " Ordnung muss sein".
pawian 224 | 24,433
26 Mar 2024 #49
Important anniversary. Let`s not forget about Andrzej Poczobut, the political prisoner in Belarus.

On March 25, 2021, Andrzej Poczobut, an activist of the Union of Poles in Belarus and a journalist cooperating with "Gazeta Wyborcza", was arrested in Grodno after a search of his apartment. Held in subsequent detention centers, he waited almost two years for a fabricated trial.

On January 16, 2023, the first trial against Poczobut took place. Less than a month later - on February 8 - the verdict was announced. Andrzej Poczobut was sentenced to 8 years in a penal colony with a strict regime for allegedly "incitement to national and religious hatred" and the equally absurd charge of "rehabilitation of Nazism". The journalist was also included on a special list of people "involved in terrorist activities", which results in harsher treatment in prison.






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