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Hungarian Jobbik on the path of collision with Poland`s interests. Orban?


Crow 144 | 8,676
29 Jan 2014 #1
jobbik

Stop Jobbik

21 January 2014
progressonline.org.uk/2014/01/21/stop-jobbik

Jobbik is the largest and most successful fascist party in Europe. It has three out of 22 Hungarian seats in the European parliament and it has 47 seats in the Hungarian parliament.

Its about one fascist political party that as its main goal has Greater Hungary what in its final extent means that Jobbik has territorial pretensions on at least two sovereign Slavic countries- Slovakia and Serbia. So, does it mean that with such an ideas Jobbik threatening vital Polish interests in the region?
Harry
29 Jan 2014 #2
A threat?! Poland's neo-Nazi morons view jobbik as brothers in arms. That's why Hungarians formed the largest foreign contingent at the neo-Nazi march on 11 November. So Jobbik oppose Serbs, so what? You forget that Poles have fought against Serbs in all the wars Serbia has fought for generations.
Marek11111 9 | 816
29 Jan 2014 #3
Hungarian Jobbik on the path of collision with Poland`s interests ?
not Polish interest maybe with E.U. interests
choff5507 - | 1
30 Jan 2014 #4
The labeling of any group as "fascist" is enough to make you take notice. They will throw terms around terms like "nazi" and others to automatically shut your ears to any ideas they might have to make their country better. When i hear anyone call anyone a "fascist" they are already discredited in my mind.
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #5
The labeling of any group as "fascist" is enough to make you take notice.

In the case of Jobbik, the description fits perfectly. They don't deny that.
smurf 39 | 1,981
30 Jan 2014 #6
Hahaha, look at their stupid uniforms, what a bunch of dorks.
TheStranger - | 34
30 Jan 2014 #7
Crow!
POLAND DOES NOT HAVE THEIR OWN POLITICAL INTERESTS!!
Polish foreign policy is made in Berlin!
You should know that!
OP Crow 144 | 8,676
30 Jan 2014 #8
POLAND DOES NOT HAVE THEIR OWN POLITICAL INTERESTS!

i know that! you think that i don`t know that!?
but maybe not only in Berlin! Poland is also loved in Britain, France, USA! They all care!

Anyway, this is why we needs to talk

Jobbik really follow steps of the Adolf Hitler when it comes to Fascist-Islamic alliance. There are common interests

Jobbik chairman wants strategic alliance with Turkey

by Kyle Rogers

Jobbik Chairman in Turkey to promote the idea of a Turkish-Hungarian strategic alliance

Jobbik's chairman clearly considers Hungary to be Eurasian. He even supports Turanism, which is a Eurasian version of Aryanism. Aryan is a synonym for Indo-European. Aryanism romanticizes the hypothetical founders of the Indo-European languages family, which are called "Aryans." Turanism romanticizes the hypothetical founders of the Uralic and Altaic languages family, which they call the "Turans."
TheStranger - | 34
30 Jan 2014 #9
i know that! you think that i don`t know that!?

yeah, sometimes i have the feeling that you're dreaming too much...
And no, Britain, USA, France ... does not "love" Poland - since it became a lover of Germany.

Do you really thought that, ...ermm... let's say... our polish.... political "Elite" ;)... have some ambitions of their own?
No, not really.

Hahaha, look at their stupid uniforms, what a bunch of dorks

So you think that the Braunhemden (i hope you know who i mean) were funny too?
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #10
So you think that the Braunhemden (i hope you know who i mean) were funny too?

Most of them were comical individuals - absolutely pathetic inadequates. But not enough people stood up against them. Nowadays we know better which is why clowns like Jobbik will remain on the fringe.
OP Crow 144 | 8,676
30 Jan 2014 #11
Other Slavs needs Poland.
TheStranger - | 34
30 Jan 2014 #12
Most of them were comical individuals - absolutely pathetic inadequates. But not enough people stood up against them.

You're right - Hitler and his "friends" were really funny, no, really - there were. The problem was that many people took them very seriously!

Nowadays we know better which is why clowns like Jobbik will remain on the fringe.

I don't think so.
Harry
30 Jan 2014 #13
Hitler and his "friends" were really funny, no, really - there were. The problem was that many people took them very seriously!

The problem was that a lot of people thought that they could control the Nazis and use the Nazis to further their own aims: they were wrong.

I don't think so.

They certainly won't get any power.
TheStranger - | 34
30 Jan 2014 #14
Other Slavs needs Poland.

Yes, I realized, that you as an EX-Yugoslav, like to make jokes about Poland - like all these EX-Yugoslaves i met before in the past.
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #15
The problem was that many people took them very seriously!

A mistake that will not be repeated.

I don't think so.

The opposition to them is huge and can't be crushed by neo-Fascists as easily as the 1930s Fascists suppressed their opponents. Nor will the EU (who Hungary as a recent member can not afford to upset) hesitate to impose sanctions - this has been considered already due to that dreadful Viktor Orban.
OP Crow 144 | 8,676
30 Jan 2014 #16
Yes, I realized, that you as an EX-Yugoslav, like to make jokes about Poland - like all these EX-Yugoslaves i met before in the past.

what you talking about? i never heard a single joke about Poland in my country. My people don`t produce jokes on the account of Poles
smurf 39 | 1,981
30 Jan 2014 #17
Braunhemden

never heard of it, but if you mean the Nazi/SS uniforms then no they weren't funny, they were kinda scary looking.

The loons in the pics in the OP are wearing waistcoats. How can anyone take someone wearing a waistcoat seriously? ^_^
OP Crow 144 | 8,676
30 Jan 2014 #18
Jobbik to revive old Nazi-Islamic alliance. Three Slavic countries are main target: Slovakia, Ukraine and Serbia.

An Ostracized Hungarian Party Embraces Iran

by Abraham H. Foxman
adl.org/press-center/c/an-ostracized-hungarian-party-embraces-iran.html

Jobbik's goals are to annex parts of Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine and Serbia where ethnic Hungarian minorities live, to persecute Hungary's Roma minority, and to promote anti-Semitism.

Iran's goals are to spread its radical Islamic ideology, to dominate the Middle East, and to promote anti-Semitism.

This nexus emits a faint echo of the alliance between the Nazis and Palestinian Arab leaders seven decades ago.

Harry
30 Jan 2014 #19
The loons in the pics in the OP are wearing waistcoats. How can anyone take someone wearing a waistcoat seriously? ^_

Scary bunch the Hungarian master race:

Hungarian Guard
Wroclaw Boy
30 Jan 2014 #20
never heard of it, but if you mean the Nazi/SS uniforms then no they weren't funny, they were kinda scary looking.

Only because of there association, as standard military uniform i think they were one of the best. Designed and manufactured by Hugo Boss, didn't you know? Nice clothing contract that.....
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #21
but if you mean the Nazi/SS uniforms then no they weren't funny

They were something different. The SS wore those black uniforms (designed by the way by Hugo Boss). The Braunhemden, or brownshirts were, for the first decade anyway, rather scruffy and a bit like the clowns in the photo. It wasn't until their party started to get funds that they could smarten themselves up a bit. Never again.
TheStranger - | 34
30 Jan 2014 #22
what you talking about? i never heard a single joke about Poland in my country. My people don`t produce jokes on the account of Poles

I'm talking about you and your weird sence of humor. You know I always asked myself - what ist this all Commonwealth-s.. and slavic union and shall Poland dominate the world about. I thought you are a bit ... weird.

But now i know it: because i remembered the jokes that polish jokes were told the Ex-Yugoslavians "mates" - so yeah.
I think this is all about your subtile sence of Yugoslavian Humour.
smurf 39 | 1,981
30 Jan 2014 #23
Hugo Boss

aye, knew that. And wasn't it IBM that made the cards for tracking the movement of Jewish citizens.
I think Henry Ford had something to do with them too.

The Braunhemden, or brownshirts were

Ah I see, OK, now I obviously know who was meant, I didn't know the German name.
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #24
I think Henry Ford had something to do with them too.

He supported them for a while, and after the US entered the war his factories there were held in a sort of blind trust for him rather than just seized. But that was then and one aspect of globalisation (and the power of disinvestment) is that it would be much harder for anything like that to happen in the developed world. Hungary could not survive (and Hungarians nowadays would not put up with) the kind of slump and isolation that would come.
OP Crow 144 | 8,676
30 Jan 2014 #25
Scary bunch the Hungarian master race:

especially the first one on the pic. Obviously sexually frustrated or maybe sexually abused

I think this is all about your subtile sence of Yugoslavian Humour.

you are wrong.

and, i never said that would Poland dominate world. i said that would Poland dominate Europe. Why that sound as joke to you? Back in past, during Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Poland truly dominated Europe
jon357 63 | 15,526
30 Jan 2014 #26
Obviously sexually frustrated or maybe sexually abused

Nah. He looks like he might steal panties off washing lines though.

When you look at organised nationalists like Jobbik, their various Polish equivalents, the French FN, the B*P in Britain etc, you'll find a whole lot of skeletons in their members' closets.
Harry
30 Jan 2014 #27
If you look in closets, you'll find more than a few of the members of those organisations.
flfl
31 Jan 2014 #28
Hungary is getting done by it's leaders and Jobbik saw the chance to climb up by this situation.

Most of their supporters are come from East Hungary where the unemployment rate are quite high and a lot of Gypsies living .

The have had a half military units which took control of some places where Gypsies thread Hungarian residents.

Despite of the fact that they are in the Hungarian Parliament seems to weighless which could be that Fidesz ( Hungarian Right) rule over there with it's 75% plurality.

They are against any race which is not white but in daily life you would not say that you can feel they power on the street.

Of course if things goes bad it's the fault of the Jews or Muslims or both of them with mixed a little bit of Gypsy blood with gay predisposition:)

You may think that in Poland won't happen the same but if you just have a look in Wroclaw there are more and more Indians and Muslims around because big organizations bring them here by job.

We do have here few as well @ work, they took their families as well, most of them got 3 kids , not open for new things ,closed community.

We having oportunites to learn Polish language @work here which is great , they were also offered by it but all of them refused.

You may go to Netherlands they do act the same way over there .
TheStranger - | 34
31 Jan 2014 #29
Most of them were comical individuals - absolutely pathetic inadequates.

They certainly won't get any power

If that's true, why were they elected in their countries in the first place?
kkkk
1 Feb 2014 #30
TheStranger

The weren't elected in first place but 3rd back in 2010.

Cheers from a Hungarian.

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