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How much western Europe and Vatican influenced Communist International ?


Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Nov 2018 #1
We know that Germany prepared Lenin for the diversion. But, what we know of ideas and people behind that project?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,341
13 Nov 2018 #2
We know that Germany prepared Lenin for the diversion.

We know this? How did we do that?
OP Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Nov 2018 #3
Lenin was in Switzerland in Z├╝rich and came to Sassnitz in Germany. There he got help from official Germany. Just before February revolution began, German government organized in total 32 diverzants (Russian citizens) to travel in a`sealed` train wagon through German territory, among them Lenin and his wife. The group then traveled by ferry to Trelleborg in Sweden, and from there to the Haparanda-Tornio border crossing and then to Helsinki before taking the final train to Petrograd.

These are known facts from history. That`s how started revolution.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,341
13 Nov 2018 #4
There he got help from official Germany.

Yeah..he got a transport, that I remember from history class to. But that isn't the same as "preparing for diversion", isn't it?
OP Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Nov 2018 #5
Transport?

You now call it a `transport`? Lenin was transported?

Sifilis, when happen, is then also transported?
OP Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Nov 2018 #7
And Switzerland?
Ziemowit 13 | 4,489
13 Nov 2018 #8
We know that Germany prepared Lenin for the diversion

Apparently, Germany did send Lenin to Russia in the hope that he may start a revolt and weaken Russia with which Germany was in war because Gavrilo Princip assasined the Austrian prince Ferdinand in Sarajevo. Germany could not envisage that as a result of the war she would have lost the Posen province, Pommern and Upper Silesia to the newly established Polsh state.
OP Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Feb 2021 #9
Now would be interesting in Poland how frictions between Vatican and Racowie culminate and closing to the historical resolve.

Conflict between Racowie and Rome started due to same reasons Protestantism appeared, because of Papal dictate. Once Catholic Serbian Imperial Nemanjic dynasty (ancestral house of Polish Jadwiga) turned to Orthodoxy and formed independent Serbian state, in modern sense of the word, more then 800 years ago. Conflict later continued to the level of strategic Rome`s-Germanic partnership in attacks on Serbian realm what culminated in murderous genocide of more then 1.000.000 of Serbs during WWII in Nazi death camps formed by Independent State of Croatia sponsored by Vatican and Germany. Those were only death camps in Europe formed by non-German faction, where even death camps for children existed what even Germans didn`t try. Truly those were hybrid camps for killing and forcible conversion to Catholicism of little children (``Lebensborn``). While Vatican refuse to apologize, Serbs pressing for the truth about their victims and conflict continues.

Besides internal processes, ALL what Poland makes Poland came with influences of Rome and Serbs. Actually, even ultra-right Polish Catholics preserved prefect relations with Serbian Orthodox and even during NATO bombings, back in 1999, in a Parliament of Poland (Jan Lopuzansky) they sided with Serbs and criticized NATO. We are about to see how things stand in these days of a final resolve. Do Racowie and Poland still ride together, the question is now.

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MarieAntoinette 1 | 65
13 Feb 2021 #10
That`s how started revolution.

Revolutions never "start".
They are always planned long time before, and extremely organised.
OP Crow 150 | 9,552
13 Feb 2021 #11
Well said. Thanks.


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