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Result of Danish Elections may be favorable to Poland


Levi 12 | 450
28 Jun 2015 #1
Last week the Danish Peoples Party won the Denmark elections.
This was a humonguous defeat for the multiculturalists in Denmark, since the party have a strong instance of defend the danish values and the danish church.

But more than that, and here comes the important part for Poland: This party is from the same group as PiS in the european parliament (European Conservatives).

In fact, this year had been a huge, incredible and pharaonic success for the european conservatives (for the despair of the socialists and communists): First was the surprising reelection of Cameron and the smashing victory of the conservative party in UK.

Then the even more surprising victory against all odds in Poland.

And now Denmark also joins the group

The tide is expected to be even stronger in the next mohths, with elections being expected to be won by conservatives in other european countries. And the Polish Parliament elections in July also having a good chance to be dominated by PiS.

The question is: Is that the final defeat of the Pro-Illegal Immigration and Anti-European values socialists?

And with this new conservative tide, will Poland assume a well deserved leadership in European Conservatives group?
Polsyr 6 | 769
28 Jun 2015 #2
Last week the Danish Peoples Party won the Denmark elections.

That is a lie. They came in second with 21.1% of votes, after the Social Democratic Party (left wing) with 26.3% of votes. Why would anyone (unless extremely stupid) post something so easy to prove wrong online?

One of many online resources:
electionresources.org/dk/folketing.php?election=2015
OP Levi 12 | 450
28 Jun 2015 #3
They were second in Popular vote but they gained parliamentary majority (coalition led by Venstre Rasmussen's).

Since there is only one major Socialist party and a lot of Right Wing parties, of course the most voted was the socialist. But Venstre Coalition (that unites the biggest Right Wing parties) will govern from now on.

They even make it easier for others to understand calling their coalition the Blue group (in contrast with the loser Red coalition led by the socialists)

It is so easy to understand parliamentarism that surprises me someone still get easily confused with it ( that you come from a presidentialist country is not an excuse ;) )

Fact is: In Denmark, the socialist government lost the majority at the parliament. Now the government is right wing and allied to Poland's Duda.
Polsyr 6 | 769
28 Jun 2015 #4
They were second in Popular vote but they gained parliamentary majority (coalition led by Venstre Rasmussen's)

A coalition is not the party alone. That is manipulating and misrepresenting facts. A lie is a lie.

presidentialist country

What country is that?
OP Levi 12 | 450
28 Jun 2015 #5
No, it is not a lie. We both know that. They were candidates and now they are govern since their coalition have majority of the parliament. That is how parliamentarism works.

So yes, it was a victory.

You just come here with you usual rant because you want to make this thread (like any other thread that is not in agreement with your personal political agenda) turn into a off topic so the admins delete or close it.

So please stop hijacking this topic. If you dont like the subject dont comment, but it is plain stupid to hijack each thread that you dont like.
Marsupial - | 886
28 Jun 2015 #6
The numbers don't matter ruling party is ruling. There was whining about this in the uk also but makes no diff. It happens here too and in fact conservative coalition is also in power in Australia, also a catholic. As to what this means for Poland? Judging by Danes in the past no one can really count on them for anything at all as far as I can see????
jon357 63 | 15,214
28 Jun 2015 #7
udging by Danes in the past no one can really count on them for anything at all as far as I can see????

On this we agree. They have a very long tradition of consensus politics there (which Poland does not) and it makes largely only superficial differences.

now they are govern since their coalition have majority of the parliament.

In Danish politics there are quite a lot of variables - and it isn't an especially comfortable coalition, even for them.

I doubt it has any impact on the Polish elections, either negative (pro-PiS/Kukiz) or positive (pro-platforms/PSL).
InPolska 11 | 1,821
28 Jun 2015 #8
What does it have to do with ... Poland? ;)
Once again, Levi completely disconnected from real world makes up a film ;(
johnny reb 23 | 4,489
28 Jun 2015 #9
And with this new conservative tide, will Poland assume a well deserved leadership in European Conservatives group?

Yes, the PiS will win in Poland because the Polish people have seen first hand what Socialism has done to
the rest of Europe.
Euorope is a one hell of a mess and deteriorating fast because of Socialism.
Now that the Liberals have to start feeding off themselves instead of 'others' because the 'others' money has
been squeezed out of them to pay for everyone else besides themselves.
Socialism works great until the other guys money runs out and this is exactly what is happening in western
europe. It is turning into one huge welfare union with no one left to pick up the tab.
Poland sees this, is aware of this and does not want it to happen in their country as they take care of their own people first as it should be in any country.

And being the Poles are not intimidated by being called a racist, bigot or regressive it is even more reason why PiS will win.
And have you noticed all the Liberal Socialists on this site living in Poland because the quality of live is better then what they left and now they want to bring to Poland what they moved away from.

The Danish elections are a wake up call.
Power to the Positive Pro PiS !
weeg
28 Jun 2015 #10
PiS are economic Socialists, right wing parties in the EU will have quite different views.
jon357 63 | 15,214
28 Jun 2015 #11
PiS will win in Poland because the Polish people have seen first hand what Socialism

Erm, you do realise that PiS are a Socialist party?

disconnected from real world

Exactly. As if an election in Denmark that 90% of Polish voters probably never noticed would have any effect either way.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
28 Jun 2015 #12
I bet that Levi and Johnny don't know that PiS's economic program is .... left wing (State's intervention, lowering retirement age, helping the poor, getting rid of "garbage employment contracts" ... ;).

PS: let's remember that neither Levi nor Johnny live in Poland ......

Neither Levi nor Johnny live in Poland and even in Europe so obviously they are completely ignorant about this part of the world
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
28 Jun 2015 #13
This far-right surge is scarcely surprising, you people! Smaller nations unused to a melting pot culture are being faced with a cross-cultural onslaught for which they are largely unprepared. Tolerant little Denmark???! Not on your life!

As I posted earlier, it's so easy to be tolerant, systematic, methodical and tidy when everything's going smoothly. Denmark was the world's hero nation after WW II, even sporting the rumor that their King Christian rode around on horseback wearing the Jewish Star to show solidarity for his Danish-Jewish subjects:-) A lie! We now see sadly that when tolerance is tested to the limit, "Christian" values often go right out the window- even in the fabled land of H.C. Andersen and Kaj Munk!!!!
InPolska 11 | 1,821
28 Jun 2015 #14
What does it have to do with ... Poland?

Thanks InPolska :)
jon357 63 | 15,214
28 Jun 2015 #15
This far-right surge

There isn't one.

We now see sadly that when tolerance is tested to the limit, "Christian" values often go right out the window- even in the fabled land of H.C. Andersen and Kaj Munk!!!!

Denmark has always has such specific politics and culture that you can't easily compare it with other places - especially with Polish politics.
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
28 Jun 2015 #16
Which country up to now had been accepting Polish migrants other than Denmark, Britain and Germany?? The latter still allows them passage. The fomer, no longer so easily, if many at all, what with the gathering quotas.

@jon,

No far- right surge?? Whaddya call Pia Kjaersgaard and her followers? Kumbaya, US-style liberals???
jon357 63 | 15,214
28 Jun 2015 #17
Which country up to had been accepting Polish migrant other than Denmark, Britain and Germany??

Every EU state.

The latter still allows them passage. The fomer, no longer so easily, if many at all, what with the gathering quotas.

The 'latter' (I assume you mean the last) and the former two impose no restrictions whatsoever on Polish citizens.

Whaddya call Pia Kjaersgaard and her followers?

A party who got less than a quarter of the vote in a state with PR.
FromLodz
28 Jun 2015 #18
"And being the Poles are not intimidated by being called a racist, bigot or regressive it is even more reason why PiS will win.

And have you noticed all the Liberal Socialists on this site living in Poland because the quality of live is better then what they left and now they want to bring to Poland what they moved away from.

The Danish elections are a wake up call.
Power to the Positive Pro PiS !"

That was probable the wisest comment that we saw on this thread.

Multiculturalism and stimulus to self-culture destruction works well until illegal immigrants start to burn cars and feel above the law.

The danish PP have very similar views to PiS

Both parties are not afraid to defend their own people, even with all the international left-wing media attacking them all the time.

Both parties don't put political correctness at first. They put THEIR PEOPLE (Poles and Danish) at first.

Hopefully other countries will follow soon the same way and the conservatism will grow strong in Europe.
Braun_
28 Jun 2015 #19
"What does it have to do with ... Poland? ;)"

Did you read the part where he states that DNP is ally of PiS in the European council?

Actually, did you at least read something?
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
28 Jun 2015 #20
Denmark since the election results, again, clearly illustrates the limits of multi-culturalism! There's a huge difference once more between, say, Saudi tourists visiting a small, homogeneous country like Denmark (even on a regular basis) and then a large amount of Saudis, Pakistanis or any culturally alien group blithely setting up shop, e.g. on Stroget in Copenhagen and turning someplace culturally and identifiably "Danish" for decades, even centuries, into downtown Abu Dabi!!
jon357 63 | 15,214
28 Jun 2015 #21
Denmark since the election results, again, clearly illustrates the limits of multi-culturalism!

The reasons they got that 24% share of the vote are complex - certainly not limited to immigration.

Saudis, Pakistanis

Not many of either there.
InPolska 11 | 1,821
28 Jun 2015 #22
24%! Since usually 50% (or more) don't bother to vote, it does not mean much
OP Levi 12 | 450
28 Jun 2015 #23
Interesting to realize that now with 3 UE countries already governed by conservatives (Poland, UK and Denmark), one of the main geopolitical forecasts is turning into reality:

A split of UE between two blocs: South european countries, bankrupted by socialist governments and drowned in huge illegal immigration crisis. (Italy, Greece, Spain and etc)

And a prosperous and conservative block lead by Poland, Denmark, maybe UK under Cameron and new europea emerging tigers like Romenia.

So we just need to wait few yeara more to see a powerful and bright Poland assuming a protagonist role in Europe under Duda command.
FlaglessPole 4 | 669
28 Jun 2015 #24
Interesting to realize that now with 3 UE countries already governed by conservatives (Poland, UK and Denmark), one of the main geopolitical forecasts is turning into reality:

as a Dane currently living in DK... anyways what's the point explaining anything.... just so you know DF is not even in government, Lars Løkke has just presented pure Venstre minority government, slim, only 17 ministers and very technocratic in its approach... yaaawn.. move over folks.. nothing's going on
Marsupial - | 886
29 Jun 2015 #25
So they dont have majority to vote anything new in you mean dk as they don't hold sufficient numbers?
FlaglessPole 4 | 669
29 Jun 2015 #26
On their own, no not at all. They will be supporting the government obviously as it is a part of the blue block but they will be for sure cooperating with Social Democrats, the largest party in DK, on a number of issues as they self ran on a very strong welfare state agenda (apart from being anti-emigrant), much like the red block.

*as they themselves - typo
Lyzko 25 | 7,139
17 Aug 2017 #27
<moved from>

You still have yet explain how come Denmark openly resisted among a broad swath of her population, whereas in Poland, Hitler was imminently successful in establishing a number of extermination and concentration camps!

If you're thinking neighboring location of Poland, you'd be right from a purely practical view point. However the Nazis were a persistent bunch and had they gotten the tacit cooperation of the Danish Gov't. at the time, they certainly would have built at least a few such sites in Denmark.

Uh-uh, spiritus! No soap. Your argument's been licked and you know it:-)
kaprys 3 | 2,354
17 Aug 2017 #28
How many Danish citizens were killed for helping Jews?
How many were sent to concentration camps?
How many were tortured?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,845
17 Aug 2017 #29
However the Nazis were a persistent bunch and had they gotten the tacit cooperation of the Danish Gov't.

do you have any historical, factual evidence for this? or is it just what you 'feel'?
You have already said it anyway, the numbers were relatively small.
jon357 63 | 15,214
17 Aug 2017 #30
You still have yet explain how come Denmark openly resisted among a broad swath of her population

In Poland, the penalty for helping a Jew was death for the whole family. In Denmark, the Nazis had to tread much more carefully.

As for the local population around Oswiecim, they had no choice about that the occupiers did there. None at all.


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