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Miloslaw 6 | 1,071    
13 Feb 2019  #2,191
. I have taken personal potentially threatening phone calls from two previous posters.

That is pretty horrible Doug and I do know some of the nasty history of this forum.
But if that was me.I would have walked away,licked my wounds and never posted on here again.
Why didn't you do that?

Well, at least I'm an idiot who doesn't collect private information about other members, you little creep.

Insults don't bother me at all,in fact they just confirm that I am right.
As for collecting private info,it is all out there on the web,if people are careless enough to leave that lying around,that is their problem.

And as for looking for it,that is mainly curiosity about the people,I have no intention of using it,unless they do the same first.....all states operate in the same way.....MAD!
dolnoslask 5 | 2,417    
13 Feb 2019  #2,192
The rest of you aren't malicious wankers.

Well ok thanks for that, I will go to bed now knowing that I won't end up with a horses head next to me when I wake up .

and on that note Good Night.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
13 Feb 2019  #2,194
Why didn't you do that?

There are good people on this forum, you know. There's only two genuinely bad apples here.
TheOther 5 | 3,704    
  13 Feb 2019  #2,195
Depends how long he held the stock.

Of course, and also how often you trade and in which tax bracket you are in. If you trade too often, they will consider you a day trader and you'll bleed.

There is a long list of posters here who are ding a dong and out to cause harm.

May I quote from a PM of mine: "Some PF members are true nut jobs."

And as for looking for it,that is mainly curiosity about the people

Come on. I've been on this forum for almost ten years now, and I've never felt the urge to look up people and file their information for later use. That's not normal behavior, and you know it.
Dougpol1 27 | 2,300    
13 Feb 2019  #2,196
.I would have walked away,licked my wounds and never posted on here again.

I live here. This has been my home for 27 years. I know far more about Poland than any MOD here would care to admit.. I would like to think this forum is about our mutual love of Poland, and how to improve life and living standards, or reciprocally, what western Europe can learn and take on from Polish culture.

This forum used to be huge. But Polonia ruined it.
Dirk diggler 8 | 3,876    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,197
maybe you made a whole heap of money and would rather there is no safety

That wouldn't be a problem if the government was bringing in turd worlders who pull out far more than they put in. If you're not being productive and contributing to the society you shouldn't be given the same priviledges as citizens.

including The Angels and

Hell's angels? One message to them a.d.i.o.s.

No. If you can't afford children - don't have them. I am not going to subsidise you. That is simple economics.

Tell that to just about every Muslim family living in Europe...

What is it with you people that you collect private information about other members? That's creepy.

Tell me about it .. it's sad that so many pf members do that... Making flashcards about strangers they've never met is not a sign of good mental health

Of course, and also how often you trade and in which tax bracket you are in.

There is no tax bracket has nothing to do with capital gains tax, at least not one I'm aware of. Also whether you hold a stock for an hour or 300 days you pay the same rate
Przelotnyptak1 - | 230    
14 Feb 2019  #2,198
Yeah,I just got one too.....

YOU Got one? You be the last person deserving warning. you deserve a smile, just for your nameMiloslaw is so close to my heart
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
14 Feb 2019  #2,199
Hell's angels? One message to them a.d.i.o.s.

Biker politics are weird. I've got a friend in Scotland who did some awful things as a biker, yet by day, he's a very polite and educated guy who wears a suit. By night, he was responsible for tying up some rival biker and tarring/feathering him in public. I asked why, and apparently it was something to do with patches being worn wrongly to insult his club.
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,582    
14 Feb 2019  #2,200
This forum used to be huge. But Polonia ruined it.

This is a good-faith question, not a bait or a provocation.
How did "Polonia" do it?
TheOther 5 | 3,704    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,201
There is no tax bracket has nothing to do with capital gains tax, at least not one I'm aware of.

Here's an IRS table from 2016. The numbers have probably changed by now.
fool.com/knowledge-center/tax-penalties-for-selling-stock.aspx

Also whether you hold a stock for an hour or 300 days you pay the same rate

That's not what I meant. E-Trade warns you for example that you can only trade every so often within a certain time period before the IRS considers you a day trader. Then the tax rate on capital gains goes through the roof.

Making flashcards about strangers...

Well, you saw the excuse that was made above. "Curiosity". Yeah, right.
Joker 1 | 829    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,202
Doug, got something very juicy and interesting about Johnny that I'll send to you in a PM.

Here you are admitting that you are tracking down and stalking people from this forum!

I've got a friend in Scotland

For someone complaining about ppl spending too much time on PF, why are you still posting at 1;15am? No work tomorrow for the troll?

You are well out of order and I question whether you should be part of this forum.

Agreed. Many decent posters have quit this forum because of this creep, yet the mods let it continue.
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,203
Here you are admitting that you are tracking down and stalking people from this forum!

Astonishingly easy as well. He just couldn't resist opening private messages, LOL!
Dirk diggler 8 | 3,876    
14 Feb 2019  #2,204
Yes I'm very familiar with MC culture. I am a biker but I prefer a clean cut look. Most the younger guys are that way too. He likely wore a bottom rocker (lowest patch worn on the back of a vest which states the name of a city state or country) that was claimed by a rival. The two most popular 1%0MCs in Poland are outlaws, which are from Chicago and control the Midwest and much of the east coast and hell's angels which control West coast with Mongols. There is also a well known Polish 1% club called road runners who are allied with devil's diciples that recently opened their first chapter in the USA, in Chicago of course due to the large pl community. We rode with them the last event that the Polish radio hosts which brings out several thousand poles.
Dougpol1 27 | 2,300    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,205
Many decent posters have quit this forum because of

Polonia.....and that's a fact.

The two most popular 1%0MCs in Poland are outlaws.......,

Top lads:)
Joker 1 | 829    
14 Feb 2019  #2,206
These expats have huge chips on their shoulders and are only happy when they are making other ppl miserable.
Dirk diggler 8 | 3,876    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,207
Doug, this forum is called Polish forums. There's almost as many poles living outside of Poland as in it. There's more poles in Chicago metro alone than warsaw. If it wasn't for polonia there'd be almost no Polish members here.
Dougpol1 27 | 2,300    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,208
These expats

We are not expats here. We are Brits/others who live her permanently - not corp employees. We are entitled. A damn sight more than you Yanks - who should NOT have the vote. As you don't pay fukk all.

Excuse the double negative :) :)
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,209
a bottom rocker (lowest patch worn on the back of a vest which states the name of a city state or country) that was claimed by a rival.

You've got me intrigued now - does it mean that only one club can claim a 'territory' then?

The two most popular 1%0MCs in Poland are outlaws, which are from Chicago and control the Midwest

How does it work in practice? I mean, if one guy from each club meets in some rural petrol station when they're both filling up their bikes, do they respect each other, or just blank each other, or are they going to get it on? I guess there's a whole complicated code of conduct there?
Dougpol1 27 | 2,300    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,210
If it wasn't for polonia there'd be almost no Polish members here.

You're right Dirk. So let's raise a toast and start some serious compromise, and petition the government!

there's a whole complicated code of conduct there?

Cough. They do NOT refuel in the same places Delph.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 230    
14 Feb 2019  #2,211
What is it with you people that you collect private information about other members? That's creepy.

Possibility of this ever happening was almost inexistent, grudgingly agree .Aghhh! tooth extraction feels better :))))
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,212
Cough. They do NOT refuel in the same places Delph.

Well, that's what I want to know! How do they know where to go and where not to go if they're out riding in the middle of nowhere?
Dirk diggler 8 | 3,876    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,213
does it mean that only one club can claim a 'territory' then?

Yes. And if another club rides through it without prior approval and doesn't take off their colors (vests/jackets) they'll be assaulted or worse. If say a club goes to a party or visit say a gravesite or rides through rival territory for some rally like bike week in Daytona they will have to first contact a president who will grant them sage passage provided that they remove their vests.

mean, if one guy from each club meets in some rural petrol station when they're both filling up their bikes

If it's an angel and a Mongols, angel and an outlaw they're going to fight right away 99% of the time. Generally 1%ers don't go after non1% clubs and others aka civilians, unless they're disrespected or someone starts with them first. But rival clubs are fair game at any time.

There's a lot of rules. Can't touch a members bike or God forbid sit on it. Women can't join. Many clubs don't accept people who aren't white. Women are shared unless they're identified as property of a member. When riding in a group no one gets split up meaning everyone goes the same speed and will run red lights to keep everyone together. Many require workouts and if not you pay a fine. Weekly meetings. There's a ton...

Fairly recently two rival clubs the bandidos, another large worldwide club like the ha and outlaws, and the cossacks, which is fairly large but aren't international, ran into each other at a restaurant. 10 people were killed and something like 200 arrested. They had to use city buses to take the dudes to jail for processing lol.
Joker 1 | 829    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,214
We are entitled.

What do you think youre entitled too? Does Poland owe you something?

Are you a Polish citizen or British expat "a person who is voluntarily absent from home or country;" :):)
delphiandomine 85 | 17,265    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,215
Cheers Dirk, I appreciate the explanations :) It's a fascinating world, though I can say that the bikers I met were incredibly polite and educated. What they do in their spare time, I'm not sure I want to know, but to me as a guy hanging out in a friend's pub, they were perfectly friendly and not at all aggressive. They had a... how to say, a presence about them, but they were nice guys who were happy to chat.

And if another club rides through it without prior approval and doesn't take off their colors (vests/jackets) they'll be assaulted or worse.

Wow... I mean, it makes sense, but it's interesting that it's so formal in that way. I suppose it keeps the peace though.

There's a lot of rules.

I'm reading about them now, and it's incredibly interesting how even people in hospitals are told to treat a biker's colours/patches with respect. It makes sense though - you wouldn't treat a Sikh's turban with disrespect, so it's the same with the biker's patches.
Dirk diggler 8 | 3,876    
14 Feb 2019  #2,216
Yeah bikers will never mess with people for no reason. Even if someone is being disrespectful or mocking them they'll first give that person a verbal warning. If a member got all drunk and started **** with people then the rest of the club would give him a violation (timed physical beating usually 3-5 people for 30-60 seconds, which feels like forever when youre getting your ass kicked)

but it's interesting that it's so formal in that way.

Yes there are many rules and considerations but the most important are first and foremost no snitching, you can't turn your back on a brother (member) and you must own an American made motorcycle with an engine over 750cc (1k cc in some clubs), so basically a Harley or a custom chopper.

Thing is, many people consider 1% to be criminal gangs. They really aren't though. Are there criminals? Yes, of course. Almost everyone has a full time job and really anything from fire fighter to real estate agent to small business owner (a ton i'd say probably half if not more of the members are

Here's an IRS table from 2016. The numbers have probably changed by now.

Well I know that Trump reduced the taxes for around 3 % and I believe added a new tax bracket.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 230    
14 Feb 2019  #2,217
This forum used to be huge. But Polonia ruined it.

It is deeper than that. to many critics, to many experts. Small insignificant mistake is immediately criticized little or none tolerance for different views

Year ago on different forum AOL I remember a man with limited knowledge, vocabulary of no more than a thousand words and a ton of common sense

constantly harassed by individuals with knowledge equal to his, but no common sense at all
it was mostly about spelling and punctuation Finally, he had enough and wrote a message "Now ...,,'1 you ...,,,''*** understand @@##%%!!> me *&^%> Biach' ///"
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,582    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,218
to many critics, to many experts. Small insignificant mistake is immediately criticized little or none tolerance for different views

This forum, like any other, is frustrating because disputes have no conclusions. It's like watching a courtroom drama without the verdict.
I have yet to see a "you are right" post addressed to the opponent. Or, "I didn't know that". The best you can get is silence. Which means: you win but there is no way I will admit it. There is something disturbing when men act like girls.

Same with retractions. To his credit, Milo did it for me and I appreciated it.
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,582    
  14 Feb 2019  #2,219
I don't like my white privilege. Here is what happened...
This morning, I was driving on Dundee in Arlington Heights and I noticed an SUV right behind me. It was black, clean and looked awesome. I was less impressed when I noticed letter M on the license plate. Sure enough I was pulled over. With that white privilege in my DNA, I turned into the first side street, stopped, got my license out, rolled the window down, hands on the steering wheel and waited. When the cop walked up and asked for my DL, I handed it to him and asked what stupid thing I did today. It was the belt.

Before he went to his car, he said that I can now roll the window up "to stay warm". Patronizing sob. In two minutes or so he and my DL are back. Being a victim of my white upbringing, I said "thanks for reminding me about that belt", rolled up the window and was on my way. How damn boring. No "step outside". No body search. No taser. No gun in my face. Nothing. Like I was nobody and without my ethnic pride. Next time, I will tell this dumb cop what a racist pig he is before he says a word.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,660    
14 Feb 2019  #2,220
I have yet to see a "you are right" post addressed to the opponent

Ditto! :)


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