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USA tried to steal German vaccine against Corona Virus


Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #1
News emerge now, that Trump tried to get the german company CureVac.

CureVac is a german bio tec company that works on a vaccine against COVID-19 and has achieved great sucess.

At march 3rd the american CEO of CureVac Daniel Menichella met with trump

dd

Trump offered a huge amount of money to get the company exclusive america only, so only USA would have acess to the Vaccine.

The German government stepped up and stopped this. Menichella was fired few days ago as CEO and the founder of CureVac Ingmar Hoerr takes back his former seat as CEO.

Today CureVac said, there wont be a deal with USA.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #2
Trump offered a huge amount of money to get the company

If that's the case, why did you throw that "steal" into the thread title?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #3
so only USA would have acess to the Vaccine.

That is so "Trumpish"......
Miloslaw 7 | 3,106
15 Mar 2020 #4
Today CureVac said, there wont be a deal with USA

It does not matter.
There are companies all over the world that think they have found a cure but none of them will be available until next year.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #5
...and by that time we will be dying from a new Hongkongvirus.
Joker 1 | 1,409
15 Mar 2020 #6
hy did you throw that "steal" into the thread title?

And greedy as the Germans are, its very surprising they didn't jump all over that offer.
jon357 63 | 15,061
15 Mar 2020 #7
That is so "Trumpish"......

They normally just spy and steal tech developments; they've done that to the UK too, as well as to Germany and probably others.

none of them will be available until next year.

Takes a long time unfortunately.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #8
And greedy as the Germans are, its very surprising they didn't jump all over that offer.

It might actually really have to do something with Trump and what he said....it's just unethical. Any scientist involved in such a deal would be put on a global pillory!

It seems Germans are not that greedy!

Takes a long time unfortunately.

CureVac hopes to start with human testing in June/July...I've read...
Miloslaw 7 | 3,106
15 Mar 2020 #9
So available next year then......
jon357 63 | 15,061
15 Mar 2020 #10
CureVac hopes to start with human testing in June/July...I've read...

Let's hope it works.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #11
I'm totally sure there will be a cure and a vaccine, if not by CureVac, then made by someone else....but I'm also sure this mess will stay with us at least a whole year.

I'ts better to prepare mentally for that time!
Miloslaw 7 | 3,106
15 Mar 2020 #12
Let's hope it works

Utrecht University in NL and others are at the same stage.
Germany is not leading this.
When something as global as this effects the global economy, money talks and cures will be found relatively quickly.
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #13
Would you be angry if it would be a german firm?

You need to get a grip on your hate for Germany, Milo! It get's tiresome!
OP Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #14
Trump wanted a German Investment and steal it from Germany. It is a good thing, that this was Made public. This vaccine is for evryone, Not Just americans
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #15
to do something with Trump and what he said....it's just unethical.

Charge: "something". Verdict: unethical. Comment: typical weasel bs. Like that "steal" in the title.
Do you guys have problems comprehending English words?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #16
Yes, wanting a cure for a global disease with potentially millions of victims only to yourself is UNETHICAL!!!!

Somehow I'm not surprised that you don't understand that....

What does Trump want's to do with it? Only USians get cured? And others can look on or pay lotsa Dollars if they want to live too? WHAT?
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #17
potentially millions of victims only to yourself is UNETHICAL!!!!

Then say it! Better yet, quote him. That's what adults do before passing judgement.
What exactly did Trump say, little boy? Or was it only your conclusion that we would keep that vaccine away from the rest of the world?
Bratwurst Boy 6 | 10,527
15 Mar 2020 #18
Why should he make such an offer anyhow?

He is a dumb arse with only so much knowledge of science like a fruitfly! He probably thought it something cool to make money from....

With supporting such a president you really have no leg to stand on to keep on harping endlessly about Merkel!

GAH!

*takes helmet and leaves disgusted*
OP Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #19
@Rich Mazur

CureVac is partly state sponsored and its achievement comes from German tax money. Trump wanted it for US only. Germans would have paid and developed it but not get it then. He wanted it US only.
Ziemowit 13 | 3,915
15 Mar 2020 #20
The German government stepped up and stopped this.

So Bundeskanzlerin Merkel is not so dumb as you origianlly thought ...

He probably thought it something cool to make money from....

This is it. Remember that Donaldus Magnus is a businessman first and a President later
jon357 63 | 15,061
15 Mar 2020 #21
Utrecht University in NL and others are at the same stage.
Germany is not leading this.

There's also significant developments in Australia and Israel.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #22
Trump wanted it for US only.

I want proof that this was his objective.
If you can supply it, that does not make him a thief.
Also, did you buy any drug developed in the US?
OP Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #23
@Rich Mazur

Here you can read it:

n-tv.de/politik/CureVac-lehnt-Exklusivvertrag-mit-USA-ab-article21643024.html

CureVac speaker just said there will be no deal with USA. We want keep it in Germany and provide it for all people, not exclsuive to one region.

He also said they want keep the jobs in Germany.

The objective was to get it exclusive for USA, which means a med developed in Germany would not be avaivable for Germans, only for americans. Thats what exclusive means.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #24
No, it does not. Exclusive rights is what every author has and still have his books published and available all over the world.
In this case, I still don't have any proof that if the US bought the rights to that vaccine, the US would deny it to non-Americans.

Plus, that "steal" really annoys me.
Joker 1 | 1,409
15 Mar 2020 #25
I still don't have any proof that if the US bought the rights to that vaccine,

I smell something fishy like "fake news".

His link from Ntv is ..... began as a business development project at Time-Warner International a parent company of CNN

Not a word about this in the USA. I call it for what it is. German Propaganda!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #26
This is what pis*es me off about the Germans here...Almost like with theLyzko, can't get them to say anything that makes sense. Like with this vaccine...

So which one was is it? Did the US try to "steal" or buy?
OP Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #27
@Joker

No German propaganda, the american CureVac CEO got fired for his meeting with Trump. **** USA, im glad officials here reacted and stopped this theft of german property.

Here in english

afp.com/en/news/15/us-germany-battle-virus-vaccine-surpremacy-doc-1pw4l02

The United States and Germany are vying to produce an exclusive vaccine against the coronavirus which is being developed in a German laboratory, Die Welt daily reported Saturday

According to the paper, US President Donald Trump is trying to poach German scientists working on an experimental vaccine against a global health threat that has now killed some 5,500 people with a view to having an exclusive licence rolled out in the United States.

Such a vaccine would be "only for the United States," a source close to the German government told Die Welt, though Berlin would reportedly is looking to make offers of its own to biotech firm CureVac, based in the German state of Thuringia.

The lab is currently working in tandem with the Paul-Ehrlich Institute, linked to the German ministry of health.

It specialises in vaccine research.

"The German government is very interested in having the development of vaccines and active substances against the novel coronavirus undertaken in Germany and Europe," a health ministry spokesman told Die Welt, adding that the government was in "intensive" talks with CureVac.

As CureVac CEO, Daniel Menichella found himself invited on March 2 to the White House to meet with Trump, his vice-president Mike Pence and representatives of pharma companies working on how to respond to the pandemic, the company revealed on its website without indicating if financial offers had been put on the table.

"We are very confident that we will be able to develop a potent vaccine candidate within a few months," CureVac quoted Menichella -- who has since given way to founder and incoming CEO Ingmar Hoerr -- as saying following his Washington visit.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,752
15 Mar 2020 #28
Such a vaccine would be "only for the United States," a source close to the German government told Die Welt,

Tell me that you are just kidding...That is the proof that the US would keep it away from the rest of the world because some unnamed "source" said so?

Please, don't treat the rest of us here like morons or retarded kids. We are neither.
Joker 1 | 1,409
15 Mar 2020 #29
There is more to the story that meets the eye....

Responding to the report, a U.S. official said: "This story is wildly overplayed. The U.S. government has spoken with many (more than 25) companies that claim they can help with a vaccine. Most of these companies already received seed funding from U.S. investors."

He's only giving one side of the story. If it were really true, dont you think the Dems would have weaponized it already and it would be all over the news.

Welt am Sonntag quoted an unidentifiedGerman government source as saying Trump was trying to secure the scientists'

No proof at all, like I said before. German Propaganda, nice try! LOLOLOL

msn.com/en-us/news/world/germany-tries-to-stop-us-poaching-german-firm-seeking-coronavirus-vaccine/ar-BB11dfdv
OP Weimarer 10 | 620
15 Mar 2020 #30
@Rich Mazur
Then explain why the Guy who met with Trump at March 2nd was fired few days later without explanation and why CureVac today issued an announcement to rebuff any deal with USA?


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