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Poland, Germany, France, Spain or Greece?

15 Jan 2019 #1
Ok so these are my favorite lands in Europe. Thing is I only know English and some Spanish. I'm a speaker of a Slavic language so I understand some spoken Polish but the written one's very hard. Greek is even harder but the rents are low. Spain has too high rents for the wages. I grew up watching German TV and like Bavaria. But learning German takes time. On the other hand many Spaniards, Greeks not to mention Poles go to Germany.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
15 Jan 2019 #2
Living and working in a country means unconditionally, irrefutably, knowing the language of that country in order to communicate with her inhabitants!
English won't help too much in Poland, Spanish not at all. When I lived and worked in Spain for several months, without Spanish, I couldn't have survived, even for a day!

English proved of even more limited usefulness than in Poland. Germany? Without a serious working knowledge of the local language, one can be literally bamboozled to death, especially in the big towns, where you start to speak in your basic English, at their suave insistence of course, only to learn that they perhaps miscommunicated your message into German, presuming you didn't understand, thus can merrily put one over on you so that YOU seem the fool and not they: In the best case scenario,

they actually DIDN'T understand your English, but typically were just too damned arrogant to admit it:-)
Aquarian - | 21
16 Jan 2019 #3
France, Spain & Greece ??

gone case bro !
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,583
16 Jan 2019 #4
You just shouldn't mumble but speak loud and clear!

Lyzko 25 | 7,139
16 Jan 2019 #5
Nice one, B.B. Two points:-)
Crow 139 | 8,579
8 Nov 2019 #6
No sh** with Poland. Just heard that Poland severely punished French energy company Anzi to pay 40,3 mil eur because company failed to complete documentation for Nord stream 2.

See, Poland do have backbone.

source, of course > b92/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2019&mm=11&dd=08&nav_id=1614678
OP Kiko875
13 Nov 2019 #7
Ok France and Greece are out. Poland as well as most cities are drab and ugly. Apart from Krakow and Torun I don't find Warsaw a match for Rome, Athens or even Sofia. And Tricity is a far cry from beautiful Rimini or say Varna. Too bad as I like other aspects of Polish culture and the women. But most cities look drab (it's the same in most of Central Europe save for Hungary where cities are very colorful).
Miloslaw 7 | 3,257
13 Nov 2019 #8
Poland as well as most cities are drab and ugly

Oh dear, another troll..... you obviously have never been to Poland....

Rome and Athens?
Have you ever been to the godforsaken suburbs of those cities?
And as for Sofia...... what a $hithole that is.....
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
13 Nov 2019 #9
Krakow is still considered by many to be the crowning jewel among Polish cities. Although I've not yet been,
had I had more time way back during my first visit to Poland, I'd have done much better to have seen the
Sukiennica, Wawel and the Old Town, than Szczecin:-)
Miloslaw 7 | 3,257
13 Nov 2019 #10
Krakow is still considered by many to be the crowning jewel among Polish cities.

It is.
But it is extremely "touristy" now, can be relatively expensive and smog ridden in winter.
But yes, it is a lovely city which you should find the time to visit.
I am sure you would love the old Jewish quarter.Very nice.
I recommend late spring or early summer.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
13 Nov 2019 #11
Touristy probably for a very good reason; there's a lot of cultural richness to experience which is therefore good for the Polish tourist trade! Lord only knows it needs it, in addition to a good stiff dose of some skillful public relations:-)
cms neuf - | 1,578
14 Nov 2019 #12
I wouldn't say Sofia is a hole - I visited a few times for work and really liked it. In terms of beauty however it is certainly no better than Krakow - both are similar, an interesting Centre full of quirky cafes and interesting sites but ringed by some horrible commie era housing.
OP Kiko875
14 Nov 2019 #13
^I said it's better than Warsaw, which is not hard as Warsaw was destroyed completely and rebuilt haphazardly. Comparing capital with capital. ;) I think Gorzow Wlkp. is a hidden star as it looks as colourful as a Balkan city. Same for Lublin - it has an Eastern-looking castle and is very very green. Krakow is great as well. Unfortunately places like Katowice, Łódz, and even Tricity look uninspiring. I expect at least Sopot to be WOW but I prefer Sozopol.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
14 Nov 2019 #14
Although I've yet to visit the capital, pictures of the renowned Arts & Sciences Building in nonetheless impressive to look at, no?
Ziemowit 13 | 4,063
14 Nov 2019 #15
What building precisely do you have in mind!?
jon357 63 | 15,214
14 Nov 2019 #16
I suspect he means PKiN.

A building (or group of buildings) that always seems better inside than outside.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
14 Nov 2019 #17
Yes, that's the one!
Thanks, jon:-)
17 Nov 2019 #18
OK, Spain is too hot in summer, France and Germany have been overtaken by Muslims. That leaves the choice to Greece and Poland only. And at that, I'd prefer Athens and Warsawa, Lublin, Rzeszow and Ruse, Varna and Veliko Tarnovo in Bulgaria.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
17 Nov 2019 #19
France and Germany have been overtaken by Muslims.

No. They were invited by the virtue signalling morons who rule France and Germany. So they came to pray and do nothing.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
17 Nov 2019 #20
Muslims have been integrated into German society for a while now, if not always successfully. If you're referring to the Turks, I
couldn't disagree more - look at Cem Ozdemir, long-term Turkish-German parliamentarian et al if you need proof. The Syrians are a different story though, I'll admit, and it's going to be an uphill battle, that's for sure.
17 Nov 2019 #21
Whatever the reason, we all remember certain bombings. Btw after living in places that were awful for me and it turned out there's a method that proves they would be unsuitable for me, I will follow that system of finding suitable places for living, working and traveling for vacation. I already know Athens and many places in Greece are positive one, but perhaps it's too hot in summer and better for vacations. For Poland, it's mostly the Southeastern parts - Lubielske and Podkarpackie, so not sure if there are jos there but I like the area. Further east Lvov is good but not in the EU and poor economy but further south a good place would be Bucharest. Same goes for Rousse (aka Ruse) and Veliko Tarnovo in Bulgaria. I tell you, this system totally works, it's proven in my case.

Zamosc, Rzeszow, Przemysl, and Chelm look like the best ones for me. Good luck finding a job there though!

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