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Should Poland and Russia form Slaveno-Christian military alliance - could it be ?


Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #1
What you think?
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,049
24 Apr 2017 #2
No! Poland should not take any side. She should be neither pro Russian nor pro Western. Poland should be neutral and cooperate with both of those sides on equal grounds. If there was a time for Poland creating a military/economic union she should do it with like minded countries.
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #3
Why pro-Russian if take part in Slaveno-Christian military alliance with Russia? Why not pro-Polish? I mean, that would be even purpose of Poland`s eventual decision to form Slaveno-Christian military alliance with Russia (and not only with Russia). Not to give up its independence but to strengthen it, thru defense on common ground, in situation of obvious anti-Slavic and anti-Christian development in Europe.
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,049
24 Apr 2017 #4
military alliance with Russia

Crow. Military alliance with Russia would mean that we are going anti-USA. That would be "taking side" and it's not what being neutral means. Poland should take an ADVANTAGE of her geopolitical place in Europe. Poland is VERY important to both East and West. It took a whole world war to understand that. We don't have to be on any side. Being neutral in Rus-Usa political and military madness is exactly pro-Polish.
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,049
24 Apr 2017 #5
anti-Slavic and anti-Christian development in Europe.

Poland acting in her own interest doesn't mean it has to be pro-Slavic. We Poles are Poles first. Then Slavic.
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #6
It would be best that is Poland capable to form Intermarium and organize itself with countries that share common interest on Baltic-Balkan Danubian line, neutral on global military alliances. But, Poland isn`t capable to do it, to form Intermarium. Among else, thanks to primate of EU, USA and NATO interest over Polish interest. In the meanwhile situation for Poland worsening. It means that Poland losing maneuverable space if wants to protect itself. Hard choices needs to be made. Meaning, defense of Polish Slavic and Christian identity. See, Russia could prove to be valuable ally in that sense. Could. Eventually. I hope, not only Russia
NoToForeigners 10 | 1,049
24 Apr 2017 #7
See, Russia could prove to be valuable ally in that sense

...as could the USA. Till now Russia has proven to be a very harsh occupant that cares only about herself in PRL times and USA proven to be global liars and invaders that can and will kill for influence.

So to paraphrase Andrzej Sapkowski's words on this one:
"If this was my only choice i'd rather not choose at all."
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #8
[Moved from]: ... Poland vs Europe - an article; An interview with Paolo Morawski & Matteo Tacconi

So, essentially, it seams that Poland do resist to assimilation by global corporate interests. I understood it well.

Fragment from the article

Kaczynski and the PiS, on the contrary, would prefer a union of countries in which the collective, federative aspect is decidedly inferior to the national dimension. The centrist-liberal vision is linked to foreign countries; Kaczynski and the PiS' vision is greatly focused on the country, on the subject of sovereignty; he would like a Europe that is firstly one of nations.

source:
Kaczynski's Poland vs Europe
An interview with Paolo Morawski, Matteo Tacconi / 24 April 2017
visegradinsight.eu/kaczynskis-poland-vs-europe/
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #9
We Poles are Poles first. Then Slavic.

First or second, its Slavic.

...as could the USA.

Not even theoretical chance for USA to understand Slavic interest. On the contrary. Unfortunately.
Ironside 50 | 10,940
24 Apr 2017 #10
Crow stop returning with the same old goods you're peddling here while you pretend it to be something new.
Russia is primitive in this way, doesn't know and doesn't understand alliance with Poland. Her policy is a such that Russia would rather shoot herself in the foot out of spite then gave in an inch to Poland even on a trifle issue. F... those commie KGB scum.

NO Crow, cause those ×ĺęčńň ruling Russia know no better.

and will kill for influence.

Go back to you lost childhood and stay in the la la land. Geez What a HS you spew. Hard to bear it.
Harry
24 Apr 2017 #11
What you think?

I think you need to read a little about Polish history and speak to some Polish people.
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
24 Apr 2017 #12
Multi-Polar world suits Poland rather then Uni-Polar world. Christian values, Slavic heritage, concept of sovereignty, too. See, all that directly confront western Europe and USA and align Poland with China, Serbia, Japan, Russia, Vatican, Basil, India and rest of the free world in all its diversity and in different level of development. Actually, USA itself started to align itself with free world but, you know, its not easy.

Crow stop returning with the same old goods you're peddling here while you pretend it to be something new.

for me, white was white yesterday, same as today. I`m not moral transformer.

Russia is primitive in this way, doesn't know and doesn't understand alliance with Poland.

help them to understand. Understand nature of wild Scythians. They are brutal but they aren`t evil as Anglos.
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
27 May 2018 #13
[moved from]

Baltic was back in past pearl of Slavic (ie Sarmatian/ie Thracian) world. Belonged solely to our people. People collected amber and traders traveled to far reaches of realm of the ancients to sell it and exchange it for other goods. Pilgrimages took place from time to time and people was willing to travel even for 1000 kilometers to visit holly place such was Arkona on Rujan dedicated to Svetovid. We Serbians preserved ancient ethno songs that mixing tradition of pre-Christian and Christian era, that sing about Polish warlord (back then Ledi/Ledjani- Slavs from the `frozen land`) who travel to the southern regions for the marriage. Tribal alliances were forged when necessary. There were urban and rural centers. Cities of the wood and stone. People prospered.

bunch of Russians regularly travel from Kaliningrad to the Tri-City (Gdańsk-Sopot-Gdynia) but mostly to Sopot.

Glad to me that things tend to move in direction of normalcy.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
27 May 2018 #14
Glad to me that things tend to move in direction of normalcy.

I don't think they're after your idea of normalcy....
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
27 May 2018 #15
Why? You think that if EU continue to push Poland, official Poland can`t turn to Russia for at least normal relationship?

Or if not to Russia, then to Serbians?

I think that you underestimate and Poles and Slavs in general.

We Serbians can wait. We know mechanism of western European greed. They have that maleficarum in them. They will push and push and Poles would lose their nerves and Poland would one day escape. And when Poles lose their nerves, we Serbians will fill the gap and provide maneuverable space for Poland`s retreat. You will see.
OP Crow 146 | 9,129
22 Jul 2020 #16
Braking News

Russia via Poland arming Serbia, while Germany via flights over Italy arming Kosovo Albanians.

b92/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2020&mm=07&dd=22&nav_category=12&nav_id=1709897

pregovaraju sa nemačkim obaveštajnim službama o nabavci topova i protivoklopnih raketnih sistema za takozvanu vojsku Kosova, uz odobrenje kancelarke Angele Merkel.

translation: they negotiate for months with German secret services about providing cannons, tanks and rocket systems for so called Kosovo army, with consent of chancellor Angela Merkel.

Next fragment from the article >

Nešto se čudno dešava, svi se naoružavaju u regionu", rekao je on.

translation: Something strange happening, all in the region boosting armament, said he (Serbian President Vucic).

Think about this. Think good.

Correct me if I`m wrong but, last time when independent Poland and independent Russia coordinated was when Swedes invaded. Isn`t it?

And they now starting to coordinate again.


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