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Poland, Germany, France, Spain or Greece?

15 Jan 2019 #1
Ok so these are my favorite lands in Europe. Thing is I only know English and some Spanish. I'm a speaker of a Slavic language so I understand some spoken Polish but the written one's very hard. Greek is even harder but the rents are low. Spain has too high rents for the wages. I grew up watching German TV and like Bavaria. But learning German takes time. On the other hand many Spaniards, Greeks not to mention Poles go to Germany.
Lyzko 23 | 6,629
15 Jan 2019 #2
Living and working in a country means unconditionally, irrefutably, knowing the language of that country in order to communicate with her inhabitants!
English won't help too much in Poland, Spanish not at all. When I lived and worked in Spain for several months, without Spanish, I couldn't have survived, even for a day!

English proved of even more limited usefulness than in Poland. Germany? Without a serious working knowledge of the local language, one can be literally bamboozled to death, especially in the big towns, where you start to speak in your basic English, at their suave insistence of course, only to learn that they perhaps miscommunicated your message into German, presuming you didn't understand, thus can merrily put one over on you so that YOU seem the fool and not they: In the best case scenario,

they actually DIDN'T understand your English, but typically were just too damned arrogant to admit it:-)
Aquarian - | 21
16 Jan 2019 #3
France, Spain & Greece ??

gone case bro !
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,790
16 Jan 2019 #4
You just shouldn't mumble but speak loud and clear!

Lyzko 23 | 6,629
16 Jan 2019 #5
Nice one, B.B. Two points:-)
Crow 137 | 7,710
8 Nov 2019 #6
No sh** with Poland. Just heard that Poland severely punished French energy company Anzi to pay 40,3 mil eur because company failed to complete documentation for Nord stream 2.

See, Poland do have backbone.

source, of course > b92/biz/vesti/svet.php?yyyy=2019&mm=11&dd=08&nav_id=1614678
OP Kiko875
21 hrs ago #7
Ok France and Greece are out. Poland as well as most cities are drab and ugly. Apart from Krakow and Torun I don't find Warsaw a match for Rome, Athens or even Sofia. And Tricity is a far cry from beautiful Rimini or say Varna. Too bad as I like other aspects of Polish culture and the women. But most cities look drab (it's the same in most of Central Europe save for Hungary where cities are very colorful).
Miloslaw 6 | 2,355
19 hrs ago #8
Poland as well as most cities are drab and ugly

Oh dear, another troll..... you obviously have never been to Poland....

Rome and Athens?
Have you ever been to the godforsaken suburbs of those cities?
And as for Sofia...... what a $hithole that is.....
Lyzko 23 | 6,629
19 hrs ago #9
Krakow is still considered by many to be the crowning jewel among Polish cities. Although I've not yet been,
had I had more time way back during my first visit to Poland, I'd have done much better to have seen the
Sukiennica, Wawel and the Old Town, than Szczecin:-)
Miloslaw 6 | 2,355
19 hrs ago #10
Krakow is still considered by many to be the crowning jewel among Polish cities.

It is.
But it is extremely "touristy" now, can be relatively expensive and smog ridden in winter.
But yes, it is a lovely city which you should find the time to visit.
I am sure you would love the old Jewish quarter.Very nice.
I recommend late spring or early summer.
Lyzko 23 | 6,629
19 hrs ago #11
Touristy probably for a very good reason; there's a lot of cultural richness to experience which is therefore good for the Polish tourist trade! Lord only knows it needs it, in addition to a good stiff dose of some skillful public relations:-)
cms neuf - | 987
9 hrs ago #12
I wouldn't say Sofia is a hole - I visited a few times for work and really liked it. In terms of beauty however it is certainly no better than Krakow - both are similar, an interesting Centre full of quirky cafes and interesting sites but ringed by some horrible commie era housing.
OP Kiko875
4 hrs ago #13
^I said it's better than Warsaw, which is not hard as Warsaw was destroyed completely and rebuilt haphazardly. Comparing capital with capital. ;) I think Gorzow Wlkp. is a hidden star as it looks as colourful as a Balkan city. Same for Lublin - it has an Eastern-looking castle and is very very green. Krakow is great as well. Unfortunately places like Katowice, Łódz, and even Tricity look uninspiring. I expect at least Sopot to be WOW but I prefer Sozopol.

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